The Enemy Within

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  • vinnie97
    Are you Kidding me??
    • Jul 2007
    • 3454

    #16
    Re: The Enemy Within

    I don't see a conspiracy around every single Israel-related development, sorry, dig (moving the embassy to Jerusalem, et al).

    Also, third parties haven't had any sway here in what seems like centuries. He is building a libertarian-minded movement for the future and making sure the agenda does not get shut out at the convention by picking up a preponderance of delegates. The message he's spreading is not a waste, as the exuberance (and sheer numbers) on display at his speeches has shown repeatedly.

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    • dig72
      Gold Gabber
      • Nov 2004
      • 882

      #17
      Re: The Enemy Within

      You need not apologise for the ugly truths that are out there for all to see. And throwing around the word 'conspriracy' won't change them either.

      Agreed, third parties haven't had the desired effect as of yet, but I also believe that we're on a road to nowhere with the current two party system.

      Yes, Ron Paul's message is not a waste of time, it's just that it is being delivered via the Republican Party and therein lies the problem.

      What other options do we have?
      “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
      Marcus Tullius Cicero

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      • Jenks
        I'm kind of a big deal.
        • Jun 2004
        • 10250

        #18
        Re: The Enemy Within

        Originally posted by dig72
        What other options do we have?
        Party!


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        • clintlove
          Hey girl, ya Hungry?
          • Jun 2004
          • 3264

          #19
          Re: The Enemy Within


          Music is the answer, to your problems. Keep on movin', till you solve them.

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          • vinnie97
            Are you Kidding me??
            • Jul 2007
            • 3454

            #20
            Re: The Enemy Within

            I agree with you on everything except the Jerusalem comment, dig. The back-and-forth hostilities in that area of the world have long been overseen by world powers, and this is just a continuation of that.

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            • dig72
              Gold Gabber
              • Nov 2004
              • 882

              #21
              Re: The Enemy Within

              That's cool vinnie, constuctive debate/discussion is healthy and believe more of it is needed.



              Ron Paul presented himself to be incorruptable and a man unwilling to sell out for either money or votes. He is also very well known for his continued belief and acceptance of the rule of law, no?

              He obviously isn't stupid and also understands full well the problems going on over there in the Middle East, especially that of the Israelies and Palestinians.

              So why on earth would he make such an absurd and out of character comment like that?



              Under international law, Israel has absolutely ZERO legal sovereignty of any part of Jerusalem be it east or west. Period.

              Jerusalem is occupied territory and everything from settlements, separation wall, annexing ect, not only violate the Geneva Conventions but are also in breach of international law. This explains why the US embassy in Israel is located in Tel Aviv and not Jerusalem.

              These are irrefutable facts.


              I believe that for whatever reasons, Ron Paul has finally succumed to AIPAC and other like minded lobby groups, simply because nothing else makes any real sense.


              Maybe you could have a go?
              “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
              Marcus Tullius Cicero

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