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  • sbando
    Going back to Romford
    • Apr 2008
    • 11661

    #16
    Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

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    Last edited by sbando; March 19, 2013, 11:14:28 PM.
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    • Kamal
      Administrator
      • May 2002
      • 28835

      #17
      Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

      Originally posted by sbando
      I'm quantum trolling, K., c'mon.

      Breton's apologue is quite accurate, actually. A particle exists everywhere until you try and observe it. Yet, two particles can have a special connection (changing one will change the other too). Even if they're millions light years apart. Information is transmitted at the speeed of light no matter where the two linked particles are (Quantum Enlightment, commonly used in everyday electronics, one day the basis for quantum calculators).

      Both Breton's story and Schrodinger's grumpy cat were the first attempts at explaining QP outside of pure maths.
      You're posting multiple quantum theories and presuming they are associated with Schrodinger's experiment. The quantum theory that explains the wave / particle nature of photons (or matter) is called "wave-particle duality" where a photon behaves like a wave when not observed and like a particle when it is observed. The "special connection" property of photons (or even matter) you describe is called quantum entanglement - as described by Einstein "spooky action at a distance".

      If I understood Schrodinger's experiment correctly, he was primarily trying to explain the wave-particle duality whereby opening the box to observe if the cat was dead or alive collapses the wave function of matter causing the radio-active material to decay into an expected state resulting in the release of cyanide thereby killing the cat. The experiment therefore hypothesizes that as far as the box remains unopened (or unobserved), the quantum state of the radio-active material remains in it's wave-form i.e. decayed or intact at the same time, thereby keeping the cat dead and alive at the same time.

      Just like my avatar - get it?
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      Jib says:
      he isnt worth the water that splashes up into your asshole while you're shitting
      Originally posted by ace_dl
      Guys and Gals, I have to hurry/leaving for short-term vacations.
      I won't be back until next Tuesday, so if Get Carter is the correct answer, I would appreciate of someone else posts a new cap for me

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      • floridaorange
        I'm merely a humble butler
        • Dec 2005
        • 29116

        #18
        Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

        Originally posted by sbando
        I'm quantum trolling, K., c'mon.

        Breton's apologue is quite accurate, actually. A particle exists everywhere until you try and observe it. Yet, two particles can have a special connection (changing one will change the other too). Even if they're millions light years apart. Information is transmitted at the speeed of light no matter where the two linked particles are (Quantum Enlightment, commonly used in everyday electronics, one day the basis for quantum calculators).

        Both Breton's story and Schrodinger's grumpy cat were the first attempts at explaining QP outside of pure maths.
        Mariner, is that you?

        Originally posted by Kamal
        thereby keeping the cat dead and alive at the same time.

        Well obviously .... no really wtf?

        It was fun while it lasted...

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        • sbando
          Going back to Romford
          • Apr 2008
          • 11661

          #19
          Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

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          Last edited by sbando; March 19, 2013, 11:14:40 PM.
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          • floridaorange
            I'm merely a humble butler
            • Dec 2005
            • 29116

            #20
            Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

            Originally posted by sbando
            I'm not fucking Niels Bohr.
            Then who are you fucking?

            It was fun while it lasted...

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            • Kamal
              Administrator
              • May 2002
              • 28835

              #21
              Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

              Originally posted by sbando
              No, he was trying to put in human sentences (still not layman's^) the so-called Uncertainty Principle. It applies to everything stated above, photons and particles behaving weirdly: until you try and observe them they're not only alive and dead, they're every state possible and everywhere.

              I was just joking, you silly! Just to chat QP a bit. Entanglement = slip, I was just quoting randomly, I'm not fucking Niels Bohr.

              I know you were joking, welcome to being trolled

              Btw Uncertainty principle IS a component of wave-particle duality.

              But since we are on the topic, how boring was the discovery of the Higgs Boson. I was expecting fireworks, quantum teleportation and wormhole creations popping up left right and center when in fact they said they found it, and that was that.

              Mmmmkay, next?
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              Jib says:
              he isnt worth the water that splashes up into your asshole while you're shitting
              Originally posted by ace_dl
              Guys and Gals, I have to hurry/leaving for short-term vacations.
              I won't be back until next Tuesday, so if Get Carter is the correct answer, I would appreciate of someone else posts a new cap for me

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              • sbando
                Going back to Romford
                • Apr 2008
                • 11661

                #22
                Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

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                Last edited by sbando; March 19, 2013, 11:14:50 PM.
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                • sbando
                  Going back to Romford
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 11661

                  #23
                  Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

                  Originally posted by floridaorange
                  then who are you fucking?
                  ym?
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                  • trick12
                    Are you Kidding me??
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 4412

                    #24
                    Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

                    y'all just physically trolled...classic
                    Life's pretty fast..blup..blup...We made it!!

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                    • sbando
                      Going back to Romford
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 11661

                      #25
                      Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

                      LOL, my idiocy is beyond forward-thinking. Progressive Idiocy.
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                      • Jenks
                        I'm kind of a big deal.
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 10250

                        #26
                        Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

                        Originally posted by sbando
                        Here's another one:

                        Originally posted by sbando
                        Let's debate.

                        The correct avatar would have been a sealed box. Inside the box, Schrodinger is liked and unliked.

                        Actually: there's is no box and, until you mess with it, Schrodinger is everywhere at the same time in the Universe.
                        Originally posted by Kamal
                        You're posting multiple quantum theories and presuming they are associated with Schrodinger's experiment. The quantum theory that explains the wave / particle nature of photons (or matter) is called "wave-particle duality" where a photon behaves like a wave when not observed and like a particle when it is observed. The "special connection" property of photons (or even matter) you describe is called quantum entanglement - as described by Einstein "spooky action at a distance".

                        If I understood Schrodinger's experiment correctly, he was primarily trying to explain the wave-particle duality whereby opening the box to observe if the cat was dead or alive collapses the wave function of matter causing the radio-active material to decay into an expected state resulting in the release of cyanide thereby killing the cat. The experiment therefore hypothesizes that as far as the box remains unopened (or unobserved), the quantum state of the radio-active material remains in it's wave-form i.e. decayed or intact at the same time, thereby keeping the cat dead and alive at the same time.

                        Just like my avatar - get it?
                        Originally posted by floridaorange
                        Mariner, is that you?



                        Well obviously .... no really wtf?
                        Originally posted by sbando
                        No, he was trying to put in human sentences (still not layman's^) the so-called Uncertainty Principle. It applies to everything stated above, photons and particles behaving weirdly: until you try and observe them they're not only alive and dead, they're every state possible and everywhere.

                        I was just joking, you silly! Just to chat QP a bit. Entanglement = slip, I was just quoting randomly, I'm not fucking Niels Bohr.
                        Originally posted by floridaorange
                        Then who are you fucking?
                        Originally posted by Kamal
                        I know you were joking, welcome to being trolled

                        Btw Uncertainty principle IS a component of wave-particle duality.

                        But since we are on the topic, how boring was the discovery of the Higgs Boson. I was expecting fireworks, quantum teleportation and wormhole creations popping up left right and center when in fact they said they found it, and that was that.

                        Mmmmkay, next?

                        Originally posted by sbando
                        I seriously wanted to count the shits I give about the politics involved into the Higgs announcement, I meant it, but by not caring I changed the results!

                        The man himself is still very prudent, the politics and fund-raising maybe rushed it.

                        Originally posted by sbando
                        ym?
                        Originally posted by trick12
                        y'all just physically trolled...classic
                        Originally posted by sbando
                        LOL, my idiocy is beyond forward-thinking. Progressive Idiocy.

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                        • sbando
                          Going back to Romford
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 11661

                          #27
                          Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

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                          Last edited by sbando; March 19, 2013, 11:15:11 PM.
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                          • nelinho
                            Are you Kidding me??
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 4530

                            #28
                            Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

                            Originally posted by sbando

                            Both Breton's story and Schrodinger's grumpy cat were the first attempts at explaining QP outside of pure maths.
                            you're making the assumption the cat is grumpy

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                            • sbando
                              Going back to Romford
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 11661

                              #29
                              Re: People who don't get Schrodinger's Cat

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                              Last edited by sbando; March 19, 2013, 11:15:22 PM.
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