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  • dre4
    Getting Somewhere
    • Jul 2006
    • 211

    #61
    Re: The Obama Impeachment

    Originally posted by vinnie97
    Reuters plays loose with the facts. In the comment at the bottom of that misleading article is:


    Who to believe, who to believe...definitely not the media that is in the tank for this administration.
    the cost did not double though per your statement. check the politifact link http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...g-has-doubled/. from the cbo http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil... Estimates.pdf

    CBO and JCT now estimate that the insurance coverage provisions of the ACA will have a net cost of just under $1.1 trillion over the 2012–2021 period—about $50 billion less than the agencies’ March 2011 estimate for that 10-year period (see Table 1, following the text).........

    Those amounts do not encompass all of the budgetary impacts of the ACA because that legislation has many other provisions, including some that will cause significant reductions in Medicare spending and others that will generate added tax revenues, relative to what would have occurred under prior law. CBO and JCT have previously estimated that the ACA will, on net, reduce budget deficits over the 2012–2021 period; that estimate of the overall budgetary impact of the ACA has not been updated.4
    The current estimate of the gross costs of the coverage provisions ($1,496 billion through 2021) is about $50 billion higher than last year’s projection; however, the other budgetary effects of those provisions, which partially offset those gross costs, also have increased in CBO and JCT’s estimates (to $413 billion), leading to the small decrease in the net 10-year tally. Over the 10-year period from 2012 through 2021, enactment of the coverage provisions of the ACA was projected last March to increase federal deficits by $1,131 billion, whereas the March 2012 estimate indicates that those provisions will increase deficits by $1,083 billion. The net cost was boosted by an additional $168 billion in estimated costs for Medicaid and CHIP and $8 billion less in estimated revenues from the excise tax on high-premium health insurance plans. But those increases were more than offset by a reduction of $97 billion in the projected costs for the tax credits and other subsidies for health insurance provided through the exchanges and related spending, a reduction of $20 billion in the projected costs for tax credits for small employers, and a reduction of $107 billion in deficits from the projected revenue effects of changes in taxable compensation and penalty payments and from other small changes in estimated spending.
    This report also presents estimates through fiscal year 2022, because the baseline projection period now extends through that additional year. The ACA’s provisions related to insurance coverage are now projected to have a net cost of $1,252 billion over the 2012–2022 period (see Table 2, following the text); that amount represents a gross cost to the federal government of $1,762 billion, offset in part by $510 billion in receipts and other budgetary effects (primarily revenues from penalties and other sources).

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    • vinnie97
      Are you Kidding me??
      • Jul 2007
      • 3454

      #62
      Re: The Obama Impeachment

      I concur that doubled was an exaggeration. The price expectations did climb, however.

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      • dig72
        Gold Gabber
        • Nov 2004
        • 882

        #63
        Re: The Obama Impeachment

        Originally posted by res0nat0r
        ^

        Like I said, I'm not sure why everyone is blaming everything on Black Jesus, or the lack of walking on water....does everyone really think good olde' Mitt or some White Jesus Repub can magically change the course of the USA in 4. More. Years?
        Agreed.

        Ron Paul is the only one who may be able to introduce some major changes. Some in his camp actually believe that Ron Paul has a real chance, despite all the reports suggesting otherwise in the msn. I disagree with them.

        And the rest in the Republican Race are a complete and utter joke. The whole thing was doomed from the beginning, I mean you had a casino owner out there, having the balls to announce and then run for President.

        Who on earth makes this shit up?

        It's pure Hollywood and the stranglehold she has the minds of millions is truly amazing.

        Obama will get his second term and we'll all just have to put up with his shit for another 4 years.
        “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
        Marcus Tullius Cicero

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        • floridaorange
          I'm merely a humble butler
          • Dec 2005
          • 29116

          #64
          Re: The Obama Impeachment

          Originally posted by dig72
          Obama will get his second term and we'll all just have to put up with his shit for another 4 years.
          At least dig72 is dealing in reality.

          It was fun while it lasted...

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          • vinnie97
            Are you Kidding me??
            • Jul 2007
            • 3454

            #65
            Re: The Obama Impeachment

            That's one prevailing opinion. Dude is dead-on re: the positive effect of Ron Paul.

            Still, a lot can change in 8 months...just ask Jimmy Carter.

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            • floridaorange
              I'm merely a humble butler
              • Dec 2005
              • 29116

              #66
              Re: The Obama Impeachment

              ^hoping will all your might aren't ya Vincent?

              It was fun while it lasted...

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              • vinnie97
                Are you Kidding me??
                • Jul 2007
                • 3454

                #67
                Re: The Obama Impeachment

                I don't really need to hope (that is left to the domain of the lemmings who fell for a campaign slogan). There is plenty of soundbyte fodder that will undermine Barack. One big one I can recollect is the necessary skyrocketing of energy prices.

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                • floridaorange
                  I'm merely a humble butler
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 29116

                  #68
                  Re: The Obama Impeachment

                  Yah, this goes here...


                  It was fun while it lasted...

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                  • vinnie97
                    Are you Kidding me??
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 3454

                    #69
                    Re: The Obama Impeachment

                    Looks like a lot of suckling at the teet of the usurper there.

                    This one should go here, too (ex-commie countries reporting on the saga of the falsified BC, since most of the American media won't):

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                    • res0nat0r
                      Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
                      • May 2006
                      • 14475

                      #70
                      Re: The Obama Impeachment

                      Originally posted by vinnie97
                      Looks like a lot of suckling at the teet of the usurper there.

                      This one should go here, too (ex-commie countries reporting on the saga of the falsified BC, since most of the American media won't):

                      http://translate.google.com/translat...ci_wag&act=url
                      You've proven that there are racist idiots not just in America. Thanks!

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                      • Illuminate
                        DUDERZ get a life!!!
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 5152

                        #71
                        Re: The Obama Impeachment

                        Black or White.

                        I think Vinnie has an animosity for both.

                        The One contains the Many, and the Many contains the One:
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                        • vinnie97
                          Are you Kidding me??
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 3454

                          #72
                          Re: The Obama Impeachment

                          I won't give him the pleasure of clicking on his bullshit. He will carry water until he drowns.

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                          • floridaorange
                            I'm merely a humble butler
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 29116

                            #73
                            Re: The Obama Impeachment

                            The world has changed Vincent, time to adapt or continue to get more angry.

                            It was fun while it lasted...

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                            • vinnie97
                              Are you Kidding me??
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 3454

                              #74
                              Re: The Obama Impeachment

                              It has only changed in that open corruption and faux transparency is acceptable, black is white, up is down and the constitution is valued less than a piece of toilet paper. It's not a brave new world I want any part of it and I will fight it to the death.

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                              • res0nat0r
                                Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
                                • May 2006
                                • 14475

                                #75
                                Re: The Obama Impeachment

                                Originally posted by vinnie97
                                It has only changed in that open corruption is acceptable, black is white and up is down. It's not a brave new world I want any part of it and I will piss and moan about it on a message board about dance music.
                                fixed

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