The redistribution of wealth

[vinnie97]

Re: The redistribution of wealth

Yes, it's asinine, sickening and further stokes the fires of class warfare. Those who voted for the current occupier because they wanted some from his "stash" are just as sick as those who circumvent their tax duties so as to not pay their fair share.

[unrecogniseduser]

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Ooh, Ooh... Just throwing this out there. What if people on any type of government assistance, excluding the disabled, were not allowed to vote? If you are getting government assistance that pays for you to live, who are you going to vote for? The candidate that will continue to give you or increase that assistance. It's a locked in vote for that candidate.

silly, lets stop rich people voting because they will vote republican if they promise continued tax breaks to the rich. works both ways.

[unrecogniseduser]

Re: The redistribution of wealth

Yes, it's asinine, sickening and further stokes the fires of class warfare. Those who voted for the current occupier because they wanted some from his "stash" are just as sick as those who circumvent their tax duties so as to not pay their fair share.

if people don't vote in their own self interest then what do they vote for?

[clintlove]

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Point taken. However, there are far less "rich" people than there are people on some type of government assistance. This may surprise alot of folks, but not all "rich" people are republicans either.

Speaking of rich, how much money does a family need to take in annually to be considered rich in ya'lls opinion. At the moment, the Obama administration is saying $250,000. Do you agree with that?

[unrecogniseduser]

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imo 250 k is really really good money. Noone in the history of my family has had a salary like that i can guarantee you. I thought we were well off when i was getting 55, but anyway it will be calculated on some statistics or other and then rounded to a the nearest 50 K or so. I haven't been following it all really since we moved away.

[floridaorange]

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This may surprise alot of folks, but not all "rich" people are republicans either.

"Rich State, Poor State, Red State, Blue State: What's the Matter with Connecticut?"

This book explains that the rich states vote democrat but in the poorer states the rich vote republican. In the book the author explains that this is because in the poorer states partisanship divides people more than in wealthier states.

[unrecogniseduser]

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not all "rich" people are republicans either.

certainly not

[vinnie97]

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"Rich State, Poor State, Red State, Blue State: What's the Matter with Connecticut?"

This book explains that the rich states vote democrat but in the poorer states the rich vote republican. In the book the author explains that this is because in the poorer states partisanship divides people more than in wealthier states.

So why are liberal havens like NY, Chicago, LA and Detroit all in various states of bankruptcy (aside from international banker looting)? You are counting these metropolises as being in rich states, are you not?

Smells like a book of generalizations.

Unrecogniseduser, the problem comes when a politician makes promises out of thin air to these people who have been reliant upon government handouts all their lives. The trough is dry.

[floridaorange]

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Smells like a book of generalizations.
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Forgive me sir but I am going to listen to the guy who's a Statistician and professor of statistics and political science and director of the Applied Statistics Center at Columbia University. Who also happens to have a mathematics and physics SB degree from MIT and a PhD in statistics from Harvard. Mr. Andrew Gelman only has 3 Outstanding Statistical Application awards from the American Statistical Assoc.

Oh and is also an elected fellow of the American Statistical Assoc and the Institute of Mathematical Statistics.

[clintlove]

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Is he qualified?

[unrecogniseduser]

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yeah, sounds like a hack to me

[Shpira]

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Point taken. However, there are far less "rich" people than there are people on some type of government assistance. This may surprise alot of folks, but not all "rich" people are republicans either.

Speaking of rich, how much money does a family need to take in annually to be considered rich in ya'lls opinion. At the moment, the Obama administration is saying $250,000. Do you agree with that?

i think 250K for a family income is not enough to be considered "Rich" these days...250 USD is only 153K GBP...split between two is 76,5K meaning after tax each earner get s 50K per year which is just over 4K a month...with that you got lets say 2 kids to raise...if you want private schooling that's another 15k - 20K x 2 per year...so you are on 30 - 35K each with that you need to buy food, petrol and pay mortgage...not rich imo....at all...if you are on 250K usd each...then maybe you can be seen as "rich" although...

[floridaorange]

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^True. I think Senator McCain's definition of rich was having $5 million in the bank back in 2008.

[vinnie97]

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Forgive me sir but I am going to listen to the guy who's a Statistician and professor of statistics and political science and director of the Applied Statistics Center at Columbia University. Who also happens to have a mathematics and physics SB degree from MIT and a PhD in statistics from Harvard. Mr. Andrew Gelman only has 3 Outstanding Statistical Application awards from the American Statistical Assoc.

Oh and is also an elected fellow of the American Statistical Assoc and the Institute of Mathematical Statistics.

Listen away. You know what they say about statistics. This reality doesn't change because one is highly educated. I am tired of pseudo-intellectuals and the intelligentsia whose word you seem to take as a matter-of-fact, so please put me out of my misery for daring to be a skeptic.

[res0nat0r]

Re: The redistribution of wealth

It's this type of thinking that are getting kids sick again from diseases which vaccines have for the most part done away with a long time ago. Parents thinking because they have google and a college degree in history makes them more of an expert than people with a formal education which they've spent their entire life on...