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Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growth
Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growth
Originally posted by runningman
^^^ sounds to me like you grew up... don't give ecstacy so much credit. Yes it is a powerful drug but don't you think you might have just grown up a little??
It allowed me to deal with the pain that I had to deal with ... a pain that was otherwise too scary.
Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growth
panic attacks suck ... so are you going to ever take a pill again?[/quote]
no, and it was not a panic attack. i hate the idea of saying NEVER but im in no way interested right now. not even close. i got alot of great things from those experiences that i dont believe i would have otherwise gotten to....especially musically. theres no debating that really.
its like driving a $400,000 sports car. yes, its amazing and unique but it can quickly turn bad. put in the hands of the irresponsible and ignorant and its a recipe for disaster. thus, society just preaches NO DRUGS. gotta be head smart and street smart to walk the line to avoid destruction, addiction, and overall misuse. to just use it for the good it can do and not an avenue to only get f-ed up. besides, not many drugs even offer a positive side other than just messing you up. its alot to handle for most.
i think that chemical brothers track 'believe' is great the first time you hear it. i also think there should be more half naked girls in the clubs..for gods sake nothin else is open at that hour. what can they all be doin anyway?
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Health Hazards
Physical and psychological symptoms. Many problems users encounter with MDMA are similar to those found with the use of amphetamines and cocaine. They are:
* Psychological difficulties, including confusion, depression, sleep problems, drug craving, severe anxiety, and paranoia during and sometimes weeks after taking MDMA (in some cases, psychotic episodes have been reported).
* Physical symptoms such as muscle tension, involuntary teeth clenching, nausea, blurred vision, rapid eye movement, faintness, and chills or sweating.
* Increases in heart rate and blood pressure, a special risk for people with circulatory or heart disease.
Long-term effects. Recent research findings also link MDMA use to long-term damage to those parts of the brain critical to thought and memory. It is believed that the drug causes damage to the neurons that use the chemical serotonin to communicate with other neurons.
MDMA is also related in structure and effects to methamphetamine, which has been shown to cause degeneration of neurons containing the neurotransmitter dopamine. Damage to dopamine containing neurons is the underlying cause of the motor disturbances seen in Parkinson's disease. Symptoms of this disease begin with lack of coordination and tremors, and can eventually result in a form of paralysis.
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MDMA hasn't been available for research in the states. It's illegal to do so and the government won't do it. It's not hard for the DEA to say "just give us the negatives and we'll spam it to the citizens of the US," thus why the FDA has now taken testing control out of the hands of the DEA and allowed for proper research to be done in the US.
Look, bottom line is....everything done in moderation is fine.....know your limits, and if you can't, then you're a fuckhead....it's as simple as that
There are those freak incidents that do happen which make you think about what happened, but hey, for me, I don't do it that often but I don't mind doing it again if someone hands me a pill.
Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so.
-Bertrand Russell
Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growt
Originally posted by asdf_admin
Long-term effects. Recent research findings also link MDMA use to long-term damage to those parts of the brain critical to thought and memory. It is believed that the drug causes damage to the neurons that use the chemical serotonin to communicate with other neurons.
I hate to bump this but even more hate when incorrect data is posted as fact.
Pulling information from anti drug sites typically yeilds slanted information. The long term effects you made mentioned were a result of the Ricarte studies, who was paid by the government to conduct the studies, and later retracted the findings claiming the bottles were mislabeled by the supplier. He came under pressure from the German scientists who were conducting extensive studies and could not duplicate the findings. As a matter of fact they reported the 'damage' caused was reversed by abstinance for a period of 3 months.
In another blow to early theories that human users of the drug "ecstasy" are damaging their brains, researchers working for the German government's version of the FDA have published the results of one of the largest, most sophisticated studies ever done on the brains of heavy ecstasy users in this month's Journal of Nuclear Medicine.
The study compared the brains of three groups: 30 people who were currently using "ecstasy" and had an average lifetime usage of 827 tablets of ecstasy; 29 people who no longer used ecstasy but had in the past used an average of 793 tablets; and 29 people who had never used ecstasy.
Using PET brain scans, the scientists measured the density of SERT, a protein that is part of serotonin neurons. If the ecstasy users had destroyed parts of their serotonin system (as some researchers have suggested), then the SERT proteins on the serotonin neurons would be missing as well.
The results: Current heavy users of ecstasy did in fact have fewer SERT proteins than non-users. However, the difference was very small, on the order of 3-5%, and when the former heavy ecstasy users were examined, even that small difference vanished: The former user's brains were indistinguishable from the brains of people who had never used illegal drugs. The small differences seen between the brains of current heavy ecstasy users and non-drug users were apparently fully reversible upon quitting use, a trend seen repeatedly in previous research. (Visit Neurotoxicity for more information on previous studies.)
These results were particularly interesting in that they dramatically contradict an American study done by George Ricaurte (funded by the US government) which used similar brain scan techniques and ecstasy users with a similar level of lifetime use, but which claimed to have found massive (as much as 90%) loss of SERT. This huge discrepancy is both unexplained and troubling, as Ricuarte's claims were used both to justify outlawing ecstasy in the US and as justification for sentencing increases (in some cases making a dose of ecstasy ten times more severely punished than a dose of heroin.)
Secondly regarding long term memory, there have been no CONTROLLED studies which can prove your statement. Of one of the studies conducted, again uncontrolled (many were user subjects were using other drugs- pot etc.) proved otherwise. Of the user and non-user groups the top scores came from the group who were users. I can't find that particular study at the monent but here's something from yet another:
In research published this spring in the journal "Cognitive Brain Research" the German government-backed team of Gousoulis-Mayfrank et. al., tested the memory/cognitive performance of heavy and moderate "ecstasy" users vs. non-drug users. The results: Both groups of "ecstasy" users were as mentally sharp as the non-users. In the words of the researchers, "To our surprise, in our study, performance [in the test] revealed no statistically significant group differences[...]" The authors did however note that their tests did not rule out the possibility of impairment in other areas.
Of interest, brain scans taken while the volunteers underwent memory testing suggested small differences in how the "ecstasy" users were using their brains compared to the non-users, leading the authors to speculate that they may be using "different cognitive strategies." These differences did not correspond to the amount of "ecstasy" individuals had used and may reflect underlying demographic differences between people who seek out psychoactive drugs and those that do not. Journal ref: Cognitive Brain Research vol 16 (2003) pgs. 479-489.
As someone already mentioned, thedea.org is a great site for information. The stuff stated as fact has studies backing it. The owner of the site is also a moderator over at dancesafe.org. The link you provided is only more government propoganda. Here's a question you should ask yourself- if the government claims that it puts holes in your brain, causes Parkinsons, causes irreversable damage why is another branch of the government (FDA) approving studies on it (last I counted it was at 2)?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." -Benjamin Franklin
Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growt
Thank's for the info.
And yeah, that is true. If it has already been proven that it does all of those things, why reaserch it any further. And why would some scientists be lobbying to have it used for therapy purposes. Doctor's would knowing give their patients something that burned holes in the brain???
Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growth
Originally posted by Jenks
jeez. at no point did i ever get mad here you silly canadian.
so some inventor got taken advantage of, shit happens. people and industry get taken advantage of on a daily basis, that doesn't mean you can pigeon hole the entire field of SCIENCE as BUSINESS. I think we're talking about two different things here.
Jenks it happens everyday. THis is only one scenario. I just hope my invention isn't too big or they will suppress it as well like the others.
Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growth
Moderation people , moderation , besides some people are dead even though they claim to live the boring lifestyles they lead . I am going for broke , live life for what its worth , besides you don't live forever.
The man who has no imagination has no wings - Muhammad Ali
Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growth
Originally posted by BeachBum
Moderation people , moderation , besides some people are dead even though they claim to live the boring lifestyles they lead . I am going for broke , live life for what its worth , besides you don't live forever.
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