Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growth

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  • CrackedSun
    Getting Somewhere
    • Sep 2004
    • 114

    #61
    Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growt

    pill me up, bitch

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    • asdf_admin
      i use to be important
      • Jun 2004
      • 12798

      #62
      Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growt

      drugie.
      dead, yet alive.

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      • aeon
        Fresh Peossy
        • Mar 2005
        • 30

        #63
        Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growt

        I submit drugs to the FDA for a living and I think there are some inaccuracies about a number of things said in this longgggg string.

        1) FDA's job is review data from a drug company to determine if the drug is safe and effective. Thats it.

        Safe & effective is subjective. If a drug can help a small portion of a population with a rare disease with an effectiveness of say.. helping 2 of 10 of those patient the drug can be approved if the data supports it. "Helping" a patient is also subjective in some cases it just comes down to Quality of Life (QOL).

        2) The DEA & FDA work together to classify drugs.The adminstration in the white house helps to determine which drugs they want to be classified or re-classified. Did u know that pot is classified as IV just like amphetamines and mushrooms? Does that seem right? Not to me, but i suspect a number of large drug companies lobbied to get pot classified that way so the drug companies could keep some people on expensive drugs instead of people growing an herb in their yard for free.

        3) Do not expect the FDA or the government to protect you. I find it amazing that Ritalin and Adderall are readily available to young children with ADD (a disease I don't fully believe exists at all). If you didnt know Adderall is a mix of 4 amphetamine salts. Ritalin is methylphenidate, which is a amphetamine deriviative. Do I think the government is protecting these children from what can turn out to be a life addiction to drugs? NO. Did the drug companies prove that for a small percentage of children the drug is safe and effective, YES.

        So the long & short- the FDA's job is not as a policing agency. Companies can submit proposals (Investigational New Drug -INDS) for anything, including MDMA and GHB. The FDA's job is to determine if there data to support a claim.

        GHB is sold legally in the US as Xyrem for patients with narcolepsy. It was submitted as orphan drug, commissioned by the FDA. An orphan drug is a classification which allows a drug company to speed thru the approval process because the drug is useful to a very small population.

        There are and have been legal FDA approved studies in Eurpose on MDMA for PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder). There will be studies done with MDMA very soon for the military. In this case, the government is quietly requesting research be done cause of how many GI's that are coming home scarred from war.

        Regarding holes in the brain from MDMA. I have no idea if thats truth or just bullshit. Just for reference though- Doctors can tell if a patient has been taking Ibuprofen for a few weeks straight cause they show early signs of stomach ulcers. Hey its legal so it must be safe!

        In the end, I think that each person should do their own research on any drug they take legal or illegal. Know that the current adminstration did take a very hard stance on MDMA but in the last year the campaign against the drug has all together stopped. I wonder why?

        Oh' lastly- at one time in the US history cocaine was used daily, like sugar and flour for all kinds of ailments.

        Moderation and education- just cause u read it on the internet doesnt make it truth.

        If u made it to the end congratulations, clearly u don't have ADD

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        • being clever
          Getting Somewhere
          • Sep 2004
          • 160

          #64
          Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growth

          Does anyone remember that hour long "shocking news report" on Dateline or CNN about a year (or so) ago? It was a special segment shown primetime, which basically covered this entire thread (minus asdf's episode). I want to say it was Tom Brokaw or some famous reporter that hosted the show. Anyway, a news reporter risked his jobbie disputing the DEA's attitude/data on ecstasy use. Remember what happened to Dan Rather for falsifying information?

          A scientist, on this segment, disputed the government's research and said that he couldn't find any long-term affects of MDMA use. He also said the lost serotonin levels will replenish with time.

          I don't know what to believe anymore. I know the government had the initiative to ban ecstasy because, well, they weren't making any money from it. This is just the US gov't I'm talking about here. Can anyone tell me why other countries made it illegal?

          I just don?t know what to believe anymore.
          "He was always late on principle, his principle being that punctuality is the thief of time."

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          • picklemonkey
            Double hoodie beer monster
            • Jun 2004
            • 15373

            #65
            Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growt

            Originally posted by being clever
            Does anyone remember that hour long "shocking news report" on Dateline or CNN about a year (or so) ago? It was a special segment shown primetime, which basically covered this entire thread (minus asdf's episode). I want to say it was Tom Brokaw or some famous reporter that hosted the show. Anyway, a news reporter risked his jobbie disputing the DEA's attitude/data on ecstasy use. Remember what happened to Dan Rather for falsifying information?
            Peter Jennings. I have the video if you want it.

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            • asdf_admin
              i use to be important
              • Jun 2004
              • 12798

              #66
              Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growt

              minus asdf's episode
              leave me out of this.
              dead, yet alive.

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              • 13kickdrums
                Getting Somewhere
                • May 2005
                • 113

                #67
                Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growth

                exactly...it was peter jennings.

                if my brain still works i believe the overall impact of the special was that although the information spewed to the public contains distortions, no one knows for sure the impact that MDMA(plus the fillers..) has on our brains for the long haul.

                i was cheering at the TV that night because it did throw stones at the typical MDMA propaganda.

                however, if youve never done E then you NEED special reports, investigations, and studies.

                for the rest of you, you know what the hell its gonna do long term...unless youre already brain dead from it you know what youre in for.

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                • il manzo
                  Getting Somewhere
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 145

                  #68
                  Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growt

                  I quitted e. I will start to use them again

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                  • sheryar
                    Getting Somewhere
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 167

                    #69
                    Re: Ecstasy and anti-depressant drugs can block cancer growt

                    no no NOOOO...

                    the cia made ecstacy. they also made cancer. and aids too.

                    its all a conspiracy.

                    REALLY.
                    sheryar

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