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  • el presidente Highsteppa
    Platinum Poster
    • Jun 2004
    • 1332

    Kingdom of Heaven

    Did you like Troy? Did you like Gladiator? If so, you might like this, but I found this more entertaining for the meditations on what faith means and the dedication of oneself and one's own faith to a cause that is corrupted and deviating from the true intention of what is trying to be done.

    This is a pretty interesting history lesson; King Baldwin IV (an uncredited performance by Edward Norton - under a silver mask) brokered and maintained a steady peace btwn the Christians, Muslims and Jews, allowing them all to worship peacefully in the city of Jerusalem. Orlando Bloom is a blacksmith whose lapse of faith after losing his wife and his child, takes upon the duty imposed by his long lost Knight father (played by Liam Neeson), after a rather bloody incident involving a priest and an a stolen cross. Despite not having any faith and a sense that God has abandonned him, he embarks on the duty that his father charges upon him.

    The film touches on divine right and the bastardization of it's meaning, often serving as an excuse for a power grab, greed or a variety of other motivations that are anything but devine. While the Musilm warriors are depicted as brave and honourable, they lack any real depth, and any true representation. Performances by Jeremy Irons (as the King's Advisor) and David Thewlis (acting as the Hospitalier - a guardian of Orlando Bloom), are more than adequate, but I wish they could have done more with the characters, as they offer the most important and most thought provoking parts to the film.

    The battle scenes are what Lord of the Rings, Troy and even Alexander offered - chaotic, brutal and confusing, but still with a sense of who's where and what's happening. Remember this is from the director who did Blackhawk Down, and did a fine job of capturing the frenzy of modern combat strikingly well.
    Score so far: Owned ZoverTard 8 times - twice in one week! Twice more in same weekend.

    More than six months later - he's still pissed LOL - check the last visitor - guess who the last visitor is on my profile page.

    His newest incarnation this week:♫♫♫♫♫♫
  • funky_monkey
    Addiction started
    • Jun 2004
    • 349

    #2
    Re: Kingdom of Heaven

    Is it as good as "Gladiator" was or worse?
    --The world is always three drinks behind--

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    • el presidente Highsteppa
      Platinum Poster
      • Jun 2004
      • 1332

      #3
      Re: Kingdom of Heaven

      I'd say a step below Gladiator. Didn't suck you in, but did ask some more interesting questionx.
      Score so far: Owned ZoverTard 8 times - twice in one week! Twice more in same weekend.

      More than six months later - he's still pissed LOL - check the last visitor - guess who the last visitor is on my profile page.

      His newest incarnation this week:♫♫♫♫♫♫

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      • Jibgolly
        Vortexuralizor
        • Jun 2004
        • 20773

        #4
        Re: Kingdom of Heaven

        i'd like to see this. troy was good, but brad pitt as Achilles was a failure. gladiator was fucking awesome. i recently watched it again. hope this one doesnt put me to sleep in the movie theater. how long is it?

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        • ted_turntable
          Getting warmed up
          • Nov 2004
          • 57

          #5
          Re: Kingdom of Heaven

          Originally posted by el presidente Highsteppa
          Did you like Troy? Did you like Gladiator? If so, you might like this, but I found this more entertaining for the meditations on what faith means and the dedication of oneself and one's own faith to a cause that is corrupted and deviating from the true intention of what is trying to be done.

          This is a pretty interesting history lesson; King Baldwin IV (an uncredited performance by Edward Norton - under a silver mask) brokered and maintained a steady peace btwn the Christians, Muslims and Jews, allowing them all to worship peacefully in the city of Jerusalem. Orlando Bloom is a blacksmith whose lapse of faith after losing his wife and his child, takes upon the duty imposed by his long lost Knight father (played by Liam Neeson), after a rather bloody incident involving a priest and an a stolen cross. Despite not having any faith and a sense that God has abandonned him, he embarks on the duty that his father charges upon him.

          The film touches on divine right and the bastardization of it's meaning, often serving as an excuse for a power grab, greed or a variety of other motivations that are anything but devine. While the Musilm warriors are depicted as brave and honourable, they lack any real depth, and any true representation. Performances by Jeremy Irons (as the King's Advisor) and David Thewlis (acting as the Hospitalier - a guardian of Orlando Bloom), are more than adequate, but I wish they could have done more with the characters, as they offer the most important and most thought provoking parts to the film.

          The battle scenes are what Lord of the Rings, Troy and even Alexander offered - chaotic, brutal and confusing, but still with a sense of who's where and what's happening. Remember this is from the director who did Blackhawk Down, and did a fine job of capturing the frenzy of modern combat strikingly well.
          THX for this Information. I think i will go for it. By the way: It?s time to make a movie also from "Hannibal" who was a roman killer!
          Good music makes my day.

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          • el presidente Highsteppa
            Platinum Poster
            • Jun 2004
            • 1332

            #6
            Re: Kingdom of Heaven

            THX for this Information. I think i will go for it. By the way: It?s time to make a movie also from "Hannibal" who was a roman killer!
            They were going to make with Vin Diesel in the lead, but it got shelved.

            Jibgolly - it's two and a half hours, but there will be a director's cut DVD with a lot more footage restored by Ridley Scott, he's gone on record promising a director's cut.
            Score so far: Owned ZoverTard 8 times - twice in one week! Twice more in same weekend.

            More than six months later - he's still pissed LOL - check the last visitor - guess who the last visitor is on my profile page.

            His newest incarnation this week:♫♫♫♫♫♫

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            • SickBoy
              Addiction started
              • Jun 2004
              • 496

              #7
              Re: Kingdom of Heaven

              jibs trust my judgement i gave you advice to watch troy and not alexander. watch this movie you will enjoy this movie very much i got lost a lil bit but that was just because of my girl trying to get in my pants. she says she liked the movie a lot but i think shes lying (i should kill her).
              she has ADD therefore she persisted to bug me but its ok, i love her.

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              • opiate
                Getting warmed up
                • Jun 2004
                • 62

                #8
                Re: Kingdom of Heaven

                i'm really tempted to see it, but ive heard its not overly great. I really enjoyed gladiator but wasnt a fan of Troy at all.

                Looks like ill have to see it and make up my own mind
                Guns don't kill people,
                People with moustaches kill people

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                • Jibgolly
                  Vortexuralizor
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 20773

                  #9
                  Re: Kingdom of Heaven

                  just came back from seeing this today. and i gotta say i liked it pretty good. Orlando Bloom definitely did not deliver a commanding performance by any means, but it was a good film. the battle scenes werent what i'd hoped for but decent nonetheless. i'll probably rent it again when it comes out on dvd but its not a 'must own' movie. at least in my opinion.

                  overall rating 7/10

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                  • SkinDeep
                    Fresh Peossy
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 26

                    #10
                    Re: Kingdom of Heaven

                    Saw this last week. IMHO, it's 'as good' as Gladiator, but I wouldn't give Gladiator more than abuout 6/10 anyway.

                    It looks great, the plot is decent, but it didn't leave me with any real emotion... I came out feeling like it was a bit half-assed. It's all about character development in an epic, and it was quite sloppy, and too fast-paced to give you any sense of any of the characters histories and internal conflicts, etc...

                    It was definitely a lot better than Troy though, Troy sucked the big one!

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                    • Localizer
                      Platinum Poster
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 2021

                      #11
                      Re: Kingdom of Heaven

                      I want a movie about mongols or persian invaders. I'm sick of the current crap.
                      Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so.
                      -Bertrand Russell

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                      • sooper
                        Addiction started
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 450

                        #12
                        Re: Kingdom of Heaven

                        OH WOW.

                        This movie really sucked donkey balls.

                        I've never been smacked across the face with an elephant's penis, but I imagine it must be something like seeing Kingdom of Heaven.

                        So boring, lame story - poor acting - plot holes galore - no titties - annoying battle scenes... holy shit, it's like Peter Jackson had some leftover battle scenes from LOTR and sold them out to all these copy-cat pieces of vomit-covered cow shit.

                        What I'm trying to say here is that it wasn't really my cup of tea.

                        ...cause I don't drink diarhea tea.
                        We are the ones we've been waiting for.

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                        • Jibgolly
                          Vortexuralizor
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 20773

                          #13
                          Re: Kingdom of Heaven

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                          • bernhord
                            Fresh Peossy
                            • May 2005
                            • 22

                            #14
                            Re: Kingdom of Heaven

                            Originally posted by sooper
                            OH WOW.

                            This movie really sucked donkey balls.

                            I've never been smacked across the face with an elephant's penis, but I imagine it must be something like seeing Kingdom of Heaven.

                            So boring, lame story - poor acting - plot holes galore - no titties - annoying battle scenes... holy shit, it's like Peter Jackson had some leftover battle scenes from LOTR and sold them out to all these copy-cat pieces of vomit-covered cow shit.

                            What I'm trying to say here is that it wasn't really my cup of tea.

                            ...cause I don't drink diarhea tea.
                            But this story is real histiorical scene

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                            • sooper
                              Addiction started
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 450

                              #15
                              Re: Kingdom of Heaven

                              Originally posted by bernhord
                              But this story is real histiorical scene
                              If you think what you see in any Hollywood historic movie is an accurate portrayal of what really happened, I feel bad for ya...

                              Hopefully you were just being sarcastic
                              We are the ones we've been waiting for.

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