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Since repubs think they know what is best for all women in this country they will just have all the babies and make all the food. in the kitchen of course since thats where they belong.
Because a woman won't have a choice to murder an unborn child, the she'll go back to "staying in the kitchen"???
Liberals ...
Buddy, women are going to have abortions whether it's legal or illegal. Induced abortions become much more common when abortions are illegal. I'm pro babies not dying also, but I'm not naive.
Why don't you comprehend that killing a baby inside a woman's body is the same as killing a baby outside a woman's body? It's a life and killing is against the law. Period.
Using your logic, might as well outlaw Condoms, Birth Control and Contraception then huh? Because, using your logic, going against what "God intended" AKA "The Natural Way" is preventing a life from happening, ie: same as Abortion, ie: same as shooting someone in the head. Wow....
Right? That IS your logic.
Originally posted by clintlove
If a person punches a pregnant lady in her stomach and the baby dies, that person goes to jail for life. But by your rational, if the woman decides to have an abortion and kill that same baby, its her right to do so?????
And Yes, that is HER and the FATHER's RIGHT to do so. You don't understand the difference between a stranger punching a woman in the stomach and killing a baby that she wanted and the FAMILY's decision to abort it due to various reasons? They are not anywhere near the same and even equating the two is asinine in my opinion.
People like you see no problem with family's going into poverty because they have 10+ children and can't handle them economically because only the mother or father can earn a living and oftentimes those salaries are not enough to keep those children in school and pay for basic essentials. I agree about personal responsibility but again, using your logic, they shouldn't be using Condoms, Birth Control or Contraception because that prevents a life from taking shape, ie: same as Abortion, ie: same as shooting someone in the head.
Makes perfect sense right? That story is only continuing the poverty of people and adding to the deficit of those children and the way they are brought up.
Originally posted by clintlove
Liberals ...
And I am not a damn liberal, I am my OWN individual logical thinker, thank you very much. Fucking annoying. Don't call me something I am not, you don't even know me dude... Just because I don't agree 1000% with what the Whacko's in their tax-free church's say every Sunday, that makes me a liberal? lol...
Why is it the only side that goes to name calling and putting people down are the Conservative Republicans? Can't you people have a decent debate without that shit? Fucking hell...
Last edited by ddr; October 27, 2012, 01:15:16 AM.
For someone who thinks I don't know a lot about them, you certainly seem to think you know a lot about me. You're funny, I like you.
I like how you completely ignore every one of res0, florida, and my comments and fail to actually try to debate us on something using your own logic and thought process. I guess some people just like thinking a long a straight line and when anything interferes, they throw their hands up in the air and yell wildly. Ignorance is bliss I guess?
I like how you completely ignore every one of res0, florida, and my comments and fail to actually try to debate us on something using your own logic and thought process. I guess some people just like thinking a long a straight line and when anything interferes, they throw their hands up in the air and yell wildly. Ignorance is bliss I guess?
Sometimes, I don't really have a whole lot to say to y'alls responces and sometimes saying nothing at all is the best thing considering what I'd like to say. I've said one thing, you all have said another. I don't agree with y'all, y'all don't agree with me. What's the point of dragging it on? It's not like I'm going to change your minds or vice versa. I just choose to move on to the next thing.
I'll humor you though, see below.
Music is the answer, to your problems. Keep on movin', till you solve them.
Using your logic, might as well outlaw Condoms, Birth Control and Contraception then huh? Because, using your logic, going against what "God intended" AKA "The Natural Way" is preventing a life from happening, ie: same as Abortion, ie: same as shooting someone in the head. Wow....
Right? That IS your logic.
Peventing life is not ending a life. An abortion ends a life that has already begun, period. Not sure how much simpler I can make it for you.
Originally posted by ddr
And Yes, that is HER and the FATHER's RIGHT to do so. You don't understand the difference between a stranger punching a woman in the stomach and killing a baby that she wanted and the FAMILY's decision to abort it due to various reasons? They are not anywhere near the same and even equating the two is asinine in my opinion.
Of course I understand the difference between the 2 scenarios I gave, but obviously you chose to look at it in the wrong way. It's about killing. Regardless of how that killing happened (violence or "controled") it's still killing. That's the point I was trying to make.
Originally posted by ddr
People like you see no problem with family's going into poverty because they have 10+ children and can't handle them economically because only the mother or father can earn a living and oftentimes those salaries are not enough to keep those children in school and pay for basic essentials. I agree about personal responsibility but again, using your logic, they shouldn't be using Condoms, Birth Control or Contraception because that prevents a life from taking shape, ie: same as Abortion, ie: same as shooting someone in the head.
Makes perfect sense right? That story is only continuing the poverty of people and adding to the deficit of those children and the way they are brought up.
Dude, I don't even know what to say about this dribble that came out of your head. Did I mention anything about birth control or condomns, no. You chose to put those words into my "logic". I do have to agree with you though. Personal responsibiltity is something all people need to take into consideration before they get themselves in a situation that they can't handle.
Originally posted by ddr
And I am not a damn liberal, I am my OWN individual logical thinker, thank you very much. Fucking annoying. Don't call me something I am not, you don't even know me dude... Just because I don't agree 1000% with what the Whacko's in their tax-free church's say every Sunday, that makes me a liberal? lol...
Why is it the only side that goes to name calling and putting people down are the Conservative Republicans? Can't you people have a decent debate without that shit? Fucking hell...
Ok, ok, calm down tonto. Excuse me for grouping liberals and democrats in the same category. Its totally different from the way you group conservatives and republicans as the same people.... right? Totally different....
"Whacko's in their tax-free church's" that's a good one, I'll have to remember that.
Originally posted by res0nat0r
Yes...I bet most women in the USA don't think gov't should be legislating something like abortion.
Can we agree that murder is wrong? Wew .......... I just googled abortion photos so I could post a photo on here for you, hoping that maybe it would open your eyes to what happens to a baby during an abortion. I'll spare you though, they're pretty disturbing. As a father of a beautiful 2 year old daughter, I can't image ending her life before she was born because my wife and I weren't "ready" to have a child. That is the case in the majority of abortions you know. People who conceived a child just don't want to have one, so they kill it. Truly sickening? How can anyone see that as ok? It's the mother and father's decision to kill the unborn baby and that should be legal??? Just because a baby hasn't been born yet, doesn't mean it's not alive. Out of sight, out of mind for pro-choicers I guess.
Now this may shock you, but in cases of rape or if carrying a baby to full term will result in major health problems or death, then I believe it's up the woman and her doctors to make the best decision. I don't agree with abortion in this case, but I don't think it's the government's job to make that decision. These are extreme cases and make up a very small percentage of abortions. Still doesn't make it right though.
Originally posted by floridaorange
Buddy, women are going to have abortions whether it's legal or illegal. Induced abortions become much more common when abortions are illegal. I'm pro babies not dying also, but I'm not naive.
I'm sure they will man. Just like people do drugs, but it's illegal; people steal, but it's illegal; people rob, but it's illegal; people murder, but it's illegal; but not all those people get caught. There's a time in everyone's life where they have to answer for the decisions they've made; good or bad.
Music is the answer, to your problems. Keep on movin', till you solve them.
I do agree that there is a way better alternative than abortion, and that is Adoption. If you don't want the child that is growing inside of you, giving it up for adoption to potentially good natured parents who can't have a child through natural ways. So that, I am pro-Life to a certain degree, I just don't think we should make laws that force people to do something with their own bodies because what is next? Outlawing masturbation? Who is to say Life doesn't begin with a sperm?
Like some have said before and you have reiterated... just because something is illegal doesn't mean people won't do it. Having abortion legal makes it so valid doctor's who know what they are doing, using safe procedures, do it in a way that doesn't harm the woman having it done. Having it illegal forces it to the black market.
I'm pretty sure most 'enlightened' women in the USA right now don't want people in Washington telling them what they should or shouldn't be able to do with their bodies. Strange isn't it, not that women would think so crazy like that, but what in the hell are they doing outside of the kitchen anyway?
That's so funny coming from you, the notion that Washington shouldn't interfere with anyone's life. Apparently that is only applicable to women's vaginas
How...amusing.
No woman should ever be in a kitchen or at home. They should be out in the fields, out in the workforce. Permanently.
Again, thank fuck feminism has forced them away from watching reruns of the price is right and stupid daytime talk shows.
you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky
it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles
Also, I just want to add, for the sake of conversation, that I'm not pro-choice, but PRO-Abortion, given that most abortions will simply be one less democrat on average.
So ladies, please line up and have that fetus sucked out of you since the last thing this country needs is one more welfare sucking criminal.
you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky
it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles
Also, I just want to add, for the sake of conversation, that I'm not pro-choice, but PRO-Abortion, given that most abortions will simply be one less democrat on average.
So ladies, please line up and have that fetus sucked out of you since the last thing this country needs is one more welfare sucking criminal.
Lmao. One less person on the road giving me a headache and putting my life in danger in 16 years.
Also, I am pretty sure res0 was being sarcastic with that comment
I do agree that there is a way better alternative than abortion, and that is Adoption. If you don't want the child that is growing inside of you, giving it up for adoption to potentially good natured parents who can't have a child through natural ways. So that, I am pro-Life to a certain degree, I just don't think we should make laws that force people to do something with their own bodies because what is next? Outlawing masturbation? Who is to say Life doesn't begin with a sperm?
Like some have said before and you have reiterated... just because something is illegal doesn't mean people won't do it. Having abortion legal makes it so valid doctor's who know what they are doing, using safe procedures, do it in a way that doesn't harm the woman having it done. Having it illegal forces it to the black market.
Agreed, adoption is definitely the best alternative. It's likely though when given a choice between giving birth for adoption or having an abortion, most would choose the latter.
Again though, an abortion isn't something that just happens to a woman's body, it's killing a life that has begun. If killing is against the law, why is the line drawn inside the womb. I don't understand why that's ok or just a woman's choice.
I've never heard of a sperm fertilizing an egg on the bedsheets or inside a condom or on a stomach or on a face, or like Dave Chappelle says, inside the fishtank.
Music is the answer, to your problems. Keep on movin', till you solve them.
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