Carnivore, Pescatarian, Vegetarian or Vegan?

[floridaorange]

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If people could see the way these animals are treated they might feel morally compelled to make changes in their diets but alas, people love to live in blissful ignorance.

The affects would be staggering...

[chanty]

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^ I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic but I'm leaning towards serious!

[floridaorange]

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^ I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic but I'm leaning towards serious!

Very serious indeed. Everyone here should watch "life in a day."

[Kat]

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[go0gle]

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I think the problem comes from our planet's population growth, we just passed the 7 billion mark: http://www.worldometers.info/

How is the food industry supposed to keep up with demand ? Its easy to say "they don't care, and they treat the animals bad" but then again, none of the people saying that, have any ideas on how to provide meet to the growing demand, and at the same time, treat the animals better and so on. I know, its all profit based and that changes things, but.. a lot of other industries are based on the same general principle.

I had a steak last night, and it was amazing.. it probably happens once a month, but I do enjoy it.

And .. okay, i will say it, without meet, we won't even be able to talk about all of this right now. Its an essential part of our evolution as a species

[Jenks]

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And .. okay, i will say it, without meet, we won't even be able to talk about all of this right now. Its an essential part of our evolution as a species

Sigh... no it isn't. I'd like to see you expand on this though: "meat is an essential part of our evolution as a species," with, ya know, facts and science and stuff. Kthx.

[go0gle]

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Sigh... no it isn't. I'd like to see you expand on this though: "meat is an essential part of our evolution as a species," with, ya know, facts and science and stuff. Kthx.

Prof. John Hawks has a really cool lectures series on the subject,called Rise Of Humans. I uploaded the first 5 episodes of the series in a zip file for you. If you have the time, listen to episodes:


Brain Structure Versus Brain Size and also The Dietary Hypothesis ...


download:

http://www.mediafire.com/?s4ywqychky98g9f

And I could ask you the same .. there is no concrete evidence to support both claims. But i think that protein/amino acids were essential to brain development, and I don't think we were getting it from quinoa or soy beans..


here is how all the files should look like, when unzipped.. if you are interested in the rest, let me know and I will upload them as well





if you don't have a zip program, you could try this free one: http://danielcurran.com/freeware/a-f...-winrar-7-zip/

[Jenks]

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And I could ask you the same .. there is no concrete evidence to support both claims. But i think that protein/amino acids were essential to brain development, and I don't think we were getting it from quinoa or soy beans..

There may not be concrete evidence on the basis of evolution, but there is most certainly concrete evidence that the modern day human doesn't need meat for development/life/etc.

Interesting stuff from Hawks, I'm not saying we're carnivors or vegetarians, (more realistically we're ABLE to be mixed feeders) - im arguing that our bodoies are better equipped and thrive eating plants vs. meats, and this notion that a so many people believe that humans need meat for evolution/survivial/born to eat meat, etc is silly and actually dangerous.

We can definitely get all the proteins and amono acids from plants and not meats. I do so on a weekly basis, and train heavily 5 days a week. Protein is protein, amino acids are amino acids- where they come from doesn't necessarily matter. What does matter 1. our bodies ability to extract these nutrients from the source, and 2. the excess proteins, sat fats, bad cholesterol etc in meats that our bodies have difficulty with which doesn't exist in a plant based diet. It's not an anomoly that vegetarians have an almost half as much of a chance of death from heart disease, kidney disease, prostate and colon cancer, diabietes than meat eaters do.

I could write on this for days, as i've just spent the last 4 months buried in fitness and nutrition books, but i'm likely not solving any of humanity's dietary issues rambling mercuyserver, so i'll save the time. lol. It's frustrating to me that the commercial food industry has brainwashed so many Americans into believing what is beneficial for their products, and even more frustrating that our government encourages it to happen. Don't even get me started on milk.

I could pull up study after study on nutrition that i've read, but a simple google search will do you the same if you're so inclined on meat vs. plant based diet.

That said, it's friday night, and i'm probably picking up a local grassfed hanger steak on my way home to go on the grill. It's been a couple of weeks, and i'm drooling to have one with a nice bottle of wine.

I'm not advocating being a strict vegetarian, and i'm definitely not rallying with the fucking overboard PETA people, im just saying eat less goddamn meat, it's killing you.

[Haziel]

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The food industry is really fucked up , almost everything DERIVES from corn ... trust me, corn is evil peeps

That said I drink the blood of young fresh oracles ... I think its time for me to move to romania and become a gypsy vampire, I hear the calling... next five posts will get free card readings and a Saban Bajramovic CD

[Jenks]

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next five posts will get free card readings and a Saban Bajramovic CD

FIRST! holler!!!

[helloprilly]

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I love meat... usually closer to rare then medium rare. I love fish too though, sushi especially... Chicken I'm okay with but it's bland sometimes unless I spice the hell out of it... and love veggies too, nothing like a mondo fresh salad... oh and Cheese... LOVE cheese..

I guess I'm an all around food person. *lol* Long as the portions are controlled and I don't overdo it in any one area I'm good. Try to eat healthy though that is sometiems hard to do on a very tight budget. I try to cook all my meals at home, and use leftovers for lunch the next day.

Every now and then though I'm just DYING for some grease though and have to go to mcd's. But that's usually like a once/month or two month thing, dno't do that often. Have tried the vegetarian route and got severely anemic and was very sickly during that time... So went back to having meat in my diet and never felt better.

[Haziel]

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FIRST! holler!!!

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[88Mariner]

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Cats and Dogs are meat eaters.

What is their saliva ph?


And what is the human saliva Ph again? Oh, right there too?




Haziel is right about the corn. But me, I'm too lazy to buy organic non-corn-fed meat. . That'll probably change at some point.

[Kat]

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just for fun

[floridaorange]

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I was shooting a commercial at the Florida Hospital on Monday, during lunch I took an elevator down to the cafeteria, snapped a picture of this after getting off the elevator: