Farenheight Lies?

[evangelion]

LOL... not "playing the game" of backing up statements with facts?

Believe me, if you found the quotes, my opinion WOULD change. When I'm corrected or shown to be incorrect (which happens quite often!), I'll gladly admit to being wrong.

Man do you have a job or anything. Seems to me you have a helluva lot of time on your hands. Why don't you try to contribute to this community in other ways beside trying to make us believe what you do. There are no less than 6-7 other forums on this site...you might wanna try one of them out.

[delirious]

Man do you have a job or anything. Seems to me you have a helluva lot of time on your hands. Why don't you try to contribute to this community in other ways beside trying to make us believe what you do. There are no less than 6-7 other forums on this site...you might wanna try one of them out.

Yes, I do indeed have a job. A full-time job in the development of telecommunications systems. So no, I don't have a lot of time on my hands and that's why I stick to making a few, short posts per day. I think that if you quickly go through the posts I've made, you'll find that none of them are really pushing some hardcore political agenda.

Thanks for the tip re: checking out the other forums. When I find something to comment on, I definately will

Unfortunately the DJing and Producing forum hasn't been all that busy since MS went back online :?

[Jenks]

Unfortunately the DJing and Producing forum hasn't been all that busy since MS went back online :?

It's because people like you just go in there and read and don't start up topics, create conversation, pose questions, debate, etc.

If you want it to be more active, take part in creating discussion.

[cosmo]

One of Michael Moore's lies in the movie:

1) George Bush demands private planes escort the Bin laden family out of the US while the rest of the nationwide flights are grounded.


Truth:

Richard Clarke demanded that private jets fly the Bin laden family out of America after the 9/11 attacks, not Bush.



We can all agree on one thing; The last thing that Moore is looking for is the truth...

[Civic_Zen]

Also.

Moore claims in F9/11 that the only reason the US invaded Afghanistan was to build an oil pipeline. As if Osama bin Laden hiding there, and it being the capital for al Quada had nothing to do with it.

To this day, that pipeline has not been biult, nor is there any plans and/or contracts which would indicate that one will ever be built.

Trust me, once more people with more political knowledge see this film, Moore will be exposed for many more of these half-truths, and prolific distortians which he so readily adhears to.

[delirious]

One of Michael Moore's lies in the movie:

1) George Bush demands private planes escort the Bin laden family out of the US while the rest of the nationwide flights are grounded.

Download the trailer. In the movie he doesn't say Bush demanded the planes, but the Bush administration (which included Clark)

It's because people like you just go in there and read and don't start up topics, create conversation, pose questions, debate, etc.

If you want it to be more active, take part in creating discussion.

I think I'll be taking your advice

[Civic_Zen]

One of Michael Moore's lies in the movie:

1) George Bush demands private planes escort the Bin laden family out of the US while the rest of the nationwide flights are grounded.

Download the trailer. In the movie he doesn't say Bush demanded the planes, but the Bush administration (which included Clark)

Why is it that you only hear what you wanna hear?? Yes, thats exactly what Moore says, but the whole movie is about Bush right?? So any uneducated viewer watching this, meaning 90% of those that will see it, will take it that it was Bush's fault.

When in reality, Richard Clark was the SOLE PERSON responsible. That doesn't mean Bush, and it doesn't mean the Bush administarion. It Means Richard Clark and only Richard Clark.

But if Moore would have said that it was Richard Clark and only Richard Clark who issued this order (which would have been the whole truth), his film, or at least this part of it, wouldn't have the effect he wants it too. So, instead, he misleads the viewer to assume that it was Bush's responsibility.

Its just like lexicon said, you need to be walked, hand and foot, through this stuff to grasp it.

[cosmo]

Download the trailer. In the movie he doesn't say Bush demanded the planes, but the Bush administration (which included Clark)

C'mon delirious. We all know what the purpose of this film is. To bash Bush, not Clarke.

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In an interview with The Hill yesterday, Clarke said, ?I take responsibility for it. I don?t think it was a mistake, and I?d do it again.? ?It didn?t get any higher than me,? he said. ?On 9-11, 9-12 and 9-13, many things didn?t get any higher than me. I decided it in consultation with the FBI.?

[mylexicon]

LOL... not "playing the game" of backing up statements with facts?

Believe me, if you found the quotes, my opinion WOULD change. When I'm corrected or shown to be incorrect (which happens quite often!), I'll gladly admit to being wrong.

If you can find prove to me that your opinion would change after i found the
required data perhaps i would consider it.

[delirious]

C'mon delirious. We all know what the purpose of this film is. To bash Bush, not Clarke.

I know the movie is to "bash Bush" but I was referring to the alegation that Moore said Bush allowed the planes to leave, which he didn't.

Why is it that you only hear what you wanna hear?? Yes, thats exactly what Moore says, but the whole movie is about Bush right?? So any uneducated viewer watching this, meaning 90% of those that will see it, will take it that it was Bush's fault.

I don't know if the whole movie is right... that's the reason I posted this topic! I personally agree that Moore might mislead some uneducated people but that has nothing to do with the question of whether Michael Moore is lying or not.

If you can find prove to me that your opinion would change after i found the
required data perhaps i would consider it.

Well just wait, then. I rather debate with sources.

[mylexicon]

If you can find prove to me that your opinion would change after i found the
required data perhaps i would consider it.

Well just wait, then. I rather debate with sources.

I wrote that