Which pill would you take when you found out the Matrix was real?

[feather]

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WTF

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[floridaorange]

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[fatalfelix]

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I would take the Mitsubishi

[Dhar_2]

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[GarryX]

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Got round to watching Zeitgeist recently, that was interesting to say the least!

[floridaorange]

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kamal is your article in agreement or opposition with this article?

Does Quantum Physics Make it Easier to Believe in God?

If the mathematics of quantum mechanics is right (as most fundamental physicists believe), and if materialism is right, one is forced to accept the Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics. And that is awfully heavy baggage for materialism to carry.
If, on the other hand, we accept the more traditional understanding of quantum mechanics that goes back to von Neumann, one is led by its logic (as Wigner and Peierls were) to the conclusion that not everything is just matter in motion, and that in particular there is something about the human mind that transcends matter and its laws. It then becomes possible to take seriously certain questions that materialism had ruled out of court: If the human mind transcends matter to some extent, could there not exist minds that transcend the physical universe altogether? And might there not even exist an ultimate Mind?

[sbando]

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^BS. If anything, QM excludes a Maker and a Mind, because it's simply impossible to have one unless you try and measure it, which will screw the results. No cause and effect, no acts and consequences. Since current theories agree on the existence of multiple universes, the idea of a God is even more stone age magik.

[Kamal]

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More or less what bando boy said, Quantum Physics doesn't make it easier to believe in God, it makes it easier to prove he probably is just another living being that's probably older than the universe (since he created it) OR created this simulation that makes us believe we just burst into existence.

If you try to read up on what materialism stands for, quantum physics on the whole does not agree with it. In fact, they are at opposites because materialism (loosely) dictates that all the (physical) matter that there ever will be, already is, and energy is completely independent of it - when in fact, e=mc2 tells us that matter is nothing but the condensation of massive amounts of energy. So I believe the writer of that article might not be expressing what he wishes to in the best of ways.

Given that I'm not a mathematician of any sorts, I fail to see how they managed to drag the theory of many worlds into it. I mean if you believe in the theory of materialism, then how can you accept there could be multiple universes, which is a complete derivation of quantum physics/mechanics. And what does the human mind have to do with ANY of it?

Sounds like something Deepak Chopra would concoct, a hodge-podge of catchy quantum words riddled together to befuddle the listener.

[sbando]

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^Well said, since the Quantum world is so fuquing unfathomable outside of pure mathematics (REMEMBER: any other description outside of maths is just an attempt and a half-assed one), the quantum "hodge-podge" is a way to to justify any theory. Since matter is "CRAZY, man!" and weird stuff happens under our eyes (Enlightment), then anything, from god to ancient aliens, can be explained by QP.

Actually, it's not about matter or reality anymore. It's the fact that we cannot determine ANYTHING. Thus, the idea of a maker is pointless.

[unkle]

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I would take the Mitsubishi

[sbando]

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Great Gus/Hoff moment there.

[clintlove]

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I'd take both pills.

[nelinho]

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Just two pills? Well same as above, have both at once & go try & find another 5 to make it through the night.

Nah over pills now...

Heard about this potential computer simulation a few months ago on radio...was quite interesting...it got quite deep.