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    Fresh Peossy
    • Apr 2005
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    Impeachment of George W. Bush

    here is proof that the president lied and had evidence fixed with the help of the british to go to war in the "after downing street memo" which was printed in the times of london please look at this site and sign the petition for impeachment here is the story about the memo and the reasons for impeachment



    MEMORANDUM
    To: Rep. John Conyers, Jr.
    From: John C. Bonifaz
    Date: May 23, 2005
    RE: The President?s Impeachable Offenses

    The recent release of the Downing Street Memo provides new and compelling evidence that the President of the United States has been actively engaged in a conspiracy to deceive and mislead the United States Congress and the American people about the basis for going to war against Iraq. If true, such conduct constitutes a High Crime under Article II, Section 4 of the United States Constitution: ?The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.?

    READ MORE In light of the emergence of the Downing Street Memo, Members of Congress should introduce a Resolution of Inquiry directing the House Judiciary Committee to launch a formal investigation into whether sufficient grounds exist for the House of Representatives to exercise its constitutional power to impeach George W. Bush, President of the United States.

    The Downing Street Memo

    On May 1, 2005, The Sunday Times of London published the Downing Street Memo. The document, marked ?Secret and strictly personal ? UK eyes only,? consists of the official minutes of a briefing by Richard Dearlove, then-director of Britain?s CIA equivalent, MI-6, to British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his top national security officials. Dearlove, having just returned from meetings with high U.S. Government officials in Washington, reported to Blair and members of his Cabinet on the Bush administration?s plans to start a preemptive war against Iraq.

    The briefing occurred on July 23, 2002, months before President Bush submitted his resolution on Iraq to the United States Congress and months before Bush and Blair asked the United Nations to resume its inspections for alleged weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

    The document reveals that, by the summer of 2002, President Bush had decided to overthrow Iraqi President Saddam Hussein by launching a war which, Dearlove reports, would be ?justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD [weapons of mass destruction].? Dearlove continues: ?But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.? Dearlove also states that ?[t]here was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action.?

    British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw states that ?[i]t seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided.? ?But,? he continues, ?the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea, and Iran.?

    British officials do not dispute the document?s authenticity, and, on May 6, 2005, Knight Ridder Newspapers reported that ?[a] former senior U.S. official called [the document] ?an absolutely accurate description of what transpired? during the senior British intelligence officer?s visit to Washington.? ?Memo: Bush made intel fit Iraq policy,? The State, Knight Ridder Newspapers, May 6, 2005.

    Why a Resolution of Inquiry is Justified

    On May 5, 2005, you and 88 other Members of Congress submitted a letter to President Bush, asking the President to answer several questions arising from the Downing Street Memo. On May 17, 2005, White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters that the White House saw ?no need? to respond to the letter. ?British Memo on U.S. Plans for Iraq War Fuels Critics,? The New York Times, May 20, 2005, A8.

    The Framers of the United States Constitution drafted Article II, Section 4 to ensure that the people of the United States, through their representatives in the United States Congress, could hold a President accountable for an abuse of power and an abuse of the public trust. James Madison, speaking at Virginia?s ratification convention stated: ?A President is impeachable if he attempts to subvert the Constitution.? James Iredell, who later became a Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, stated at North Carolina?s ratification convention:

    The President must certainly be punishable for giving false information to the Senate. He is to regulate all intercourse with foreign powers, and it is his duty to impart to the Senate every material intelligence he receives. If it should appear that he has not given them full information, but has concealed important intelligence which he ought to have communicated, and by that means induced them to enter into measures injurious to their country, and which they would not have consented to had the true state of things been disclosed to them, - in this case, I ask whether, upon an impeachment for a misdemeanor upon such an account, the Senate would probably favor him.

    On July 25, 1974, then-Representative Barbara Jordan spoke to her colleagues on the House Judiciary Committee of the constitutional basis for impeachment. ?The powers relating to impeachment,? Jordan said, ?are an essential check in the hands of this body, the legislature, against and upon the encroachment of the Executive.? Impeachment, she added,

    is chiefly designed for the President and his high ministers to somehow be called into account. It is designed to ?bridle? the Executive if he engages in excesses. It is designed as a method of national inquest into the conduct of public men. The framers confined in the Congress the power, if need be, to remove the President in order to strike a delicate balance between a President swollen with power and grown tyrannical and preservation of the independence of the Executive.

    The question must now be asked, with the release of the Downing Street Memo, whether the President has committed impeachable offenses. Is it a High Crime to engage in a conspiracy to deceive and mislead the United States Congress and the American people about the basis for taking the nation into war? Is it a High Crime to manipulate intelligence so as to allege falsely a national security threat posed to the United States as a means of trying to justify a war against another nation based on ?preemptive? purposes? Is it a High Crime to commit a felony via the submission of an official report to the United States Congress falsifying the reasons for launching military action?

    In his book Worse Than Watergate (Little, Brown and Company-NY, 2004), John W. Dean writes that ?the evidence is overwhelming, certainly sufficient for a prima facie case, that George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney have engaged in deceit and deception over going to war in Iraq. This is an impeachable offense.? Id. at 155. Dean focuses, in particular, on a formal letter and report which the President submitted to the United States Congress within forty-eight hours after having launched the invasion of Iraq. In the letter, dated March 18, 2003, the President makes a formal determination, as required by the Joint Resolution on Iraq passed by the U.S. Congress in October 2002, that military action against Iraq was necessary to ?protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq...? Dean states that the report accompanying the letter ?is closer to a blatant fraud than to a fulfillment of the president?s constitutional responsibility to faithfully execute the law.? Worse Than Watergate at 148.

    If the evidence revealed by the Downing Street Memo is true, then the President?s submission of his March 18, 2003 letter and report to the United States Congress would violate federal criminal law, including: the federal anti-conspiracy statute, 18 U.S.C. ? 371, which makes it a felony ?to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose...?; and The False Statements Accountability Act of 1996, 18 U.S.C. ? 1001, which makes it a felony to issue knowingly and willfully false statements to the United States Congress.

    The United States House of Representatives has a constitutional duty to investigate fully and comprehensively the evidence revealed by the Downing Street Memo and other related evidence and to determine whether there are sufficient grounds to impeach George W. Bush, the President of the United States. A Resolution of Inquiry is the appropriate first step in launching this investigation.

    The following is suggested language for this resolution:

    Directing the Committee on the Judiciary to undertake an inquiry into whether sufficient grounds exist to impeach George W. Bush, the President of the United States.

    Whereas considerable evidence has emerged that George W. Bush, President of the United States, has engaged in a conspiracy to deceive and mislead the United States Congress and the American people as to the basis for taking the nation into war against Iraq, that George W. Bush, President of the United States, has manipulated intelligence so as to allege falsely a national security threat posed to the United States by Iraq, and that George W. Bush, President of the United States, has committed a felony by submitting a false report to the United States Congress on the reasons for launching a first-strike invasion of Iraq: Now, therefore, be it

    Resolved, That the Committee on the Judiciary is directed to investigate and report to the House of Representatives whether sufficient grounds exist to impeach George W. Bush, President of the United States. Upon completion of such investigation, that Committee shall report thereto, including, if the Committee so determines, articles of impeachment.

    Conclusion

    The Iraq war has led to the deaths of more than 1,600 United States soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians. Thousands more have been permanently and severely injured on both sides. More than two years after the invasion, Iraq remains unstable and its future unclear. The war has already cost the American people tens of billions of taxpayer dollars at the expense of basic human needs here at home. More than 135,000 U.S. soldiers remain in Iraq without any stated exit plan.

    If the President has committed High Crimes in connection with this war, he must be held accountable. The United States Constitution demands no less.
  • eye-p
    Getting Somewhere
    • May 2005
    • 101

    #2
    Re: Impeachment of George W. Bush

    The case for impeachment will be built over the next year. There is more than ample evidence that all of the senior administration officials lied about everything in the leadup to war.

    Once there are enough votes in the House to pass articles of impeachment, rest assured that it will happen. I cant wait!

    I hope that these maniacs dont invade Iran or Syria in the interim.
    Peak Oil

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    • MJDub
      Are you Kidding me??
      • Jun 2004
      • 2765

      #3
      If it just so happens that Bush gets impeached, who would take over?
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      • sammwalk
        Gold Gabber
        • Jun 2004
        • 769

        #4
        Re: Impeachment of George W. Bush

        everyone knows that the president lied to start his war, and no one has done anything about it. we knew BEFORE he got re-elected. what makes us think people will just decide to impeach him now? what's the point? the damage has been done.

        million to one he doesn't get impeached. not even censured.

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        • thesightless
          Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
          • Jun 2004
          • 13567

          #5
          Re: Impeachment of George W. Bush

          its never gonna happen. but you have to admit, 2 in a row for impeachment trials doesnt make me feel even remotely happy about the gov't.

          i actually find it funny watching the far left trying to hang on for one last glimmer of hope. they are so desperate to take down bush they ignore what they should really be doing....rebuilding thier party which is even worse off than it was the day after the election. even i thought Dean was a good choice, but he is actually ripping the party in half. a lot of the party have a big problem with what he says and where he wants to go. and what's even more funny in a sadistic way, and quite sad as well, is that the far right feels what they are doing is correct. god they all need to be locked in a room for a few months without press so maybe they can actually accomplish something.

          the only thing i say about it is, why the fuck cant everyone get over it. we are stuck with the guy, why distract the man from what he already does half assed. i hate all the conspiritists and extremeists from both sides. instead of whining about him, work on a solution to get around the guy, and focus on next term. one other thing, the lying about WMD..... does anyone realize that we gave the baath party over 3 months to move things. think long and hard with out breaking a blood vessel about how long he booted out the inspectors and moved things around. the WMD's were there before the invasion, but in an attempt to cover his ass, he moved em. its not that hard to move shit in a truck and send it off to a neighboring region that cant control its borders.
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          • eye-p
            Getting Somewhere
            • May 2005
            • 101

            #6
            Originally posted by MJDub
            If it just so happens that Bush gets impeached, who would take over?
            Some of these names have changed, like John Ashcroft, etc...

            Here is the Presidential line of succession, as specified by 3 USC 19 (and the current officer holder):


            1. Vice President (Richard B. Cheney)
            2. Speaker of the House of Representatives (Dennis Hastert)
            3. President pro tempore of the Senate (Ted Stevens)
            4. Secretary of State (Condi Rice)
            5. Secretary of the Treasury (John W. Snow)
            6. Secretary of Defense (Donald H. Rumsfeld)
            7. Attorney General (John Ashcroft)
            8. Secretary of the Interior (Gale Norton)
            9. Secretary of Agriculture (Ann M. Veneman)
            10. Secretary of Commerce (Donald L. Evans)
            11. Secretary of Labor (Elaine L. Chao, ineligible)
            12. Secretary of Health and Human Services (Tommy G. Thompson)
            13. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (vacant)
            14. Secretary of Transportation (Norman Yoshio Mineta)
            15. Secretary of Energy (Spencer Abraham)
            16. Secretary of Education (Roderick Paige)
            17. Secretary of Veterans Affairs (Anthony J. Principi)
            18. Secretary of Homeland Security (Tom Ridge)
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            • eye-p
              Getting Somewhere
              • May 2005
              • 101

              #7
              Re: Impeachment of George W. Bush

              Originally posted by thesightless
              its never gonna happen. but you have to admit, 2 in a row for impeachment trials doesnt make me feel even remotely happy about the gov't.

              i actually find it funny watching the far left trying to hang on for one last glimmer of hope. they are so desperate to take down bush they ignore what they should really be doing....rebuilding thier party which is even worse off than it was the day after the election. even i thought Dean was a good choice, but he is actually ripping the party in half. a lot of the party have a big problem with what he says and where he wants to go. and what's even more funny in a sadistic way, and quite sad as well, is that the far right feels what they are doing is correct. god they all need to be locked in a room for a few months without press so maybe they can actually accomplish something.

              the only thing i say about it is, why the fuck cant everyone get over it. we are stuck with the guy, why distract the man from what he already does half assed. i hate all the conspiritists and extremeists from both sides. instead of whining about him, work on a solution to get around the guy, and focus on next term. one other thing, the lying about WMD..... does anyone realize that we gave the baath party over 3 months to move things. think long and hard with out breaking a blood vessel about how long he booted out the inspectors and moved things around. the WMD's were there before the invasion, but in an attempt to cover his ass, he moved em. its not that hard to move shit in a truck and send it off to a neighboring region that cant control its borders.

              This is wrong on almost every point.

              1. The "far left" is not desperate to "take down Bush". In fact AP/Ipsos poll this morning says that 55% of the US feels that Bush is doing a poor job, and that the country is heading in the wrong direction. 57% feel that the Iraq war was a mistake. How is this a "far left opinion?

              2. The democrats are doing a great job of FIGHTING BACK. Howard Dean won the office of DNC chair with overwhelming support. He is the first democrat to stand up for the truth in years. Since 82% of the GOP considers themselves "white and christian", why is it wrong to point it out?

              3. If this party is being "torn apart", why did Harry Reid and Richard Durbin invite reporters to their monthly meeting yesterday, where they pledged public support for Dean. The people making noise about Dean and the democrats falling apart are, for the most part, republicans or republican owned media; MSNBC, Fox, CNN, NBC, etc...

              4. If you think for a minute that our satellites didnt see the Baath party "moving WMD's" in the 3 months before the war, you are totally delusional. Also Saddaam didnt "kick out" the inspector, Bush Did! He gave them time to leave before we attacked. Further, when the US and UN had inspectors in Iraq they found absolutely nothing. Moving "stockpiles" of WMD with satellites and inspectors in country would be extremely difficult.

              5. The final report from the US government about WMD, called the Duelfer Report concluded that Iraq "had no program to develop or use WMD past 1991". Period.

              The bottom line is that Clinton had articles of impeachment drafted against him for lying about sex with an intern, while Bush has clearly lied about WMD's and every other thing, which has cost this country over 1700 lives and $300 BILLION.

              The sooner you start questioning what you see on TV news, the better informed you will be.
              Peak Oil

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              • Jenks
                I'm kind of a big deal.
                • Jun 2004
                • 10250

                #8
                Re: Impeachment of George W. Bush

                . Howard Dean won the office of DNC chair with overwhelming support


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                • face
                  Getting Somewhere
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 179

                  #9
                  Re: Impeachment of George W. Bush

                  1. i agree with eye here. it's not about "giving up" or "holding on" or trying to get bush because dems are bitter. it's about doing the right thing.

                  2. it would be ironic if bush were to be impeached, considering he just got reelected for a second term. he deserves it, but do most people realize it? who knows...

                  the first president to take us to war and still try to cut taxes. my hero!

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                  • davetlv
                    Platinum Poster
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 1205

                    #10
                    Re: Impeachment of George W. Bush

                    Originally posted by face
                    it's about doing the right thing.
                    Like it's the right thing to go after some despot dictator who was responsible for ten of thousands, if not more, deaths, who had a string of Security council resolutions against him to ensure he was disarmed, who hampered those investigations into checking his weapon capabilities for 12 years breaking the agreement which ended the gulf war.

                    It amazes me how so many of you forget who this man was and what he did, and the fact that Sadaam was a constant threat to world security. It amazes me almost as much as the inaction and appeasment of the UN at the time.

                    Say what you like about Bush, and Blair, going into Iraq was the best thing either of them have done for this planet. Its a shame that some of you cant see it.

                    The possibility of Bush being impeached for doing this is almost as insane as impeaching Clinton.

                    For a country that is striving to bring democracy to the middle east is it not a joke that this whole process of impeachment, leading to the possible remove of a President, is the least democratic thing you can do? In a democracy should the ballot box not do the talking?

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                    • eye-p
                      Getting Somewhere
                      • May 2005
                      • 101

                      #11
                      Re: Impeachment of George W. Bush

                      Well then is it OK that Bush lied?

                      By your logic, the US should invade Isreal; after all, Israel is currently in violation of 68 UN resolutions. Thats right, 68.

                      How about Sudan, or Darfur?
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                      • face
                        Getting Somewhere
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 179

                        #12
                        Re: Impeachment of George W. Bush

                        saddam was only a threat to his own people and nominally to israel. that's about it.

                        if being a threat to your own people is grounds for invasion, there are dozens of countries--some with and some without oil--that we could "democratize."

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                        • davetlv
                          Platinum Poster
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 1205

                          #13
                          Re: Impeachment of George W. Bush

                          Originally posted by eye-p
                          Well then is it OK that Bush lied?

                          By your logic, the US should invade Isreal; after all, Israel is currently in violation of 68 UN resolutions. Thats right, 68.

                          How about Sudan, or Darfur?

                          We're not talking about Israel here because the nature of the resolutions were/are different. If you dont believe me look at the difference between Chapter VI and Chapter VII resolutions.

                          Israel has not started wars with its neighbours, or invaded other countries. There is a clear difference between Iraqi aggression and occupation of Kuwait and Israels wars of self defence.

                          At the end of the first Gulf War Iraq had to open itself up to the UN to ensure that any programs of WMD were not only halted but any such weapons were also destroyed. For more then a decade he failed to do this.

                          Now if you want to ask did he have weapons. . . . well thats open to opinion and fact i guess. My hunch is that most of WMD were nothing more than fabrications, but by hindering the search for them he defacto caused this war, which in my opinion should have probably happened four or five years earlier.

                          As for whether its OK if Bush lied or not. . . well you have your own moral code, you decide. But remember, when we elect our politicans, we the people, know that the majority of them will at some stage or another be economical with the truth. Thats the greater injustice here, that politicans don't respect the electorate enough to be truthful with them. . . but I guess if they did then many of them would be out of work next time round.

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                          • eye-p
                            Getting Somewhere
                            • May 2005
                            • 101

                            #14
                            Re: Impeachment of George W. Bush

                            The nature of the resolutions are not the issue. I personally think the issue is that Israel is still in possession of WMD's, with tacit approval of the US.

                            While I am well aware of Israel's difficult position in the ME, as a country they must share in some of the blame. This is today more true than ever before. Sharon's hard line stance is making an already difficult situation virtually impossible.

                            Also, to say that Israel has not invaded any country is absurd. What is the West Bank? How about invading Egypt in 1967?

                            Now, with regards to Iraq's WMD's...this is not, "open to opinion and fact I guess". This is open to nothing. I have more WMD's than Iraq did. We invaded a country that was no threat to anyone. And now, we are losing our citizens at an alarming rate. This says nothing of the Iraqi citizens, whose death toll is estimated to be between 15,000 and 100,000.

                            And lets remember, we sold Iraq every bit of WMD's they ever had. We gave the OK for Saadam to gas the Kurds- hell we told him where to strike! We gave them satellite images!

                            Those are citizen fatalities. You, me, citizen.

                            This needs to stop, and people need to be accountable. Period.
                            Peak Oil

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                            • davetlv
                              Platinum Poster
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 1205

                              #15
                              Re: Impeachment of George W. Bush

                              Originally posted by eye-p
                              The nature of the resolutions are not the issue. I personally think the issue is that Israel is still in possession of WMD's, with tacit approval of the US.
                              Wrong my friend the nature of the resolution are essential.

                              Chapter VI resolutions are implemented through a process of negotiation, conciliation, or arbitration between the parties to a dispute whilst Chapter VII resolutions deal with threats to Peace, Breaches of the Peace and Acts of Aggression; with regard to Iraq the UN Security Council adopted all its resolutions against Iraq under Chapter VII of the UN Charter. The implementation of those resolutions was not contingent on Iraqi-Kuwaiti negotiations, for Iraq engaged in a clear-cut act of aggression. Moreover, UN resolutions on Iraq are self-enforcing, requiring Iraq alone to comply with their terms. However, the UN recognized, under Article 42 of the UN Charter, the need for special military measures to be taken if a Chapter VII resolution is ignored by an aggressor.

                              Originally posted by eye-p
                              While I am well aware of Israel's difficult position in the ME, as a country they must share in some of the blame. This is today more true than ever before. Sharon's hard line stance is making an already difficult situation virtually impossible.
                              Don't get me wrong, there are many things i blame my country for (look through some of my previous posts on the subject), but unlike many people I firmly believe that both sides in our conflict have a lot to answer too, and after 38 years its insane to just blame one party. As for Sharons hard stance, please note that the only reason we have that bloody man as our PM is because of the Intifada - more specifically remember that Barak offered the PA almost everything they demanded and instead of accepting the offer they refused and didn't even make a counter proposal (you know through negotiations), Arafat decided it would be more fruitful to send his homicide bombers back to our streets.

                              Originally posted by eye-p
                              Also, to say that Israel has not invaded any country is absurd. What is the West Bank? How about invading Egypt in 1967?
                              Please read the history of the start of the 1967 conflict, from reliable sources. (I can supply you with some pretty neutal one should you need them.) Israel never invaded anyone in 1967. Prior to war with Egypt Israel asked, almost begged, Jordan not involve itself, their response was to bomb Jerusalem, so like any nation state in the same position Israel defended itself. The West Bank, rightly or wrongly, became spoils of war.

                              Originally posted by eye-p
                              Now, with regards to Iraq's WMD's...this is not, "open to opinion and fact I guess". This is open to nothing. I have more WMD's than Iraq did. We invaded a country that was no threat to anyone. And now, we are losing our citizens at an alarming rate. This says nothing of the Iraqi citizens, whose death toll is estimated to be between 15,000 and 100,000.
                              I repeat what i said earlier, had Sadamm allowed the inspections to continue and for the relevant bodies to say categorically that there were no WMD's then there would have been no basis for the war, however, his pontification on the subject caused the conflict. If he had admitted he didn't have any, instead of hampering the inspectors at every turn, we would be in a very different situation. But his pride did not allow him to do that. Instead he claimed time and time again of his capabilities and threats to use them against the west.

                              If he cared one iota for his people, which we know he didn't, he would have been honest, but then he most certainly would have faced an internal revoultion.

                              I'm not sure what your WMD capabilities are but if you have weapons that can gas 5000 plus at a time and the missiles to launch them, as well as a history in using them against your detractors, then maybe you also need to be invaded!!!!!

                              Originally posted by eye-p
                              And lets remember, we sold Iraq every bit of WMD's they ever had. We gave the OK for Saadam to gas the Kurds- hell we told him where to strike! We gave them satellite images!
                              The west is entierly to blame for the mess in the region, dating back to the end of the Ottoman empire and the British mandate.

                              Originally posted by eye-p
                              Those are citizen fatalities. You, me, citizen.

                              This needs to stop, and people need to be accountable. Period.
                              I agree, but i'm not sure the process of impeachment is the correct way for a democracy to behave. Just my opinion. Maybe the US needs to re-visit their constitution and put the question to a referendum. If the referendum calls for impeachment proceedings to begin then obvioulsy that would be the will of the people.

                              Lets face it, we all know that the impeachment of Clinton was nothing more than the right wing having a go, and whether Bush's impeachment is justified or not, i worry about how the process can be abused and make a laughing stock of what is, constitutionaly anyway, a great democracy.



                              edited once for really bad grammar and typos.

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