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  • picklemonkey
    Double hoodie beer monster
    • Jun 2004
    • 15373

    #16
    Re: I Hate COPS

    Originally posted by lopark
    No, entrapment is when the police lead you in to a crime. As if an undercover narcotics agent walked up and asked if you would like to buy some drugs. If you walk to the undercover and ask for drugs, it's not entrapment because the undercover did not initiate the crime.
    "Hey baby, would you like a good time?"


    like I said earlier... fucking entrapment

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    • lopark
      Getting warmed up
      • Jun 2004
      • 88

      #17
      Re: I Hate COPS

      Originally posted by picklemonkey
      Originally posted by lopark
      No, entrapment is when the police lead you in to a crime. As if an undercover narcotics agent walked up and asked if you would like to buy some drugs. If you walk to the undercover and ask for drugs, it's not entrapment because the undercover did not initiate the crime.
      "Hey baby, would you like a good time?"


      like I said earlier... fucking entrapment
      If your referring to your post about the prositution sting, the guy would have had to ask the undercover first. If the undercover make the first offer, then yes, that would have been entrapment. I don't think I've seen that episode so I can't say which it was.

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      • skahound
        Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
        • Jun 2004
        • 11411

        #18
        Re: I Hate COPS

        "Something's rotten in the State of Denmark."

        I still stand behind my original claim. First of all, we do not know if the charges were ever filed and the people prosecuted. The only thing that we get to see is the arrest, which in these cases, might be wrong. Law, as I've studied it and continue to study it, is a philosophy of 'maybe' and 'it depends'. The bike story is just another example of how 'it depends'.

        Believe me, if I ever go into practicing law, it would NEVER be criminal defense law. But I can still agree that placing a bike, even though lopark is right that technically this is not entrapment, it is still a fine line.
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        • bananapeel
          Addiction started
          • Jun 2004
          • 471

          #19
          Re: I Hate COPS

          How does a show like this stay on air for so long? How long has it been on TV by the way? I would venture to guess for more than 10 years it's been on Fox.

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          • cyrus32
            Gold Gabber
            • Jul 2004
            • 510

            #20
            Re: I Hate COPS

            Bad Boys, Bad Boys, what ya gonna do? what ya gonna do when they come for you?

            cant always hate on cops. you hate them when they mess with u, but u need them when some shit goes down in ur neighborhood. all in all they are just doin their jobs, they are already under enough stress as it is, GIVE'EM a BREAK
            Edited - Bossy to racey for work

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            • evangelion
              Platinum Poster
              • Jun 2004
              • 1999

              #21
              Re: I Hate COPS

              Recent cop story:

              We're standing in line at the AAA and realize we can't bring our cameras in. Me and my friend are freaking because we have nowhere to put them, mine isn't even mine, it's my girl's. So we're walking around trying to figure if we should stash them or not. One of my other friends said he would sneak mine in, so I'm set. My friend (like an idiot, I know) walks up to 2 cops standing by the steps and asks if one of them could hold it and he could get it back from him later. The bitchass looks him right in the face, laughs and says "What, your gonna ask a cop to be your fucking personal assistant?" "No, I won't hold your camera." Then they proceed to stand there and make jokes about him as we walk away. Protect and serve, right?

              The fact is alot of cops abuse their power and are on some over compensating asshole trip. I realize they deal with shit we can only dream of and could lose their life at any time, but that does not give them free reign to be assholes because of it.

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              • picklemonkey
                Double hoodie beer monster
                • Jun 2004
                • 15373

                #22
                Re: I Hate COPS

                Originally posted by _evangelion_
                I realize they deal with shit we can only dream of and could lose their life at any time, but that does not give them free reign to be assholes because of it.

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                • evangelion
                  Platinum Poster
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 1999

                  #23
                  Re: I Hate COPS

                  ^^^ Only the truth, baby, only the truth.

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                  • lopark
                    Getting warmed up
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 88

                    #24
                    Re: I Hate COPS

                    Originally posted by _evangelion_
                    I realize they deal with shit we can only dream of and could lose their life at any time, but that does not give them free reign to be assholes because of it.
                    True, but I have yet to find any profession that isn't littered with assholes. It's not exclusive to cops. I would estimate that humanity is about 50% assholes. Most of them you don't notice because they're not assholes all the time. Same is true with cops, but since most people only see cops when they're getting a speeding ticket or being told what they can or can't do, people think they're assholes on a power trip.

                    I guess I have a different perspective because I know a lot of cops. Most of them are really nice guys.

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                    • Morgan
                      Platinum Poster
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 2234

                      #25
                      Re: I Hate COPS

                      1. This case is not entrapment, dirty perhaps but legal.
                      2. Most cops IMO were bullyed at school, hence the need to be in authority.
                      3. Majority of cops do a good job, if perhaps a little OTT most of the time.
                      4. Most laws are wrong, this puts the police in a difficult situation.

                      Good on them for targeting petty crime, if all petty crime was stopped then i'm certian just like in NYC crime overall will fall dramatically.
                      "Pain is only weakness leaving the body."

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                      • krelm
                        Addiction started
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 437

                        #26
                        Re: I Hate COPS

                        I personally don't have an inherent problem with cops - the ones in my city are laid-back as hell and have been nothing but cool in all my dealings with them - but something still bugs the hell out of me with this bike theft thing....

                        If you are FUCKING STUPID enough to leave your bike unlocked in front of a busy store, you deserve to have it stolen. If they are after bike thieves, just go to any university campus in America and bust the people who go around cutting locks.

                        This sting would be like sending an undercover cop wearing KKK garb into Compton and arresting anybody who tries to assault him.

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                        • skahound
                          Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 11411

                          #27
                          Re: I Hate COPS

                          Originally posted by lopark
                          True, but I have yet to find any profession that isn't littered with assholes. It's not exclusive to cops. I would estimate that humanity is about 50% assholes. Most of them you don't notice because they're not assholes all the time. Same is true with cops, but since most people only see cops when they're getting a speeding ticket or being told what they can or can't do, people think they're assholes on a power trip.

                          I guess I have a different perspective because I know a lot of cops. Most of them are really nice guys.
                          I know a lot of police officers as well - my brother is one. I will agree that most professions have assholes scattered throughout, but I think the point is that it's a 'take it or leave it' type of situation that we're faced with when it comes to law enforcement.

                          If I go into Wal-Mart and the woman behind the counter is a jag-off to me, I complain to her boss and walk out. I take my business elsewhere. Unfortunately that same sort of retaliatory behavior is not an option when it comes to a police officer treating us like low-life scum (as in Jeff's example). A similar situation occurred to me several years ago as I was walking through downtown Orlando. I came upon a crosswalk where the light was green to walk. Upon taking 1 step onto the street it turned to a flashing hand (warning pedestrians not to start crossing) so I took a step back onto the corner to wait. I then heard a voice behind me that said, "That's right, you better take a step back." I look over to see where it was coming from and there were 2 cops staring back at me. He then said, "That's right, I was talking to you. Try to cross you little bitch and see what happens." Where did this come from? I did my part my obeying the law and this is the way I'm treated?

                          I don't have a bad taste in my mouth because of this one incident. Virtually every other encounter I've had with law enforcement has been more than enjoyable, but I think we can all agree that there are some out there who's experiences have been less than desirable on numerous occassions and therefore, they harbor a resentment and hatred for the men and women in uniform.
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                          • fumanchu182
                            Angantyr The Ruthless
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 962

                            #28
                            Re: I Hate COPS

                            I look over to see where it was coming from and there were 2 cops staring back at me. He then said, "That's right, I was talking to you. Try to cross you little bitch and see what happens." Where did this come from? I did my part my obeying the law and this is the way I'm treated?
                            See that is when I turn around and flip them off, it is not illegal to flick off an officer anymore.



                            I have only gotten in trouble when I have broken the law, that is all. I leave them to their donuts they leave me to my activities.

                            Plus in Jersey City the cops have better things to worry about then me.
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                            • Pataky P
                              asdf_imo
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 1966

                              #29
                              Re: I Hate COPS

                              I hate also..

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                              • picklemonkey
                                Double hoodie beer monster
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 15373

                                #30
                                Re: I Hate COPS

                                Originally posted by skahound
                                He then said, "That's right, I was talking to you. Try to cross you little bitch and see what happens." Where did this come from? I did my part my obeying the law and this is the way I'm treated?
                                well that's what you get for being a little bitch

                                I've normally had no problems with cops, but I know plenty of friends that have been treated unfairly and I see it on TV all the time to know that they're something to watch for.

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