Lonmin Mine Massacre in South Africa

[nick007]

Lawlessness prevails in South Africa! We have the highest murder and rape stats in the world.

Greedy unions keep workers from work to satisfy their own coffers and ideologies.

Police are corrupt and increasingly under the spotlight for shooting hardened suspects wanted for armed robbery, murder and rape.

I presently have 2 friends in the police that have been charged with murder as part of the Cato Manor "death squad"

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/death-squad-cops-rap-sheet-grows-1.1326155

Who were investigating ties to hardened criminals and our president and his vast family who are tied into government contracts.

And then when we think we were just getting over Apartheid, the 1976 Soweto riots and Sharpeville massacre, the South African Police Service after a week in which 10 people died at the hands of striking miners including 2 policeman killed by their vehicle being set on fire while they were in it, kill 34 miners.

Warning - pretty graphic

I mourn for my beautiful country and wonder how my daughter can grow up here without some radical change in the mindset of the mindless masses who have this "entitlement"/ woe is me attitude who expect everything for nothing.

First politics thread/rant

[88Mariner]

Re: Lonmin Mine Massacre in South Africa

At what point are you willing to take the blinders off mate?

Are you serious about having your daughter grow up in that situation?

Yes, I am serious.

[nick007]

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^Soon as she finishes school I am sending her to her granny and grandpa in Canada mate!

[Frankiee]

Re: Lonmin Mine Massacre in South Africa

Sent your kid for 20 years to the mines and lets see if she would (or not) resist.


Read some Saul Alinksky, and you will know what a union is.

[vinnie97]

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^Alinsky has uses beyond the limits of the unions, all the way to the politicians that empower them. Unions have outlived their usefulness, by and large, and no one should be compelled to join and pay dues against their will or face death threats or any other violence for not submitting to a fat cat union boss drunk on power.

[Frankiee]

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yes yes. Always the same right winged rethoric. Fact is that the number of union density is almost equal to the devolpemt on a country. Countries in Scandanivia for instance have had a lot of union influence within the last 50 years.

The way you describe the union is the steriotype of a right-wing executive on we all agree that's bad.

[floridaorange]

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The way you describe the union is the steriotype of a right-wing executive on we all agree that's bad.

thats because he's a far right winger

[vinnie97]

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^Don't speak for me, thanks, far left-winger.

yes yes. Always the same right winged rethoric. Fact is that the number of union density is almost equal to the devolpemt on a country. Countries in Scandanivia for instance have had a lot of union influence within the last 50 years.

The way you describe the union is the steriotype of a right-wing executive on we all agree that's bad.

So you think Alinksy is a positive force and only see the good that unions have brought, ignoring the labor and workplace safety laws that have made their existence less of a necessity than at the dawn of the industrial revolution.

And it's not rhetoric. Absolute power does not choose favorites when it corrupts. Anyone who sides with the chosen favored union's way or the highway mindset is just as guilty of manipulation as those money-grubbing executives.

[Homegrove]

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I doubt nobody could call you a moderate without bursting into flames Vinnie.

[vinnie97]

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What anyone here (most of whom are pretty far to the left of the spectrum) want to label me is inconsequential to calling out union corruption (i.e. the case of Richard Trumka, current head of AFL-CIO, and Joe Biden's special DNC guest tonight). That is, unless you all want me to believe that only banks and corporations are susceptible to money laundering, murder and malfeasance, in which case I will gladly accept the right-wing label. When political spectrum labeling takes precedence over truth, there is a real credibility problem.

[Homegrove]

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I think Jimmy Hoffa would agree with you. Were he not probably residing in a cement works of some bridge at the moment.

[vinnie97]

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You might not believe it, but I'm pretty pissed Bernie Madoff is the only financial criminal in prison from the era of fleecing that has brought us to the current precipice. Even when Reagan was at the helm in the 80s, there were more "thieves in suits" getting ousted and locked up for their misdeeds.