Gaddafi Fires Back at Norway

[stephen028]

Re: Gaddafi Fires Back at Norway

wow. nice response. i probably shouldn't justify you with any response....but....he attacked both muslims and leftists...regarding enablers and perpetrators, that just shows how bias and jaded your thinking is, seeing as how these are subjective definitions, not to mention the hatred and vitriol that spewed from you from someone simply stating their side, that tells me much and more, which also really goes to the heart of the issue. this old man has a right to believe what he wants as long as it is not intolerance to other ideas. if the police bulletin was regarding muslims or leftists mobilizing, do you really think he would have this response? the reality is his right-wing extremists are just as much a threat as muslim and left-wing extremists, and he and you just can't seem to come to grips with that. it seems to me that as long as you convince yourself that you represent the "real" america, you are unable to believe the fact that you could be in the wrong.
lastly regarding Norway, if you look at this guys(shooter) ideals, you'll find they are scarily similiar to what the police were warning about, although i'm sure it'll be written off as some "leftist" conspiracy(sigh).
Norway has one of the best economies in the world, there is much we can learn from them. This shooter was opposed to the ruling parties "socialist" agenda.
Sorry if i view this mans take on things as fighting perceived extremism with definite extremism. That shit don't work with me on either side.
you have a right to your views, Mariner, but if yoou can't back them with anything better than insults, you look weak and silly.

[clintlove]

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old man afraid of change. shocking.

Is this the kind of change you want? Marxism, socialism, communism?

[stephen028]

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isms don't scare me. seems to me capitalism isn't working out so hot unless your on the upper tier. its about balance. take the best of each. there is no reason for an advanced nation to be indoctrinated on one mehod of goverment. look at China. it's "communist", yet there seems to be plenty of free market factors running their economy. the world is becoming more globally connected, this is a reality, our politics will reflect this one way or another.

[88Mariner]

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isms don't scare me. seems to me capitalism isn't working out so hot unless your on the upper tier. its about balance. take the best of each. there is no reason for an advanced nation to be indoctrinated on one mehod of goverment. look at China. it's "communist", yet there seems to be plenty of free market factors running their economy. the world is becoming more globally connected, this is a reality, our politics will reflect this one way or another.

yeah, look at all those norwegians SCARED of capitalism.


give ME. A. FUCKING. BREAK.


stupid jackass

[88Mariner]

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wow. nice response. i probably shouldn't justify you with any response....but....he attacked both muslims and leftists...p

no. he attacked the political HQ of a rotten political party AND he attacked the Nazi-Youth Equivalent of that party....at their summer propoganda camp.

regarding enablers and perpetrators, that just shows how bias and jaded your thinking is,

yes, i'm biased and jaded because I don't fucking censor myself as you do. i'm surprised you even commented without getting permission from a higher-up.

seeing as how these are subjective definitions

you're a lefty. I understand. But as much as you try to call everything 'subjective', it's not true. Red is not green. Dead is not alive. And no amount of cognitive dissonance changes that.

not to mention the hatred and vitriol that spewed from you

i haven't even warmed up on you.


[quote]from someone simply stating their side, that tells me much and more, which also really goes to the heart of the issue. [quote]

"here's me, being a sensible statist"

this old man has a right to believe what he wants

i bet that took so much willpower to write that. because it's clear you think otherwise.

as long as it is not intolerance to other ideas.

Case.

In.

Fucking.

Point.

"think what you want....so long as it fits my Marxist Marching Orders"

if the police bulletin was regarding muslims or leftists mobilizing, do you really think he would have this response?

well let's see, the Norwegian left promotes muslim immigration to build a stronger voting bloc.....let me think....lulidunno!

the reality is his right-wing extremists are just as much a threat as muslim and left-wing extremists

ah yes. it's all the same, right?

you call my views hateful and vitriolic....and you're now telling me...'oh it's just the same....just the same' (said in Michael Jackson's voice)

lol.

and he and you just can't seem to come to grips with that.

no, i've certainly come to grips with how leftists destroy nations from inside out.

it seems to me that as long as you convince yourself that you represent the "real" america

let's see, nowhere in this thread did i say i represent the 'real' America, therefore you're simply quoting whatever groupthink meeting minutes you were issued because you can't fucking respond without raising strawmen.

Ah yes, In your silly little mind, the 'real' American out there is totally for the....cultural elimination of American in favor of something more exotic.

you are unable to believe the fact that you could be in the wrong.

I'm an empiricist. Reality defines everything. Not my emotions. Not some shitty little red book. not from popular opinion. and certainly not because i'm intimidated into adhering to some PC viewpoint.



[quote]lastly regarding Norway, if you look at this guys(shooter) ideals, you'll find they are scarily similiar to what the police were warning about, although i'm sure it'll be written off as some "leftist" conspiracy(sigh).[q/uote]

post links to someone calling this a leftist conspiracy.

otherwise, prove to me you're just not talking out your ass lol

Norway has one of the best economies in the world, there is much we can learn from them.

Relevancy?


oh wait, your'e trying to say that, since they have one of the best economies in the world...they also do other things right....like immigration.

This shooter was opposed to the ruling parties "socialist" agenda.

yeah, duh. oh wait, he also attacked muslims? but it's...the socialist agenda?

Sorry if i view this mans take on things as fighting perceived extremism with definite extremism. That shit don't work with me on either side.
you have a right to your views, Mariner, but if yoou can't back them with anything better than insults, you look weak and silly.

1. Prove to me that he attacked Muslims.
2. Prove to me that he attacked anyone else outside of that elitist political party
3. you can't prove jack shit.
4. I'm damn sure you'll struggle finding a newspaper calling this a leftist conspiracy.

[88Mariner]

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Is this the kind of change you want? Marxism, socialism, communism?

You're right, but you're wrong.

Let me explain.

All Stephen is doing is hiding behind Muslims here. They are merely a proxy to the very war that is happening between Western Civ and Marxism. It is immaterial whether this douchebag gunman hated muslims, blacks, jews, chinese, arabs...whatever.

He focused his guns on, from what I can tell, mostly privileged white teens with political connections to the ruling party. It was not Muslims, nor blacks, nor jews, nor Chinese, nor arabs, nor any other group. It was an attack on the ideas and the people beholden to them.

Stephen wants this to be an attack on Islam, but that just isn't the case.

Let me be clearer: this involves Islam, but the gunman was at least intelligent enough (contrary to the 'real' Amurrcan's who watch fox news) to see the forest from the trees...that the real problem was the political elite of Norway....not those who entered the country and refused to assimilate.

Indeed, the very threat posed against the Marxism that exists in Europe today is that of cultural and national identity. Therefore, the goal the Marxists is to eliminate these native cultures, and, down the road, eliminate these national identities (which are much harder to break....but given the way the European Union governs, wont' be long until that is attacked forcefully).

For them, Norway can no longer exist as Norway any longer. Belgium can no longer be Belgium any longer.

The English must be re-trained to think of themselves not as English, but as Europeans and Global Citizens.

And, at some point, France will cease to be France (I predict Paris and Berlin to be the last capitals to succumb to this cultural engineering).

Demography is, as time has honored, the fate of a country. And it is, as the elite understand, a tool to be implemented to secure the future.

[chunky]

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Ok that's beginning to get more than a little c-r-e-e-p-y

Its more than creepy, touching old men's cocks is disgusting, but I suppose he has to have a hobby

[clintlove]

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isms don't scare me. seems to me capitalism isn't working out so hot unless your on the upper tier. its about balance. take the best of each. there is no reason for an advanced nation to be indoctrinated on one mehod of goverment. look at China. it's "communist", yet there seems to be plenty of free market factors running their economy. the world is becoming more globally connected, this is a reality, our politics will reflect this one way or another.

WOW! Well it is certainly people such as yourself who will enable this to take place. So you want America's government to be like China's? Do you understand the freedoms you have as a citizen of this capitalist country? Do you understand your constitutional rights?

[dig72]

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msnbc.com is reporting that the gunman was a right wing christian extremist. Is this a coincidence? I saw this video for the first time today shortly after reading the story on the views of the Norway gunman. Listen at 1:15...

He sits there shamelessly and states, "The realities of Islam and the danger that Islampresents to America."

The guy is a farking stooge and knows all too well who/what is causing the rot of his nation, but refuses to acknowledge it publicly.

[clintlove]

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The guy is a farking stooge and knows all too well who/what is causing the rot of his nation, but refuses to acknowledge it publicly.

And what might that be?

[stephen028]

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"but the gunman was at least intelligent enough .. to see the forest from the trees...that the real problem was the political elite of Norway....not those who entered the country and refused to assimilate. "

thats all i needed. i have no further interest in ANYTHING you have to say.

[trick12]

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runningman, u chose the thread title too early

[trick12]

Re: Gaddafi Fires Back at Norway

He sits there shamelessly and states, "The realities of Islam and the danger that Islampresents to America."

The guy is a farking stooge and knows all too well who/what is causing the rot of his nation, but refuses to acknowledge it publicly.

what else would you expect!, to say islam is good and the threats are from christians, had to bring islam in there someway.

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Breivik, who has been charged in the bombing and mass shooting, believed the terror attacks were "horrible," but "in his head [they were] necessary," he told Norwegian broadcaster TV2. Breivik expressed a wish to give an explanation for his deeds during court hearings that are to start on Monday.

Several hours before the explosion of the car bomb in downtown Oslo, a manifesto and a video were posted by Breivik on the web.

"We confirm that some information appeared on the internet," Einar Aas, head of the Oslo Police’s organized crime department, told Norway's TV2 channel.

The video contains the name "Andrew Berwick" and is entitled "2083 – A European Declaration of Independence." In it, the author lashed put at multiculturalism and Muslim immigration. The accompanying document, which is more than 1,500 pages long, contains Breivik’s extreme anti-Muslim political views and a detailed description of the attacks.

Breivik confessed to publishing the material.

While only one suspect has been arrested, the Norwegian police have not ruled out the possibility someone else may have been involved in the explosion in Oslo and the shooting on Utoya Island.

http://rt.com/news/breivik-utoya-shooting-arrest/

[stephen028]

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i just realized mariner, you dont even know how to read correctly. in reference to going after muslims, i was referring to the old man in the video, not the shooter, you ass. u thoughtfully put all that time into responding, just to look the foo. now that is funny.