The Way I See It

**res0nat0r** · November 4, 2011, 07:18:56 PM

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That silly bastard will not be president.

averted. You do realize Obama had popular support over the white guy and has a huge youth following. Also gays in the military now too, wow. Not a big deal anymore. Being black isn't an issue.

Falling back to the race thing since you are out of ideas right now?

**floridaorange** · November 4, 2011, 07:38:10 PM

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Obama will win in 2012. I will bet anyone, anything.

**clintlove** · November 4, 2011, 11:32:59 PM

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Reso, Florida, you guys crack me up when you stand up for this guy who has absolutely destroyed our country's values, unity, and the economy. Do you two hate republicans that much or do you really like Obama? Be honest.

Cain is a good American man, raised to earn a living and not rely on the government tit. This shit about the sexual harassment charge, I could see it coming from a mile away. Our democrat president Clinton can get his dick sucked by a 19 year intern in the oval office, but a black republican candidate is getting grilled for saying a "sexual" comment to a coworker fucking 20 years ago. This is the best the his political opponents could dig up. The mainstream liberal media will be the only reason he isn't elected. I truly thought he could fix our country's economy at first, but now with the gaywad protesters, I'm not sure the "99%" will give anyone a chance to do so.

This kinda sums it up.

RM, race will not divide this country. Politics however will. I've said this before and I'll say it again, if Obama is re-elected in 2012 our country will divide and will no longer be the USA. In the off chance that doesn't happen, it will be because our military will forcefully remove him from office.

**floridaorange** · November 5, 2011, 12:23:22 AM

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Originally posted by clintlove

this guy who has absolutely destroyed our country's values, unity, and the economy.

No

**res0nat0r** · November 5, 2011, 01:08:51 AM

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lolwut. How about the stupid dickhead who drove this country to two wars and put us in the serious debt shithole where we are now? He had nothing to do with it at all? Humm. I don't know how Obama destroyed this country...wait yes I do. Black Jesus didn't save the world within 6 months of taking office and undo all of the fuckstorm that Bush created in his 2 terms prior. So it is his fault. Unfortunately Ameurrica is dumb enough to belive this right now, and the Repubs are doing all they can to keep that up and fucking over anything the Dems would want to do just so Obama will lose. Why is it everyone defending Repubs don't acknowledge this at all? Everyone says Obama is fucking the world over, but WTF is going on with the Republicans? This is why Congress is fucked right now, if they are going to cut their nose off to spite their face...well fuck all of em they all should be fired.

Also the whole Herman Cain thing ain't black on black crime again, it is standard politics. That shit conveniently always happens at the oh so worst time. Also Clinton did get his wang chung'd and remember what happened with that? I seem to remember that didn't get swept under the rug.

Also McCain is a good American man who wants to keep all of our troops overseas who are fighting two wars. Very patriotic of him to keep up the good fight.

**clintlove** · November 5, 2011, 04:26:44 AM

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Wow, our views are so very, very different. There's not one thing I could say, fact or opinion, that would make you understand or change your mind; and vice versa. Sometimes I wonder why I get involved in political discussions. Like I'm going to change someone's view who opposes my political views. Believe what you want to I guess. There's definitely two sides to every story. Who says I'm right because it's what I believe.

Not sure why I'm continuing, but ah, fuck it. Here goes.

My view on Obama is he had a Democratic House and Senate his first 2 years in office. They approved any and everything he wanted. They approved his "milestone" Obamacare. Why he thought the government could defy the constitution and force Americans to buy insurance or be financially penalized is beyond me. However, his administration approved it. He then spent trillions of dollars to "boost" the economy. Actual results were no improvement at all; It's actually gotten worse. Because of this, the mainstream liberal Obama supporting media has purposely created an ever widening gap between the wealthy and poor, whites and "minorities" (I fucking hate that word by the way), upper class to middle class to lower class. It's gotten so bad, people are protesting in the streets about wealth redistribution and how the rich need to be increasingly taxed so the government will give them more without working for it or earning it. (I do understand that some of the protests started because of the huge bailouts on wallstreet and that shit should definitely stop) However, Obama created and approved the largest bailouts in history (example solyndra), but no one is protesting him. Why?

The Republican Senate is now opposing Obama's bills, because they will fail... again, and increase our country's debt. They also know it's not the taxpaying (I know, some of them don't pay taxes and they definitely shout) rich Americans fault our country is in the shitter. How dare they earn more money than somebody else. If you would pay attention, you would see Republicans have proposed their own Jobs bills that the democratic house has rejected. Why, because it's a Republican bill to boost the economy that doesn't increase taxes on the rich.

It's time to stop blaming Bush for our country's economic issues. Yes he started 2 wars. One was over the largest terrorist attack America had ever experienced, so it was kinda justified. The other however was over what his administration advised him to do. Track down weapons of mass destruction in a terrorist county, which we now know didn't exist. Those wars eventually became so costly our economy started to take a nosedive during his last year as president. Obama inherited a country in debt. If democrats truly wanted to fix the economy and not run it into the ground like it is today, they had ample opportunity to do so during the first 2 years. Every economic boost his administration has put in place has failed miserably. It's time to start putting blame where blame is due.

Res, your Black Jesus comment is kinda ridiculous. You're actually proving my point by saying things like that.

On Cain keeping our troops in war. If you would actually listen to what he said and not what the media is saying he said, you would hear that he would listen to the military advisers that are commanding our troops in war. If they advised him to keep our troops there, he would keep our troops there. If anyone knows what's best to do for our military in war, it's the military. After all they are the one's actually fighting.

Now..... it's 3:30 in the morning, and I've been doing a little drinking. I'm gonna stop ranting and hit the sack. Ya'll have a good night.

**res0nat0r** · November 5, 2011, 12:58:09 PM

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I'm just amazed he should be able to fix the entire countries problems in 2 years, hence he must be Black Jesus if that is actually achievable. Also if the banks weren't bailed out we would be in an even 100% worse situation than we are right now, and everyone would be blaming Obama also. He was fucked from the get go by inheriting a country so far fucked up, so pointing the finger at one person is a bit shortsighted imo.

Also the Repubs tried to subpoena White House regarding Solyndra, but they are only doing that because they care about the money.

On wonder his ass has gotten so much gray hair the last 2 years.

**res0nat0r** · November 5, 2011, 01:03:03 PM

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Also I think the current state reinforces my point, it is either all or none with everyone in Congress right now, so say hello to the country going down the shitter even more until they all stop acting like dumbass school children. Hence the lowest approval ratings numbers for Congress EVER I believe.

**floridaorange** · November 5, 2011, 02:32:26 PM

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Originally posted by res0nat0r

so pointing the finger at one person is a bit shortsighted imo.

Yes.

**clintlove** · November 5, 2011, 05:27:54 PM

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Originally posted by res0nat0r

I'm just amazed he should be able to fix the entire countries problems in 2 years

With full power in Congress in those two years, he could have at least improved the economy if he had any intentions on doing so. It's gotten so much worse since he was elected.

Either way you look at it, making rich people pay for the problems our government has created in the last 5 years is totally fucked up. That's his only plan at the moment. Correct me if I'm wrong.

**floridaorange** · November 5, 2011, 05:44:37 PM

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Either way you look at it, the way I see it, he's our President for 4+ more years. Lets wish him the best.

**res0nat0r** · November 5, 2011, 06:01:54 PM

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Note...taxes on the rich are lower than than they ever have been, so I don't think anyone should be crying if they get raised back to where the used to be, or even more. Amurrica seems to think that all of our problems need to be solved, as long as it isn't me. IE: Fix everything, but don't ask me to chip in to do it, find a way without any change of lifestyle on my part. No universal healthcare since why should I be bothered to help anyone else out? Should toss out Social Security and Medicare right away too, and anyone who doesn't want universal coverage should decline any public assistance on moral grounds if they hit hard times then.

**floridaorange** · November 5, 2011, 06:35:33 PM

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Thirty top companies dodge tax

http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/thirty-top-companies-dodge-tax-20111104-1myie.html

**clintlove** · November 5, 2011, 07:06:01 PM

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I'm not talking about companies Florida, I'm talking about people. All companies and all people should pay taxes. Problem solved.

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