John Digweed - Live in Cordoba

[simonr]

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I assume the release of the CD is about the Bedrock label, keeping a profile for releasing music and promoting new artists/music (CD3).

If you honestly think that much money is made out of this you are all well out of touch - all artists will be getting paid, and having your track on a third unmixed CD should also result in more money.

Selling 3 x CDs at £10.99 is hardly the biggest money maker. Do you really think running a label a luctrative these days - for every track sold there must be a ton of illegal downloads.

As for whinging about things not being free ... years ago, bar the Essential mixes, you all had to pay for you music !!

Around the time of this release John's fans got a WHP mix, a Timewarp Mix and an [ms] exclusive Moonpark set : i.e. 5 hours of free live music.

This is the sad state of affairs we've reached in terms of an unwillingess to pay towards the artists/labels you like ... at some point the producers will end up packing it all in through a lack of livelihood ... then everyone will moan about a lack of quality music out there.

There seems a distinct lack of support for things these days, which annoys the hell out of me and (frankly) makes me embarassed at where the scene has come to.

[simonr]

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Plus kudos to Chunky ... who buys the old cassettes off e-bay, spends his own time ripping it and pays for the sites he uploads and shares streams/downloads from for the benefit of everyone. In terms of unpaid time and running costs this probably amounts to a few £££s over a year.

[tribalcho]

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Come on..SimonR and Homegrove..We all know you are the biggest fans of Diggers on here..We all are his fans..Man is a legend and that's why people's expectations are so high and there is disappointment because the simple truth is that this Cordoba release is BAD..Face it..Digweed's decision to release a live recording (and its not his best one!) as a mixed CD was wrong....nothing more

[chunky]

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the simple truth is that this Cordoba release is BAD..Face it..Digweed's decision to release a live recording (and its not his best one!) as a mixed CD was wrong....nothing more

I seem to remember the same being said about Northern Exposure when it was released. Some of the best CD's I own didn't do anything for me the first few times I listened to them. Some took months and even years before I could fully appreciate them.

[chunky]

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I've always found that the CD's that have a big impact when they're released are usually the one's that people tire of really quickly.

[tribalcho]

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I seem to remember the same being said about Northern Exposure when it was released. Some of the best CD's I own didn't do anything for me the first few times I listened to them. Some took months and even years before I could fully appreciate them.

Well chunky,lets hope you are right..only the time will tell...I like to be honest CD 1,but dont find it as something really impressive..CD 2 is what disappointed me most..the only track i liked is Helios by Oliver Lieb,but thats because i love almost everything under the name Lieb (one of my old trance heroes)..

[simonr]

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Come on..SimonR and Homegrove..We all know you are the biggest fans of Diggers on here..We all are his fans..Man is a legend and that's why people's expectations are so high and there is disappointment because the simple truth is that this Cordoba release is BAD..Face it..Digweed's decision to release a live recording (and its not his best one!) as a mixed CD was wrong....nothing more

True with the big fan part .. but the non-music comments do my nut in.

The part of Digweeds sets I really enjoy are the early segments with the house and tech elements where he moves the sound around and plays different music, driving things up a little and taking it back down, throwing in the unexpected. This is the sort of thing he does at fabric and in the longer sets.

Some people prefer the latter parts, where its banged out more .. for home listening/commuting I prefer something with the other elements, so Córdoba suits me fine .. if I want a banging set or one back to the prog days my drive has plenty of them.

I saw a comment the other day on Bedrock saying its not the Digweed they remembered of the 90's !! The 90's was 13 years ago ... music and artists move on.

Many people actually think this is v good (there's just the same dissenting voices here) ... for me the idea is a great one ... its different, nothing wrong with that.

Only seen one review .. but that seems positive:

Dance music reviews | Spadang: John Digweed, Live In Cordoba review

Nice addition to my collection, v nice little package, some excellent music ... and it'll sound great in years to come. Well worth the price of 2.5 pints.

[Hydrosonic]

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The part of Digweeds sets I really enjoy are the early segments with the house and tech elements where he moves the sound around and plays different music, driving things up a little and taking it back down, throwing in the unexpected. This is the sort of thing he does at fabric and in the longer sets.

This ^. First hour of his sets are usually full of intrigue...

Incidentally I'm rather warming to CD 2! Will have to spend a pleasant evening playing the 2 CDs back-to-back.

[jay813]

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I seem to remember the same being said about Northern Exposure when it was released. Some of the best CD's I own didn't do anything for me the first few times I listened to them. Some took months and even years before I could fully appreciate them.

you mean it takes digweed a few years to find his groove?

[go0gle]

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Cordoba release is BAD..Face it..

And.. I assume we should take your opinion as a universal law ? Nah.. I actually really like CD2! Its great for running.. you should try it!

As far as paying for it.. I mean, we get plenty of free music already, its ok to give something in return every once in a while, no?

[tribalcho]

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Well i think i am NOT the only one with that kind of opinion : P

[clintlove]

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A lot of whine in here, but no cheese.....

[chunky]

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you mean it takes digweed a few years to find his groove?

The term you are looking for is stride

[feather]

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Well here's a question: Cordoba was so amazing that he decided to release the set.

Out of a 5(?) hr set he reckons the early 2hrs is the highlight of an amazing night? Surely not? Are the rest of the 3hrs worse than this???

I don't think the discussion here is about paying or Digweed making a buck. We're all fans and we've all contributed to his gigs and releases over the years.

The dissonance here is around the idea that Cordoba was SO AMAZING HE HAD TO release it (and we generally go rabid over the idea of a live set from Digweed to begin with), and then hearing this.

You know, in business speak there's this thing called 'managing expectations.'

[dig72]

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You're not interested in purchasing because these days a lot of DJs put shitloads of sets available for free, making all of us spoiled. Nobody buys mix cds anymore because of the same reason. Digweed chooses not to do that and people complain?! I don't get it.

Not at all, I still buy comps simply because I enjoy them alot more than your weekly/monthly, run of the mill promos/mixes. And supporting the artists is another reason.

Why didn't he release 'another' live set on his show for everyone to enjoy, like he's done in the past? I mean what was so special about that Cordoba night, that made him want to charge fans this time round?


Would we all be happy, if Digweed decided that fans would have to pay to listen to his weekly Transitions shows? I mean why not, he could very well choose to do that and nobody can say shite. And he may or may not lose fans/support as a result.

But hey, that's business.