The Obama Impeachment

[88Mariner]

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So you and G both think Mitt will take down Obama? We'll just have to wait and see I guess.

Mitt will win. He's hands down a model citizen. Incredibly intelligent. Hard working. And he's to the right of McCain.

The only reason why Gingrich is in the race is because that Adelson guy in Vegas wants to torpedo Santorum's campaign. If Gingrich left, a lot of his support would swing to Santorum. By keeping Gingrich in the race, Adelson keeps Santorum from winning. And seeing how seemingly unintelligent Santorum is, this is a good thing imho.

Also, now that I'm discussing the remaining candidates, people who support Gingrich aren't interested in beating Obama. They're interested in completely mocking him during an eventual presidential campaign. Gingrich has his own problems, not least that he's pussy-whipped by his wife. I think Gingrich vs. Obama is a close call and I think the Obama campaign will smear him left and right from day one, so I give Obama the win over Gingrich (particularly because he's got dirt on him).

And that aside, Gingrich isn't going to win the primary. Just impossible at this point.


Obama vs. Romney? No chance in hell Obama wins. Obama is alienating the jewish bloc. He's alienating the catholic bloc (which counts in the Northeast where Mitt is strong). And he's hilariously struggling with the female vote (because the democrats are notorious hypocrites ... Romney has the advantage with the female vote imo).

Side question: which is more likely: that Obama gets the same number of votes this fall as he did in 2008, or that he gets considerably fewer votes than he did in 2008?

Anecdote: I've seen precisely TWO "obama 2012" stickers on cars. I saw probably hundreds in 2008.

Anecdote: blacks are doing terrible under this administration. if Obama ever decided to identify with his white half, I think msnbc would start calling him a closet racist for how badly the black communities are hurting right now.

Obama will also be facing a few other things in the summer and fall

1. higher gas prices.
2. lots of talk of a secondary housing bubble to pop
3. all the new grads in the summer who can't find work
4. potential war in the middle east (of which he'll notoriously mishandle.)

a few other things, but minor ones.

Romney's biggest threat is,

[vinnie97]

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Did you get interrupted on that post, chief, or were you just being clever?

[88Mariner]

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^ started that last sentence, then thought of something else I wanted to add about gingrich, forgot that I had even started the last sentence before i hit post.

ah well.

[res0nat0r]

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Gingrich is on his 3rd wife which is great lulz there. He has no chance and should just shut the hell up. Sheldon Adelson does want him to win, but he ain't going to do shit.

Romney will get the nom no doubt, that is inevitable, and honestly he looks like the most sane candidate from the Repubs IMO. It will be a close-ish race I think, but I wouldn't put anything past the American voters. Obama won't in any way get the great numbers like he did before. Since he didn't turn out to be Black Jesus like I've said 100x and turn all of us into millionaires in the 4 years he had to turn the world around, he isn't going to do so well, but I think he does have a decent chance. Also I believe Obama still has a very high black vote support if I'm not mistaken. But I think it will be close race...

[res0nat0r]

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But...It is like Jenks keeps saying...Every candidate now sucks ass. Both parties are extremists now and want all or none and will do whatever they can to fuck over the other party to get it, which makes it worse for everyone.

[vinnie97]

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I disagree...Ron Paul is the most sane because he hasn't been bought by the same vested interests that are in part responsible for bringing us to the brink of cataclysm, not to mention his housing bubble predictions as early as 10 years before it happened. The spending under Barrack is actually making us all poorer by reducing the value of the dollar, so he's done the opposite of "making us millionaires."

Finally, it is difficult to distinguish between the lists of Mittens and Barry campaign donors; many of the same players very clearly playing both sides. With these two candidates, the status quo continues uninterrupted. Mitt is talking a good talk about needing to cut waste, but will he act on it (can he?)? Yes, big money is needed to win elections, but the election-buying isn't going to work in perpetuity, especially when the majority of voters begin to vote for the candidate who promises the most freebies. This is unsustainable, and this is Barry's modus operandi of late (we will help you...be more dependent on the govt). I can't understand why the black community would have the same enthusiasm 4 years later aside from those who vote based on race (and those who are the most gullible about govt. handouts and the unsustainability of hollow promises).

[Illuminate]

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A good report, which keeps things in reality:

To me it seems like same shit, 4 years on that's all.

[floridaorange]

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^exactly. what people say and even what headlines say is one thing. What goes on in the voting booth is another story. I know the more conservative members on the board are holding on to the hope that Romney is going to win, but I personally don't see it.

[88Mariner]

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But...It is like Jenks keeps saying...Every candidate now sucks ass. Both parties are extremists now and want all or none and will do whatever they can to fuck over the other party to get it, which makes it worse for everyone.

again, you have the burden to explain why Romney sucks ass. You have the burden of explaining how Romney is an 'extremist'. You have to explain to me how Romney is out to 'fuck over the other party' to win the presidency.

I disagree...Ron Paul is the most sane because he hasn't been bought by the same vested interests that are in part responsible for bringing us to the brink of cataclysm, not to mention his housing bubble predictions as early as 10 years before it happened. The spending under Barrack is actually making us all poorer by reducing the value of the dollar, so he's done the opposite of "making us millionaires."

Finally, it is difficult to distinguish between the lists of Mittens and Barry campaign donors; many of the same players very clearly playing both sides. With these two candidates, the status quo continues uninterrupted. Mitt is talking a good talk about needing to cut waste, but will he act on it (can he?)? Yes, big money is needed to win elections, but the election-buying isn't going to work in perpetuity, especially when the majority of voters begin to vote for the candidate who promises the most freebies. This is unsustainable, and this is Barry's modus operandi of late (we will help you...be more dependent on the govt). I can't understand why the black community would have the same enthusiasm 4 years later aside from those who vote based on race (and those who are the most gullible about govt. handouts and the unsustainability of hollow promises).

Ron Paul is only sane on fiscal responsibility. Probably nothing else.

[Garrick]

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some people think romney is the most democratic republican in the republican race... i for sure do not think he's an right-wing extremist. he probably would have fit just as well running as a democrat than as a republican, imo.

[floridaorange]

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^yah, although most of america's voters are moderate in their politics aka they fall somewhere near the middle.

[res0nat0r]

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again, you have the burden to explain why Romney sucks ass. You have the burden of explaining how Romney is an 'extremist'. You have to explain to me how Romney is out to 'fuck over the other party' to win the presidency.

Ron Paul is only sane on fiscal responsibility. Probably nothing else.

Both parties are idiots right now. See previous showdown until the last minute over the budget increase. Rommeny and party are going to have a hard time since they are schizo right now on who they want to to support which ain't good for them I think.

[vinnie97]

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Ron Paul is only sane on fiscal responsibility. Probably nothing else.

Can't have the fiscal sanity without putting everything on the table, including the Military (I am sure you think he goes too far).

[res0nat0r]

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Hes too wacky on all of his abolish every gov't service everywhere stance, which is why he won't get anywhere...

[vinnie97]

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Well, that's a bit of an exaggeration. I can play that game, too. At the rate we're going, there will soon be an ass-wiping service for those too lazy or inept to do it themselves.

What's worse, his vision of self-sufficiency or a cradle to the grave assistance program? The direction we're headed with big brother isn't one that bodes well for the future.