sad day in america, does anyone think the govt played a part???

[floridaorange]

Re: sad day in america, does anyone think the govt played a part???

oh ffs

[bobjuice]

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[res0nat0r]

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The reason Resonator is coming off as arrogant, pompous and small minded is as clear as the sky is blue. He's an American.

Americans have a belief and value system that's bred into them from an early age. Any challenge to this belief system ie: Our Government protects us, they keep us safe, America is the good guy etc etc, causes cognitive dissonance. When this happens fear and anxiety take hold which in turn, help kick in the minds psychological defenses. The most primitive psychological defense is, denial. Its easier to deny everything and move on with your life.

If resonator was a sincere and open-minded person he would study the evidence available but he chooses not to. His mind just wont let him. He's not at fault for this. What he is at fault for is taking on the stereotypical American personality of someone who shouts down people who have genuine questions about 9/11, refusal to believe anything other than the "official" story and general pig headedness. He probably truly believes the FBI found one of the hijackers passports 3 blocks from WTC. This would make his statement about the force of the impact, the massive fireball that ensued and the amount of chaos implied seem counterintuitive to the FBIs finding don't you think?

We all have beliefs and ideas don't we? It just seems rather childish and uneducated to challenge people in a way that makes them out to be idiots, especially if they don't share your prophetic wisdom. One of the main reasons 9/11 was such a success for whoever carried it out is because people like Resonator will always be there to continue the lie, albeit, out of good intentions.

haha!

i'd like to call this response the 'i have internet access and i am now an expert' phenomenon. i base my beliefs in common sense. huge fucking airplanes hitting buildings causing them to fall down? yes. many minions scurrying around buildings for days hiding invisible bombs spy vs spy style without anyone knowing and no evidence to the contrary? no.

thanks internet for making a lot of home schooled idiots automatic experts!

[bobjuice]

Re: sad day in america, does anyone think the govt played a part???

res0, florida you're both nifty with pics/photoshop etc - what do you make of this ??

[res0nat0r]

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res0, florida you're both nifty with pics/photoshop etc - what do you make of this ??

looks like dudes walking ... who were blamed for bombing the london underground. exciting no? not sure what that has to do with anything though.

[floridaorange]

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Insert witty response here.

[NickMcDuff]

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haha!

i'd like to call this response the 'i have internet access and i am now an expert' phenomenon. i base my beliefs in common sense. huge fucking airplanes hitting buildings causing them to fall down? yes. many minions scurrying around buildings for days hiding invisible bombs spy vs spy style without anyone knowing and no evidence to the contrary? no.

thanks internet for making a lot of home schooled idiots automatic experts!

You just empowered what I said. Sure, you have a certain belief about what happened and everybody else is foolish. That's fair enough. One thing you can't refute is the psychology I spoke of. Which is based on pure fact, something your 'common sense' approach to life would surely understand.

If you can argue the issue without sounding like a pumped up 'America Fuck Yeah' airhead, then go ahead. I'd doubt very much you can. You claim to know, without any shadow of a doubt what happened. People on the other side of the fence do not. That's why questions are asked. Nobody is denying planes flew into the building. The motives, the precise elements of the operation carried out and the people involved are under scrutiny. If you say you use common sense then use it. Denial is the only emotion on show here, nothing to the contrary. I'm sure your common sense must be itching at the sight of WTC7 free falling to the ground or for the first time in human history a structure defying the very physics that helped it stand upright in the first place?

One quick choice, which is it? A fully loaded plane carrying its max payload of fuel slamming into a building and causing the collapse in near free fall because of the massive damage and trauma to the foundations OR a building that collapses in the exact same manor because of some small fires spread out over a few floors? You can't have both, for obvious common sense reasons.

[res0nat0r]

Re: sad day in america, does anyone think the govt played a part???

in before cia, coverups, and since those guys were fingered as the perps so quickly, it must be an inside job.

[chunky]

Re: sad day in america, does anyone think the govt played a part???

thanks internet for making a lot of home schooled idiots automatic experts!

But res0 the only experts you will listen to are the government appointed ones.

[chunky]

Re: sad day in america, does anyone think the govt played a part???

in before cia, coverups, and since those guys were fingered as the perps so quickly, it must be an inside job.

Closing threads again res0

[chunky]

Re: sad day in america, does anyone think the govt played a part???

The reason Resonator is coming off as arrogant, pompous and small minded is as clear as the sky is blue. He's an American.

Americans have a belief and value system that's bred into them from an early age. Any challenge to this belief system ie: Our Government protects us, they keep us safe, America is the good guy etc etc, causes cognitive dissonance. When this happens fear and anxiety take hold which in turn, help kick in the minds psychological defenses. The most primitive psychological defense is, denial. Its easier to deny everything and move on with your life.

If resonator was a sincere and open-minded person he would study the evidence available but he chooses not to. His mind just wont let him. He's not at fault for this. What he is at fault for is taking on the stereotypical American personality of someone who shouts down people who have genuine questions about 9/11, refusal to believe anything other than the "official" story and general pig headedness. He probably truly believes the FBI found one of the hijackers passports 3 blocks from WTC. This would make his statement about the force of the impact, the massive fireball that ensued and the amount of chaos implied seem counterintuitive to the FBIs finding don't you think?

We all have beliefs and ideas don't we? It just seems rather childish and uneducated to challenge people in a way that makes them out to be idiots, especially if they don't share your prophetic wisdom. One of the main reasons 9/11 was such a success for whoever carried it out is because people like Resonator will always be there to continue the lie, albeit, out of good intentions.

Yes you have described res0 down to a T. Only you can't blame it on him being American, many Americans don't believe the official story either. Like I said before he will run around shouting common sense and logic but there wont be any of it in his posts.

[bobjuice]

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not sure what that has to do with anything though.

One of the most obvious photoshops of our time is still held up as proof that these 4 guys were even together at any stage that day. No footage exists on any other cctv cameras anywhere in London (the cctv capital of the universe) of them and the official story maintains they met up and caught the 7.40 into London, a train that didn't run that day.

Yet, still this bollocks is accepted as truth. NickMcDuff mentioned there about the passports found near the twin towers that survived the whole thing, that really is fucking amazing. Can the Saudi authorities get in touch with people in the uk and tell them how they make them so tough. Mine fell apart on the edge of a swimming pool on holiday once and cost me £80 to replace, i'd happily pay a little more for one of these Saudi ones.

After the London bombings there was a similar confirmation of the bombers' id, only someone planted the same id at 2 sites, which was maybe a little amateurish but hey ho.

Initial TV reports of "terrorists" being gunned down in Canary Wharf are now lost forever as if they never existed, but i fucking watched it for myself.

These jihadis from suburban Yorkshire then seemed to ditch their homemade fertiliser bombs and climbed under moving trains with military grade explosives at some point ? I don't know how else the blasts came up through the train floors, really i don't.

Examples, I think, of people accepting information from official sources while it clearly doesn't add up.

You may not think it relevant Reso, fair enough. I think the parallels are clear.

[bobjuice]

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Insert witty response here.

^ Still thinking eh John ??

[trick12]

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Only you can't blame it on him being American, many Americans don't believe the official story either.

this is correct

[floridaorange]

Re: sad day in america, does anyone think the govt played a part???

The reason Resonator is coming off as arrogant, pompous and small minded is as clear as the sky is blue. He's an American.

Americans have a belief and value system that's bred into them from an early age. Any challenge to this belief system ie: Our Government protects us, they keep us safe, America is the good guy etc etc, causes cognitive dissonance.

Your first post is full of over generalizations and stereotypes? Congrats you're a douchebag.