Religion? Faith? Anything?

**floridaorange** · December 22, 2011, 03:29:23 PM

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**Illuminate** · December 22, 2011, 04:39:06 PM

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^Well played.

**Illuminate** · December 23, 2011, 06:05:24 PM

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Skip to 13:00 mins in, and watch one great debate.

**unkle** · December 23, 2011, 06:17:38 PM

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Originally posted by floridaorange

**Michael^Heaven** · December 28, 2011, 08:50:57 AM

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Originally posted by floridaorange

**Kamal** · December 28, 2011, 08:57:32 AM

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Originally posted by floridaorange

Hope it made up for the religion debacle.

**ddr** · December 28, 2011, 01:36:32 PM

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Originally posted by Illuminate

Pros: Enhances ones ethical and moral beliefs in an individual, this is important in young children especially.
Cons: Political, and Financial disbelief The Vatican city for example. Wars. violence, abuse, degradation of women? Still a big WTF with all these issues.

pretty good points that I take to heart also.

I consider myself to be agnostic. Personally, I think it makes more sense to pay homage to the Sun, since it literally is our "God" Without it, no life on Earth would be possible. The whole part about believing in a said deity that is more human than supernatural or cosmos-related is only finding a way to make humans more Godly than we really are and taking science out of the equation. And that is what brings us to organized religion today, where humans have warped it so much as to only serve their own ideologies and people in power forcing those religious ideologies upon the rest of us either socially, politically, or through wars.

my 2 cents

**mnbvcxz** · January 4, 2012, 10:11:25 PM

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I think it's ridiculous for any one religion to be considered the 'truth'. The amount of re-interpretations over thousands of years which have now become the official scriptures of each religion would have changed so significantly from the original message it's impossible to be entirely correct. It's just common sense.

Atheists are hypocrites. Generally their argument is "how can you prove there is a God?" Well "How can you prove there isn't?"

Agnostic or simply believing in some kind of higher being make much more sense to me.

**mnbvcxz** · January 4, 2012, 10:21:01 PM

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Originally posted by ddr

pretty good points that I take to heart also.

I consider myself to be agnostic. Personally, I think it makes more sense to pay homage to the Sun, since it literally is our "God" Without it, no life on Earth would be possible. The whole part about believing in a said deity that is more human than supernatural or cosmos-related is only finding a way to make humans more Godly than we really are and taking science out of the equation. And that is what brings us to organized religion today, where humans have warped it so much as to only serve their own ideologies and people in power forcing those religious ideologies upon the rest of us either socially, politically, or through wars.

my 2 cents

Taking science out of the equation? Both religion and science are flawed so you cannot use either one to describe the true essence of the Universe. The laws of physics that we know today are only frameworks which we apply to real life - for practical purposes. But the equations and theories in themselves do not adequately explain the Universe.

Science and technology is great and we've come a long way, but in comparison to what is actually out there we know fuck all. We've only scratched the surface. How can we then profess to understand the origins and existence of the Universe?

When you read about current progressions in astrophysics and quantum physics, together with philosophical theories it's quite apparent how small a role we play and how much we don't understand.

**jay813** · January 4, 2012, 11:29:12 PM

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Originally posted by nikoa

I think it's ridiculous for any one religion to be considered the 'truth'. The amount of re-interpretations over thousands of years which have now become the official scriptures of each religion would have changed so significantly from the original message it's impossible to be entirely correct. It's just common sense.

Atheists are hypocrites. Generally their argument is "how can you prove there is a God?" Well "How can you prove there isn't?"

Agnostic or simply believing in some kind of higher being make much more sense to me.

god i cant count how many times i hear religious people constantly spew logical fallacies such as this. you want to know why atheist always talk shit to the religious? because you havent read your college textbook Debating 101: YOU CANT DISPROVE ANYTHING!!! THE ONE MAKING THE CLAIM MUST PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE!!!

Theres a pink fucking elephant on Mars!!, NO YOU SAY? Prove theres no pink elephant on mars...

jesus fucking christ

**floridaorange** · January 5, 2012, 12:10:45 AM

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**mnbvcxz** · January 5, 2012, 12:26:51 AM

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**jay813** · January 5, 2012, 12:33:27 AM

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Originally posted by nikoa

Are you mental? Fucking read. I'm NOT religious.

I believe both atheism and religion are equally stupid.

so you're just stupid then, got it. and yes im mental.

**mnbvcxz** · January 5, 2012, 12:38:29 AM

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**Illuminate** · January 5, 2012, 02:04:53 AM

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