Remaining silent IS ILLEGAL in the USA !!!!

[FM]

The justices upheld a Nevada cattle rancher's misdemeanor conviction. He was arrested after he told a deputy that he didn't have to reveal his name or show an ID during an encounter on a rural road in 2000.

It's kind of double-edged...you don't really have to reveal yourself...but man for the love of all that is holy and whatnot, if you get pulled over by an officer on the road, the FIRST thing they ask you for?

"License and registration..."

And guess what happens if you don't comply or start acting like a jackass.

Yes. They think you have something to hide.

So thanks to this simple, bull-headed-minded MORON, instead of just complying, showing the ID and then probably getting a simple ticket (which is 10 times easier to fight in court), he tried to fight the whole system...and the system gained another W in the use of more broad powers.

[mylexicon]

A simple revamp of our justice system would never work. Instead it would require that 50% of America realize that the methods they've been seeking for the governing of this country have given 'Big Brother' to much power of the individuals life. If somehow you were able to force a complete reorginization of the American Justice system in five years it would once again be mired in beuracratic . Quite simply Uncle Sam now feels that he has the right to meddle in every individuals life and that rights so long held as cornerstones of this nation can be manipulated to better fit his needs. Now quite unfortunately nasserd is right about one thing the question is what to do a thousand theories but no answer at least not a quick and easy one. However, I would like to point out that by the sheer numbers of American posters in the politics section of this board we quite obviously don't fit into any of his other overgeneralized catagories.

Very well said.

Big government politicians (mainly dems) have been looking for ways to
improve the ways people live by enlarging and centralizing gov. power. For
damn near 1/2 century intelligent Americans who believe in preserving the
spirit of the constitution have told them that their overly zealous idealism and
blatant disregard for the past would cause problems for everyone everywhere.

Well America here they are. And electing another dem. especially a French one
isn't going to solve anything. Power this vast will corrupt whether its possessed by
Bush or Kerry. Their is only one party left that still consistently votes to
downsize the massive budget that gives Uncle Sam his domestic omnipotence.
1.6 trillion wasn't enough.

You spend billions of dollars feeding poor people and inviting minorities to this country
only so the out of control institution you have created can rape them in the
ass. Nice

So thanks to this simple, bull-headed-minded MORON, instead of just complying, showing the ID and then probably getting a simple ticket (which is 10 times easier to fight in court), he tried to fight the whole system...and the system gained another W in the use of more broad powers.

There is no doubt a little common sense could have prevented a lot of this
big gov. nonsense; but i think you'd be singing a different tune if an Arab
immigrant was the one caught in the middle of this. All of a sudden the
defendant didn't know any better and the evil cops are part of a right wing
conspiracy.

[FM]

^^bingo...unfortunately also, that's why you can't read and enforce the laws anymore in black and white..there's just way too much gray that comes into doubt...

[mylexicon]

^^bingo...unfortunately also, that's why you can't read and enforce the laws anymore in black and white..there's just way too much gray that comes into doubt...

Law is the elimination of gray area. This gray area you speak of doens't
actually exist. It is a perception that has occured in the mind of the American
public as a result of the Supreme Court flip-flopping on issues throughout the
last century.

According to the law the Arab offender i spoke of would be guilty. If the laws
were written clearly and remained unchange and uninterpretted except for in
times of extreme social crisis, people would be able to come to have an
elemet of certainty in their lives, and we wouldn't be in constant social upheaval.
That was the purpose of the Constitution in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The constitution was supposed to be uncompromising and adjustable. But
since we can't pass a fucking amendment in this day and age the constitution
has become compromised and unadjustable!!!!!