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  • feather
    Shanghai ooompa loompa
    • Jul 2004
    • 20894

    Planet Earth: Eats shit, shits oil

    This is pretty cool if they can get it to work commercially.
    “Ten years ago I could never have imagined I’d be doing this,” says Greg Pal, 33, a former software executive, as he squints into the late afternoon Californian sun. “I mean, this is essentially agriculture, right? But the people I talk to – especially the ones coming out of business school – this is the one hot area everyone wants to get into.”

    He means bugs. To be more precise: the genetic alteration of bugs – very, very small ones – so that when they feed on agricultural waste such as woodchips or wheat straw, they do something extraordinary. They excrete crude oil.

    Unbelievably, this is not science fiction. Mr Pal holds up a small beaker of bug excretion that could, theoretically, be poured into the tank of the giant Lexus SUV next to us. Not that Mr Pal is willing to risk it just yet. He gives it a month before the first vehicle is filled up on what he calls “renewable petroleum”. After that, he grins, “it’s a brave new world”.

    Mr Pal is a senior director of LS9, one of several companies in or near Silicon Valley that have spurned traditional high-tech activities such as software and networking and embarked instead on an extraordinary race to make $140-a-barrel oil (£70) from Saudi Arabia obsolete. “All of us here – everyone in this company and in this industry, are aware of the urgency,” Mr Pal says.

    What is most remarkable about what they are doing is that instead of trying to reengineer the global economy – as is required, for example, for the use of hydrogen fuel – they are trying to make a product that is interchangeable with oil. The company claims that this “Oil 2.0” will not only be renewable but also carbon negative – meaning that the carbon it emits will be less than that sucked from the atmosphere by the raw materials from which it is made.

    LS9 has already convinced one oil industry veteran of its plan: Bob Walsh, 50, who now serves as the firm’s president after a 26-year career at Shell, most recently running European supply operations in London. “How many times in your life do you get the opportunity to grow a multi-billion-dollar company?” he asks. It is a bold statement from a man who works in a glorified cubicle in a San Francisco industrial estate for a company that describes itself as being “prerevenue”.

    Inside LS9’s cluttered laboratory – funded by $20 million of start-up capital from investors including Vinod Khosla, the Indian-American entrepreneur who co-founded Sun Micro-systems – Mr Pal explains that LS9’s bugs are single-cell organisms, each a fraction of a billionth the size of an ant. They start out as industrial yeast or nonpathogenic strains of E. coli, but LS9 modifies them by custom-de-signing their DNA. “Five to seven years ago, that process would have taken months and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars,” he says. “Now it can take weeks and cost maybe $20,000.”

    Because crude oil (which can be refined into other products, such as petroleum or jet fuel) is only a few molecular stages removed from the fatty acids normally excreted by yeast or E. coli during fermentation, it does not take much fiddling to get the desired result.

    For fermentation to take place you need raw material, or feedstock, as it is known in the biofuels industry. Anything will do as long as it can be broken down into sugars, with the byproduct ideally burnt to produce electricity to run the plant.

    The company is not interested in using corn as feedstock, given the much-publicised problems created by using food crops for fuel, such as the tortilla inflation that recently caused food riots in Mexico City. Instead, different types of agricultural waste will be used according to whatever makes sense for the local climate and economy: wheat straw in California, for example, or woodchips in the South.

    Using genetically modified bugs for fermentation is essentially the same as using natural bacteria to produce ethanol, although the energy-intensive final process of distillation is virtually eliminated because the bugs excrete a substance that is almost pump-ready.

    The closest that LS9 has come to mass production is a 1,000-litre fermenting machine, which looks like a large stainless-steel jar, next to a wardrobe-sized computer connected by a tangle of cables and tubes. It has not yet been plugged in. The machine produces the equivalent of one barrel a week and takes up 40 sq ft of floor space.

    However, to substitute America’s weekly oil consumption of 143 million barrels, you would need a facility that covered about 205 square miles, an area roughly the size of Chicago.

    That is the main problem: although LS9 can produce its bug fuel in laboratory beakers, it has no idea whether it will be able produce the same results on a nationwide or even global scale.

    “Our plan is to have a demonstration-scale plant operational by 2010 and, in parallel, we’ll be working on the design and construction of a commercial-scale facility to open in 2011,” says Mr Pal, adding that if LS9 used Brazilian sugar cane as its feedstock, its fuel would probably cost about $50 a barrel.

    Are Americans ready to be putting genetically modified bug excretion in their cars? “It’s not the same as with food,” Mr Pal says. “We’re putting these bacteria in a very isolated container: their entire universe is in that tank. When we’re done with them, they’re destroyed.”

    Besides, he says, there is greater good being served. “I have two children, and climate change is something that they are going to face. The energy crisis is something that they are going to face. We have a collective responsibility to do this.”

    i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

    Originally posted by Hoff
    a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
    Originally posted by m1sT3rL
    Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

    I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.
  • Aleks_B
    Gold Gabber
    • Nov 2006
    • 758

    #2
    Re: Planet Earth: Eats shit, shits oil

    i have a feeling that, although this sounds like a great innovation, that it will not take off. My instinct is that there will alot of problems with trying to modify the insects. That would be problematic, just from my experience with bio-technology. If these guys can get the insects to perform this task without modification then maybe i would see this taking off.
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    • feather
      Shanghai ooompa loompa
      • Jul 2004
      • 20894

      #3
      Re: Planet Earth: Eats shit, shits oil

      The bugs are already modified ... they've produced almost-ready oil ... problem is scaling up the process to make it commercially feasible.
      However, to substitute America’s weekly oil consumption of 143 million barrels, you would need a facility that covered about 205 square miles, an area roughly the size of Chicago.
      Maybe if they deforested and flattened some land to build that plant

      i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

      Originally posted by Hoff
      a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
      Originally posted by m1sT3rL
      Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

      I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.

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      • unkownartist
        Banned
        • Nov 2005
        • 4146

        #4
        Re: Planet Earth: Eats shit, shits oil

        oh great all we need now is 10 billion billion billion bugs supplying the worlds car industry

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        • FM
          Wooooooo!
          • Jun 2004
          • 5361

          #5
          Re: Planet Earth: Eats shit, shits oil

          the idea is grand and stuff like this is out there...one just has to get the idea and figure it out to make it happen...

          But, even if, say, 25% were replaced for starters...that's a viable savings right there.
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          • unkownartist
            Banned
            • Nov 2005
            • 4146

            #6
            Re: Planet Earth: Eats shit, shits oil

            lol think of the space needed to house enough bugs and the food to feed them to be able to fill just one tank of petrol or gas as u call it in the states....lmao the idea's completely fucking crazy m8....the guys just struck a gold mine though because when it oil runs out the price of it will shoot up to about a trillion times that of the price of gold and guess who will unfortunately cash in

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            • Dhar_2
              meat and potatoes
              • Jun 2004
              • 18916

              #7
              Re: Planet Earth: Eats shit, shits oil

              crazy!

              not too keen on all this genetic modification.

              something needs to be done, but i dont think this is the way!

              we need to find alternative fuel sources. this is too much like playing god and messing about with the natural order.

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              • feather
                Shanghai ooompa loompa
                • Jul 2004
                • 20894

                #8
                Re: Planet Earth: Eats shit, shits oil

                Dude you drivel enough shit to solve our energy needs. If you were a bug.

                i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

                Originally posted by Hoff
                a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
                Originally posted by m1sT3rL
                Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

                I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.

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                • poults
                  Platinum Poster
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1987

                  #9
                  Re: Planet Earth: Eats shit, shits oil

                  ^^ Lol.
                  Originally posted by Hoff

                  ejejejejejejejejeje!!!!! you always delivering some good dogs shits !!! thankyou

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                  • Dhar_2
                    meat and potatoes
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 18916

                    #10
                    Re: Planet Earth: Eats shit, shits oil

                    Originally posted by feather
                    Dude you drivel enough shit to solve our energy needs. If you were a bug.
                    thanks!!

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                    • Garrick
                      DUDERZ get a life!!!
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 6764

                      #11
                      Re: Planet Earth: Eats shit, shits oil

                      i think it is a very clever idea although it is very experimental still. stage a plan for mass production and then we could see how good a concept this really is. very creative and i'd be interested to read into it more once they progress a little.
                      Should I fuck you at that not until the ass, inject then tremendously hard bumschen and to the termination in the eyes yes?

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