Please suck less Mr. George Lucas , sir.

[themonk]

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(Hopefully, you're able to recognize sarcasm.)

Aren't you fucking clever, Lopark. Halfwit.

This kinda tells me that you might just not be able to follow the story. If you were, you might know it's a "PRE han solo" universe.

Fucking twit. I'm not talking about the chronological path of the story. I am talking about movies that were made LATER, ones without Hans Solo/Harrison Ford and the charm and grit he gave to the EARLIER movies.

I gather most of the people who are crying over it are in fact the biggest fanboys of all. They have their own ideas about how Star Wars should be and when things differ, they cry "this sucks" and talk about boycotts and other pointless shit in the belief that it will somehow force Lucas to give in to their mostly un-named demands. Perhaps, they're really not fans at all.

Lopark continues to shovel the horseshit. I don't have any idea how star wars should be, nor have i thought about the originals in years. I was not even excited when the new ones came out, but out of curiosity I went to see the first one in the theatre, and I almost barfed. 2 hours of a little prick driving his scooter around, and the rest a bunch of convoluted nonsense about trade embargoes. oooohhhh, now there's a potboiler for you. can't wait to see what happens next. as if this weren't enough, the whole mess is punctuated throughout by this fucking retarded JarJarBigs creature and his garbledghettospeak. Why do I have to be a "true fan" to recognize this as the biggest heap of shit to ever hit the big screen?

And what are these un-named demands bullshit? My only demand is that Lucas suck less. Short of that, I would at least hope, but not demand, that people call a spade a spade, and recognize these recent movies as an exercise in the production of mindless, spiritless garbage.

[themonk]

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instead of calling people stupid, please just prove the claims of a defunct storyline.

Nothing is consistent. For example, in the first Star Wars, R2D2 has to be lifted up into Luke's fighter by a fucking crane, for chrissakes. But in the clones, what is he? He's the goddamn chosen droid straight out of the Matrix. He can fly and is basically invincible. There is also no continuity between what CP30 experiences in these first movies and remembers in the old movies.

Or how about the fact that in the original Obi Wan says he hid Luke on Tatoouin at a remote edge of the galaxy to hide him from Vader? But in Clones, we have Vader going to the exact same house Luke supposedly gets hidden in!! Now there's a good place to hide someone.

I could go on for fucking hours, but the exercise is a pointless one. A story is something that grips your attention. The first movie was a long car chase and some silliness about embargos and conspiracies. There's simply nothing there but exposition.

[themonk]

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this is what someone else on another board said which i think sums it up quite well:

i think this one will be the best yet. what amazes me is that people who claim to be true fans of the stories diss so much on the newer movies. what you have to understand is this is fictional history lessons, they are not meant to be compared to the earlier (although later) films. the pantom menace explains the beginnings of vader and the reorganization of the sith. the clone wars delve into the republics first attempt at defending themselves and the turn of events that lead to the rise of the sith. the revenge of the sith revolves around annakin's descent to the dark side and the fall of the republic. lucas has been quoted as saying there are tv series in the works that will reveal details leading from revenge of the sith to a new hope. all of these recent movies really have been made to further emphasize the events of the original three releases; they strengthen the plots, characters and scenery. that is the real reason why almost everyone claims the newer ones are shiate - because they were never meant to replace the originals, only to thicken their plots and reveal some star wars secrets.

Are you taking the piss?

If not, do you mind my asking how old you are?

The passage you quote is as bad as anything Lucas penned for the love scenes. What I have to understand is that these are "fictional history lessons"???!!! What the FUCK does that mean? What I have to understand is that these are MOVIES. These are not made to reveal some "fictional historical secrets" or "thicken the plots" of the originals. These are made as an expression of megalomania, and as a way to make boatloads of money. Which is fine.

Nobody is so stupid to think that these movies should replace the old one. What kind of nonsense put that in your head? The only thing people want is a movie that can stand on its own as something entertaining, stimulating, etc. And these movies fall on their ass HARD, in every conceivable way. I can't think of any movie which is such an unmitigated disaster on literally every front. At least Matrix 2+3 had the occasional something going for them, amidst the pretensious, probably coke-fueled nonsense, but these movies have FUCKING NOTHING GOING FOR THEM.

end of rant.

[demonAfro]

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I think someone needs a chill pill

And...
*** SPOILER? ***
C3PO gets wiped at the end of the movie. At least attempt to pick holes in continuity where there are holes like, why doesn't darth remeber the droids that he built?

[themonk]

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*** SPOILER? ***
C3PO gets wiped at the end of the movie. At least attempt to pick holes in continuity where there are holes like, why doesn't darth remeber the droids that he built?

haven't seen the new one yet, but that's another obvious whole as large as Lucas's neck. i just cited two as examples--i can't possibly make a list of them all.

[BSully828]

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themonk =

[themonk]

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not yet, but maybe soon!

[supaz]

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Why is it that Chewbacca and Han Solo can understand each other, but neither speaks each other's language?

Why can't Han say something back in Wookie-talk? He just repeats what Chewie says in the universal galactic english language.

[socks]

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Do you know how stupid it would look/sound if Han Solo spoke ?wookie?

[Localizer]

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instead of calling people stupid, please just prove the claims of a defunct storyline.

Nothing is consistent. For example, in the first Star Wars, R2D2 has to be lifted up into Luke's fighter by a fucking crane, for chrissakes. But in the clones, what is he? He's the goddamn chosen droid straight out of the Matrix. He can fly and is basically invincible. There is also no continuity between what CP30 experiences in these first movies and remembers in the old movies.

Or how about the fact that in the original Obi Wan says he hid Luke on Tatoouin at a remote edge of the galaxy to hide him from Vader? But in Clones, we have Vader going to the exact same house Luke supposedly gets hidden in!! Now there's a good place to hide someone.

I could go on for fucking hours, but the exercise is a pointless one. A story is something that grips your attention. The first movie was a long car chase and some silliness about embargos and conspiracies. There's simply nothing there but exposition.

None of that means that the storyline is defunct, especially the latter part. That just means there's no consistency between old and new....The storyline is still the same and hasn't changed..

Annakin is the chosen jedi, Republic builds mass amounts of "storm-trooper" like armies, Palpatine is really the Sith Lord, Palpatine is controlling Republic, Jedi's are wary, with opposers or "Seperatists" out of the way, an empire can begin, Palpatine turns the republic into an empire and has control of the armies that were produced in Ep2, Palpatine convinces Annakin that he can save Padme with the powers of the Dark, Annakin goes bad, C3PO and R2D2 have their memory wiped out, Laya goes with the senator and Luke goes with Aunt n Uncle on Tatooine, Vader comes to be, Padme dies, Vader gets p'od, and the Death Star goes under construction.

i'm not a stars wars fan, nor does it take one to understand and recognize the storyline. I can agree that the full potential wasn't there and I would have liked to see more in terms of an engaging storyline. For the most part, the acting was poor, and the dialogue, as I've said before, was dry.

As for chewbacca, anyone who has a dog or any other obedient pet can understand the bond between man and animal...


and monk, if you're going to continually be an ass about this whole thing, I suggest you leave the boards for a while or we'll be happy to find a mod that can assist you with that process.

[sacredawe78]

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enough already...the movie is great

star wars rules...end of story

[themonk]

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and monk, if you're going to continually be an ass about this whole thing, I suggest you leave the boards for a while or we'll be happy to find a mod that can assist you with that process.

Don't worry, my mouth is shut on this topic.

But I think threatening to ban someone from a board simply for being obnoxious about a movie is slightly melodramatic. I would ban the brainworms guy first for churning people's stomach--that's much worse than a few insults!

[lopark]

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themonk =

Worst post ever!


Sorry, I guess my reply to themonk reads a bit more aggressively than I intended. Hence the oh-so-insightful "fucking twit" and "shovels of horseshit" comments. I just get aggrivated at people who seem to enjoy trashing the movies. I know people who were doing it long before ROTS was even released. And they just set themselves up to hate the movie. While you may not be the same as them, your comments are. I mean, do you really think calling it "the biggest heap of shit to ever hit the big screen" is fair? Comments like that make it hard to take anything you say seriously. That why the comparison to Comic Book Guy is so funny. Don't take it personally.

[cltbdcentersnare]

Re: Please suck less Mr. George Lucas , sir.

Honestly, haven't seen it yet, but the first two were pretty lame, this one looks a little better. I just got pissed off when the treehugging hollywood types were already comparing America's current political administration to the rise of the evil empire, before the movie even released. I swear, hollywood will find anything to attach their skewed veiw of the world to. Generally, I'm just sick of entertainment always having to infer some underlying political meaning, and Hollywood expecting the rest of the world to agree with them. As far as I'm concerned, the life of hollywood is about as real as an Emperial star fighter.

[evangelion]

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Nothing is consistent. For example, in the first Star Wars, R2D2 has to be lifted up into Luke's fighter by a fucking crane, for chrissakes. But in the clones, what is he? He's the goddamn chosen droid straight out of the Matrix. He can fly and is basically invincible. There is also no continuity between what CP30 experiences in these first movies and remembers in the old movies.

Or how about the fact that in the original Obi Wan says he hid Luke on Tatoouin at a remote edge of the galaxy to hide him from Vader? But in Clones, we have Vader going to the exact same house Luke supposedly gets hidden in!! Now there's a good place to hide someone.

I could go on for fucking hours, but the exercise is a pointless one. A story is something that grips your attention. The first movie was a long car chase and some silliness about embargos and conspiracies. There's simply nothing there but exposition.

Boy oh boy...where to start. Ok, it's like this man, there is more that happens in between these movies than could be conveyed in months of film. To put it in the most understandable terms possible, and not get you lost in a bunch of geeky side story, I'll tell you this...R2...are you ready...had his rockets....brace yourself....removed. There wasn't that simple. Before you get on the Internet and start slamming the man who's mind this all sprung from, do a little research first. There are no less than 50 books that fill in the back story between, and up to 100 years after, both trilogies.

As for Obi-Won hiding Luke in the same place he was in, are you forgetting that young Anakin lived not 20 parsecs (I KILL myself ) from that very place. Why would he think to look on his home planet for a son he doesn't even know exists yet??? Plus, I think you are vastly underestimating the effect that the Dark Side has on somone. He probably remembers very little of his life before converting. Remember this is his step brother and his wife that they leave baby Luke with, the only time he met them was when he was completely consumed in grief over the death of his mother. Come on man, you gotta give a little.

With all of that said, can you still say some bullshit about the storyline??? Sounds like a story to me...a pretty damn good one. George Lucas cannot be held responsible for your lack of knowledge about his story...so don't take it out in him. Realize that this story could never be conveyed in 3, 6 or 600 movies.

Thank you, good night.