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    Fresh Peossy
    • Apr 2005
    • 18

    the end of america

    The police state is here so enjoy your freedom while you can because apparently to keep the terrorists out we'll have to live in a communist country we might as well change the stars and stripes to the hammer and sickle goodnight comrades

    ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
    America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

    May 10, 2005

    JPFO ALERT: THE END OF AMERICA - MAY 10, 2005

    On Tuesday, May 10, 2005, America became a true police
    state. Your U.S. senators voted -- unanimously, with no
    discussion, and without even reading the bill -- to create
    a national ID card.

    The Real ID Act blackmails state governments into turning
    their drivers licenses into a draconian tool of the federal
    homeland security apparatus. If states refuse, their
    citizens lose such "privileges" as being allowed to board
    an airplane, enter a federal building, or apply for social
    security. President Bush is expected to sign the bill
    eagerly on Thursday.

    In three years -- by May 2008 -- this Stalin-style internal
    passport will be an American reality. But your government
    will have _more_ control over you than Stalin ever dreamed
    in his most violent, vicious, anti-freedom dreams. (See
    links to the text of the law and articles about it at the
    bottom of this article.)

    But that's only the beginning.

    The creator of the Real ID Act, Rep. James Sensenbrenner,
    smiles and tells us that his Real ID Act is all about
    "solving illegal immigration" or "preventing terrorists
    from entering the country." This is one of the biggest of
    the thousands of "Big Lies" we've heard from the tyrants in
    Washington. The Real ID Act is about tracking and
    controlling Americans. You. Me. Our children. Everybody.

    In May 2008, barring a miracle, America as we once knew it
    will be in ruins. It will be gone. And the rights of gun
    owners will be among the first scheduled for destruction.

    GUN OWNERS: PREPARE TO RESIST

    Here's your future:

    * You walk into a gun store, fill out your 4473, and show
    your government ID just as you now do. But instead of
    looking at your license and taking down some information,
    the clerk runs the license (which is likely to contain a
    radio-frequency ID chip) through a scanner. Your purchase
    is instantly recorded in your _state_ drivers license
    registry. The federal government isn't currently allowed to
    keep a gun registry. But no problem; the Real ID act gives
    them an open door into your state records.

    * Complete information on every firearm you buy will be
    instantly available to every police officer (and possibly
    every government employee, store clerk, or computer hacker)
    you ever encounter. You'll be an instant criminal suspect
    every time you deal with someone who has access to the
    database.

    * Just as travelers are encouraged to get background checks
    and give fingerprints to avoid some of the worst excesses
    of TSA screening, gun owners will be encouraged to get
    background checks and give whatever biometric ID the
    Department of Homeland Security requires. This will be sold
    as a "benefit," ensuring you'll never again experience an
    "instant-check" delay. In fact, Congress, the ATF, or the
    FBI might even "mandate" 5-day or 15-day delays for anyone
    not enrolled in the "Trusted Firearms Buyer" program.

    * The private purchase "loophole" will be closed, so that
    all gun buyers must make trackable purchases. (The ultimate
    goal is for _every_ purchase of every kind to be
    trackable.)

    * Buying ammo? The store scans your national ID card and --
    bingo! -- your purchase is registered in the state
    database.

    * The federal government or state governments can now also
    _effectively_ legislate limits on the amount or kind of
    ammunition you're "allowed" to purchase. Try to buy more
    and the database instantly rejects you.

    * The federal government or state governments can now also
    _effectively_ legislate limits on the number of guns you
    may own. Try to buy more, and the database rejects you.

    * Eventually -- after the federal government "discovers"
    the obvious, that national ID won't stop either illegal
    immigration or terrorism -- the old attack on "evil guns"
    will resume. When they want your .50 BMG they'll know just
    where to find it (because the Real ID act says your home
    address _must_ be revealed). When they want your evil
    "scoped sniper rifle" (you know, the one you hunt deer
    with), they'll know just how to get it. Ditto with you
    "Saturday Night Special" or your "assault weapon."

    * If you don't surrender your guns, well, then the
    Department of Homeland Security will cut off your driving
    "privilege," as well as your right to escape the growing
    police state via plane. You'll be a prisoner in your own
    home, in your own country. Or you'll be forced to function
    as an outlaw, operating and living a precarious existence
    beneath the government radar.

    PARANOID? OR PAYING ATTENTION?

    You say these projections are ridiculous? That we're
    paranoid?

    Well, frankly, if the Real ID Act doesn't make you
    paranoid, you're not paying enough attention. We ask you to
    consider the long-term impact of a few other acts of
    government.

    In the 1930s, Congress promised us that our social security
    numbers would never, absolutely never, be used for
    identification. Now, they're the key to everything about us
    -- and without a social security number you won't get a
    drivers license and you won't even be "allowed" to drive
    after May 2008.

    In 1913, Congress and the media swore to us that the brand-
    new income tax would only affect the rich. Well, how rich
    do you feel after paying 40 percent of your income (or
    more!) in taxes?

    This is the way government works. They've even got a term
    for it: mission creep. And there is no creepier mission
    than the mission the federal government has currently set
    itself: to track everyone, everywhere, and to control what
    we do.

    We warned you in _The State vs. the People_
    (http://www.jpfo.org/tsvtp.htm) that this was coming. That
    book is still relevant, still a good read, and still filled
    with information about what our future will be like in this
    new American police state.

    Be forewarned. Be aware.

    REAL ID: IT'S THE LAW AND IT'S CRIMINAL

    Please take a moment to go to this site:
    http://www.rebelfirerock.com/home.html. Click on the link
    that leads to the song "Justice Day." Listen to the music
    or read the lyrics. Here's the opening of the song:

    You're the boot.
    Stomping on the human face forever.
    You're the eye.
    Staring down on everyone and ever seeing all.
    You're the lie.
    Twisting all our minds into your whoredom.
    You are Death.
    You are war.
    You are slavery.
    You're the law.
    You're the law.
    You're the LAW!

    George Orwell was the first to describe totalitarianism as
    a "boot stomping on the human face forever." But in
    Orwell's day Americans would have had a hard time believing
    that the law -- the good old, all-American legislature --
    all those smiling senators and "representatives" would be
    the ones to plant their iron heels in our faces. Back in
    those innocent days, we imagined tyranny would come from
    _outside_.

    Well, tyranny is here. And it's a gift from the very people
    we so trustingly put into office.

    Tyranny is THE LAW.

    Is this a way to run a country? Tacking something as
    onerous as national ID onto a must-pass bill and making it
    law without any debate? What does this say about people the
    gun owners consider their friends? In the House, where the
    bill containing the Real ID Act passed 368-58, only three
    Republicans voted against it. Here's the final roll-call
    vote so you can see how your own congressperson voted:

    bin/vote.asp?year=2005&rollnumber=161#N (or
    http://tinyurl.com/cr3bj )

    In the Senate, not one person cared enough about freedom to
    vote against it -- or even to demand that senators
    _discuss_ it.

    (The Real ID Act originally passed the House in February as
    a standalone bill (H.R. 41 by a vote of 261-to-161. House
    leaders, realizing national ID would have been in trouble
    in the Senate, then added it to a must-pass military
    appropriations bill in a cynical ploy to make it almost
    impossible to fight national ID.)

    Turning America into a full-fledged police state was just
    business as usual to your representatives. And, just as
    Adolf Hitler scrupulously followed German law while
    committing his horrors, so your "representatives" and the
    bureaucrats you face at the national-ID drivers license
    bureau will also be following the law -- the Real ID law
    that allows them to enslave you.

    (To see what a real Bill of Rights leader would do, read
    the novel _Hope_ by Aaron Zelman and L. Neil Smith:
    http://www.jpfo.org/hope.htm.)

    WHAT NEXT?

    We have two choices now: Resist or submit.

    More than 600 organizations, from the American Civil
    Liberties Union to the National Governors Association,
    opposed the bill. Even the American Association of Motor
    Vehicle Administrators (which loves national ID and was
    largely responsible for an earlier attempt at such
    legislation nine years ago) criticized it.

    We can expect lawsuits against national ID, including at
    least one suit led by state governments.

    However, nearly all the opposition from state governments
    focuses on one area: They're upset because the federal
    government didn't offer them extra money to enslave us. If
    Congress bribes them with enough millions and billions,
    they'll gladly sell our freedom.

    Only one state, Montana, has so far absolutely refused to
    cooperate with national ID. The Montana legislature passed
    a law saying they would not go along. However, that will
    mean that Montana residents are barred from flying without
    extreme extra scrutiny or from applying for federal
    benefits because their licenses will be "non-compliant."
    Although we applaud the courageous Montana legislators, no
    doubt we'll soon hear many Montanans demanding the
    "privilege" of having a real national ID card.

    Ultimately, real resistance is up to us, as individuals.
    There are certain courses of action JPFO cannot recommend.
    But every freedom lover should be pleased if all the people
    who had a hand in creating Real ID act lost their jobs --
    soon. And those individuals who truly value their (and
    their children's) futures should seriously consider making
    national ID their line in the sand.

    We have already heard from many people saying they will
    drive without a license rather than submit to a license
    that has become a Stalinist control document. We just hope
    their resolve stays equally strong when they face a world
    in which it's impossible to buy, sell, retire, travel -- or
    buy a gun -- without national ID.

    We ask you to remember men like Alexandr Solzhenitzyn
    (http://nobelprize.org/literature/lau...970/solzhenits
    yn-autobio.html or http://tinyurl.com/at9yn ) and Natan Sharansky
    (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...biography/shar
    ansky.html or http://tinyurl.com/chwet ). Both stood up and boldly
    opposed a tyrannical regime in the Soviet Union. Both
    risked their lives. Both suffered horribly for their
    resistance and their protests. But eventually, they
    triumphed -- and the Soviet Union crumbled.

    We are in need of such people, and such courage, today. We
    cannot wait for _someone else_ to stand up and show that
    kind of integrity.

    We must become the kind of people we admire if we are ever
    again to live in a nation we can trust.

    G-d help us if we fail.*

    - The Liberty Crew


    ABOUT THE REAL ID ACT

    Text of the law: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-
    bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.00418: or http://tinyurl.com/3qdv4
  • Localizer
    Platinum Poster
    • Jul 2004
    • 2021

    #2
    Re: the end of america

    honestly, I'm in favor it. Bout time we keep track of all the fuckheads messing up our country. Typically God sorts em out but I think it's time we sorted them out. I abide by most laws and have no problems.
    Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so.
    -Bertrand Russell

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    • thesightless
      Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
      • Jun 2004
      • 13567

      #3
      Re: the end of america

      dude, its not that bad, you already have one, its called your drivers liscense. now its just got the USA written on it instead of your state.

      god i wish these people who cry about these things were the ones who caught 9/11 in their neighborhood. do you understand that in less than 12 years the same organization bombed NYC then flew 2 planes into it?

      fuck it, i wanna know that at least we are taking steps to keep them out.
      your life is an occasion, rise to it.

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      • MJDub
        Are you Kidding me??
        • Jun 2004
        • 2765

        #4
        Re: the end of america

        I really have no problem with the cards as long as they don't put the radio tracker chips in them. That's just fucking Orwellian.
        http://www.myspace.com/mjdubmusic

        You can't have manslaughter without laughter.

        "Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl."

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        • FM
          Wooooooo!
          • Jun 2004
          • 5361

          #5
          Re: the end of america

          "we're sorry, we can't scan your card right now because the computer databases are down...."

          bet cha that'll happen a few times.
          FM

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          • batman
            Fresh Peossy
            • Jun 2004
            • 19

            #6
            Re: the end of america

            Originally posted by thesightless
            dude, its not that bad, you already have one, its called your drivers liscense. now its just got the USA written on it instead of your state.

            god i wish these people who cry about these things were the ones who caught 9/11 in their neighborhood. do you understand that in less than 12 years the same organization bombed NYC then flew 2 planes into it?

            fuck it, i wanna know that at least we are taking steps to keep them out.
            ... do u really believe that this is a way to prevent similar future incidents ?

            ... the foreign policy US have, especially in Middle East won't reduce the chances, even if they take so many un-democratic action. Even if everyone and every movement is monitored .... there will always be for u "an enemy"! ....

            .... because, after all, it's all about money and honestly i wonder how much more brainwash can they cause by controlling media

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            • neoee
              Platinum Poster
              • Jun 2004
              • 1266

              #7
              Re: the end of america

              Originally posted by thesightless
              dude, its not that bad, you already have one, its called your drivers liscense. now its just got the USA written on it instead of your state.
              Not that bad? These will most likely contain RFID's and will contain information like your SS number, address etc, and gives HS the option to add additional requirements- like fingerprints or retinal scans. Sure sounds harmless, but what about when you pull out your shiny new ID at the store to buy a pack of smokes or alcohol and the readers now scan your information? Remember your address, social security number are on it. Now think about how they could create a network to track where you were and what you bought build a nice little profile on you. You can referer back to this post in another 10 years- I PROMISE it will happen this way. My work already does this. RFID entrance into the facilities, now implementing RFID login into workstations. Maybe it sounds a bit tin-foil hat like, but I work technology and see it happening.

              Originally posted by thesightless
              god i wish these people who cry about these things were the ones who caught 9/11 in their neighborhood. do you understand that in less than 12 years the same organization bombed NYC then flew 2 planes into it?

              fuck it, i wanna know that at least we are taking steps to keep them out.
              You really think this would have stopped 9/11? You forget so easily the people who committed those acts were here LEGALLY. Secondly we will only come to rely on this new technology. There will be more trust in the new ID's than the current ones. Just see how easy it is to get a fake ID online, badges, passports, drivers liscences, what ever you want. Sorry to inform you but the technology to spoof RFID is already here. As a matter of fact it easier to spoof RFID than say a smartcard since the smartcard can contain measures to protect if being hacked, just ask anyone who did sat. card testing back in the day.
              "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." -Benjamin Franklin

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              • thesightless
                Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
                • Jun 2004
                • 13567

                #8
                Re: the end of america

                this may have not stopped it, but at least they are trying to take steps to stop it.
                your life is an occasion, rise to it.

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                • neoee
                  Platinum Poster
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 1266

                  #9
                  Re: the end of america

                  Originally posted by thesightless
                  this may have not stopped it, but at least they are trying to take steps to stop it.
                  Again, the only people who will be affected negatively will be us. Similar to things like Microsoft's activation codes or the music industry's DRM it will do nothing to prevent terrorism (in M$ or the music industry's case piracy) and harm or hamper only those who are 'good'.
                  "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." -Benjamin Franklin

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                  • AntonyM
                    DUDERZ get a life!!!
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 6415

                    #10
                    Re: the end of america

                    Time to start sneaking into Mexico
                    Originally posted by Shpira
                    So came back last night...
                    Sven Vath was amazing...he played a god damn killer set...ended up going to that and came to at like 10 am in some whore house in south Amsterdam...no idea how I ended up there...friday was a bit of a blur got really drunk and visited several parties can't remember a whole lot to be honest hehe...saturday was probably the best day that I recall...started up in the nearest coffee shop and going from party to party...beautiful woman, beer and weed...finished the night by taking some shrooms and listening to an amazing elke kleijn set...sunday...i met a nice girl who worked at one of the coffee shops and ended up talking to her for like 6 hours...was supposed to meet her at some DnB party...but instead went for a steak and walked around red light district bars drinking and smoking...monday took it easy went to a coffee shop and took a taxi to airport....

                    All in all...I think I will be going back there some time soon
                    Originally posted by Illuminate
                    Let me get this straight.

                    So white-middle class Americans have been told by their Television sets to be fearful of:

                    1. Mexicans/Latinos from the South bringing drugs and killings n' shit.
                    2. African Americans cause mos def they are raging a race war and want to occupy America like how the plebs occupied Wall St.
                    3. Iranians/Afghans/Any one of middle eastern origin to be quite frank, cause you know Islam...
                    4. North Koreans/Chinese cause you know everything...

                    Am I close here?

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                    • Balanc3
                      Platinum Poster
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 1278

                      #11
                      Re: the end of america

                      You ever pay visit to the DMV and they refuse to give you a license because they think your are five other people? Hopefully this will relieve some clerical problems. Taking the power from the states and giving it back to the natl govt. However it will be quicker and easier for govt agencies to obtain information on citizens. I just read something about Patriot Act Pt. 2... and I'm really more concerned about the FBI subpeonas at the moment.
                      JourneyDeep .into the sound

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                      • Morgan
                        Platinum Poster
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 2234

                        #12
                        Re: the end of america

                        Amercia will be a police state soon enough. It's all about control.

                        Isn't Capitilism just plain wrong?
                        "Pain is only weakness leaving the body."

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                        • Balanc3
                          Platinum Poster
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 1278

                          #13
                          Re: the end of america

                          Yep.

                          If if weren't for capitalism, technology would advance at a quick and steady rate... instead we have to wait 10yrs for anything new to be released to the public. At least so it seems.
                          JourneyDeep .into the sound

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                          • sheryar
                            Getting Somewhere
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 167

                            #14
                            Re: the end of america

                            agreed.
                            sheryar

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                            • eye-p
                              Getting Somewhere
                              • May 2005
                              • 101

                              #15
                              Re: the end of america

                              as the founding fathers are rolling in their graves...
                              Peak Oil

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