Where do you fall on the political spectrum?

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  • Shpira
    Angry Boy Child
    • Oct 2006
    • 4969

    #31
    Re: Where do you fall on the political spectrum?

    Originally posted by thesightless
    example. legalize pot, regualte it like booze. DWI's, etc. but no more leinient stances when the freedoms are breached and cause harm.. you get into an accident while stoned or drunk, you better be ready to deal with the consequences. jailtime. and if you hurt or kill someone, you should be punished as if you were drunk.

    or another example, one which nearly landed me in jail, social rights amoung others, (protesting). if you want to protest, get a permit and stay where they allow it. while you have the right to voice your opinion, you have zero rights to, a. disrupt others lives (like sitting in front of penn station during the RNC and causing a few million people to be late to work, or screaming in my face which leads me to break your nose and get hauled off to central booking in manhatten)., or b. destroy property or prohibit others from thier normal lives.

    neither party has a monopoly on the "correct way to do things, in fact, we need a healthy representation of both sides within gov't. for various reasons. if the democrats had complete control on the economy, it goes unchecked and destroys small business. on the other hand, a complete republican control would lead to a downfall of union labor's abuses.

    things like immigration, i feel that the latin american illegals here within the USA, can stay, but they must file for legalization, and immedietly, and those who dont, must leave ASAP. you are here, do things the way we do them. and furthermore, base the penalties on the businesses here when the openly ignore the laws. dont send a few million latins to jail, just deport them. more than half of the latin american GDV (gross domestic value) is from american money tax free, while they continue to utilize our roads, socail services and shools. change the law about birthing a child here, so that illegals who openly work without parpers and taxation must leave, even with children here, this can be done through the already established shool systems and social workers. if you attend school, your parents must show their social security numbers. if not, report them.

    one other big thing i think about often is what really "grinds my gears" is the social welfare programs, i have a few major points, 1. illegals cant have it. not at all. you dont pay in, you cant receive.. 2. and this is the republican side of me, limit it. limit it to 3 months at a time, and you can only file for 24 months in a lifetime with no two periods of 3 full months occuring within one calendar year. this will encourage people to look for jobs, even mcdonalds pays minimum wage. and 3. help them find jobs, dont just check to see if they are looking, but keep your eyes open, and point them in the direction of a job. after that, say goodbye to all social payments unless they are a result of mental or physical retardation and the person is incapable of work. this will not apply to drug addicts. if you are disabled due to drug use, its your own fault.

    man you are right about quite a bit here but your example is wrong DWI is an aggravating circumstance not a mitigating one in a Court case
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    • thesightless
      Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
      • Jun 2004
      • 13567

      #32
      Re: Where do you fall on the political spectrum?

      not at all. a car, often times, is far more deadly than any gun can be. personally i saw an entire family wiped out in one shot because some asshole was wasted driving the wrong way on the southrn state parkway. http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ews&id=4623873

      you know what you are doing, so bear the responsibility, this utter lack of understanding is why the US has such a high DWI rate. i say lower the drinking age to 18, let people handle themselves with some responsibility once and for all. yes, certain cases will always be "circumstancial", which is why we need to enact laws based upon blood alchohol levels, so that the guy who has a beer with his steak isnt tried like the guy goes to a bar for 8 hours and drives the wrong way on a highway, but also, we need to allow people to learn to respect booze. if you give your 18 year old a buncha drinks, and drive them. that is fine. they will learn something earlier.


      until people realize tha tcompromise, along with the idea that you can do whatver you want, as long as you dont do it to harm another human, is the only way, we wont get anywhere.

      great example, and ill use my own beleifs on the topic is the gay marriage debate. there are a ton of factors.
      the gay side needs to realize that for all they demand that they be accepted, they cannot demand that other mentally repsect them, legally yes, but everyone who is anti gay is allowed to be. (until they do harm).

      but the so called religous right, is so off base on thier protrayal of gays it is sickening. how can a group of people, who stress equal treatment and peace between humans, deny a human the basic human right to a union. so what if both humans have a cock or a cooter. who cares. seriously, mike poto, and i love the guy, is openly gay, but does the fact that his boyfriend has a dick mean anything to me? not in the slightest. for all i care, they are two really nice people. and that is all that should matter.

      but on the opposite end of the spetrum, gays cannot demand a religously based sacrament called marriage, but they can and should demand every fucking right we all have. so why do as jersey did? (which IMHO, is the best idea) and give what we call civil unions, which extend to the GLBT community every right in regards to taxation, adoption, etc that any hetero couple has? if we want to be technical, marriage is a sacrament, and being gay prevents you from truly being a particiapnt in any of the three major religions, so therefore, they are not entitled to the sacrament anyway/

      obviously long winded and a bit simplified at the same time, but hey, at least i try.
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      • Localizer
        Platinum Poster
        • Jul 2004
        • 2021

        #33
        Re: Where do you fall on the political spectrum?

        Moderate. I'm stuck in the middle of the road so I get run over a lot.
        Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so.
        -Bertrand Russell

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        • apollo_1444
          Banned
          • Oct 2006
          • 485

          #34
          Re: Where do you fall on the political spectrum?

          Originally posted by thesightless
          you an asshat? definetly. ask those who meet me, and have actually talked to me. until then, shut up. i am quite liberal on many many topics.

          i unlike you can form an opinoin based on facts, not just feeling. i have shown that, you have shown you took one college level course in sociology.
          its all right mate I didn't say you weren't a liberal I just thought that it didnt make any sense get over it.

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          • Lorn
            Looking for a title!
            • Sep 2004
            • 5826

            #35
            Re: Where do you fall on the political spectrum?

            I agree with Jenks. It all tastes like Chicken.

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            • mgabrielm
              Fresh Peossy
              • Mar 2006
              • 45

              #36
              Re: Where do you fall on the political spectrum?

              It happens in Hungary, too. The 'right-wing' leader is considered very popular among the young population for some reason. He started his political career as the leader of a very liberal party, then in order to fill a power vacuum left by the death of the first prime minister of Hungary since the fall of the soviet regime, he somehow transformed himself into the leader of a now right-wing party. He gained power in '98, but lost it in 2002, and made an unsuccessful attempt at regaining it in 2006. The funny thing is that he and his party now say things even hardcore communists wouldn't dare. And he is still beloved by the same youth that have 'fallen in love' with him during his conservative right-wing stint. 16 year olds wept in the night of the elections as he delivered his concession of defeat speech in 2002.

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              • Kobe
                I wish I had an interesting User title
                • Jun 2004
                • 2589

                #37
                Re: Where do you fall on the political spectrum?

                I'm pro cookies.
                Beats are my crack.

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