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  • George&Lynne
    Banned
    • Apr 2014
    • 61

    #16
    Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

    Originally posted by KiwiTollway
    ^^^THIS!! pleeeaseee



    Your mind is very accustomed to movies and staged scenes that show frame-by-frame incidents intended to look real because they were planned and filmed to be visually accurate, but not actually accurate/real life. So, of course, you believe everything is LIKE the movies. In real life, cameras, cell phones, etc. can't capture everything that occurs within seconds without notice because in real life there's no director slowing the process down long enough for a camera to capture it. For example, a plane flying 600+ mph. That doesn't mean it isn't there or didn't happen. Cameras are just a way to perceive something, to try to capture what can't be paused... not actual proof, and neither are these youtubes.
    What total and utter rubbish. No in real life camera can't show frame-by-frame footage, but when you have multiple cameras at different locations all facing to the same area, with different capture speeds and not one shows a picture of an actual plane. Then when the pentagon publish four stills they are claiming show a plane crashing into a building, you expect to see a plane in the picture.

    You go on about people being accustomed to movies, then tell us you were a member of a church for 20 years.

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    • KiwiTollway
      Platinum Poster
      • Jan 2014
      • 1474

      #17
      Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

      Cameras are used to perceive something. You're wanting proof from a camera(s).

      Doesn't mean it didn't happen & doesn't mean there isn't mounds of other proof.

      Not everything can be visually perceived and if that's your only source of proof, you have bigger issues than conspiracy theory ones. Believe you've seen every picture or video of the event? get real

      You keep adding 1 + 2 and getting 5 and it's just illogical, impractical, ludicrous reasoning.

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      • Zover
        Banned
        • Mar 2014
        • 965

        #18
        Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

        Originally posted by KiwiTollway

        My soon-to-be son-in-law is in law enforcement and I can tell you there are heaps & heaps of real evidence that never gets shown in the media or to the public in cases like this, and training sessions are just that, training sessions, not some staged crime scene sold or given to the media for hype. Daily, hundreds of police officers are dedicating their lives/careers to handling violent criminal activity and it's no joke and is real.
        You are aware many first responders, police, firemen etc had their testimonies buried over 9/11. This whole we have evidence but you can't see it is bullshit.

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        • KiwiTollway
          Platinum Poster
          • Jan 2014
          • 1474

          #19
          Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

          Originally posted by George&Lynne
          You go on about people being accustomed to movies, then tell us you were a member of a church for 20 years.
          what does one have to do with the other? Again, ludicrous reasoning.

          I was not a member of a church for a long time. I was a member of a church for a long time. My point was that if you're uneducated about what really goes on in churches or what they teach children, then don't go around judging those same children that had a kind of upbringing you know nothing about.

          Those were a pastor's kids being interviewed. They are nothing like you, yet you judge then as fake. That's horrendous reasoning.

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          • KiwiTollway
            Platinum Poster
            • Jan 2014
            • 1474

            #20
            Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

            Originally posted by Zover
            You are aware many first responders, police, firemen etc had their testimonies buried over 9/11. This whole we have evidence but you can't see it is bullshit.
            Thanks for misquoting me. I never said "we have evidence."

            Doesn't mean evidence doesn't exist. Your reasoning is bs & illogical.

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            • Zover
              Banned
              • Mar 2014
              • 965

              #21
              Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

              Originally posted by KiwiTollway
              Cameras are used to perceive something. You're wanting proof from a camera(s).

              Doesn't mean it didn't happen & doesn't mean there isn't mounds of other proof.

              Not everything can be visually perceived and if that's your only source of proof, you have bigger issues than conspiracy theory ones. Believe you've seen every picture or video of the event? get real

              You keep adding 1 + 2 and getting 5 and it's just illogical, impractical, ludicrous reasoning.
              Acctually I am not relying on the camera footage as my only proof. Mounds of other proof please! Looks at the testimonies of the people who where actually there, the lack of plane wreckage, fires burning for days after, thirmide at ground zero etc.

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              • Zover
                Banned
                • Mar 2014
                • 965

                #22
                Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

                Originally posted by KiwiTollway
                Thanks for misquoting me. I never said "we have evidence."

                Doesn't mean evidence doesn't exist. Your reasoning is bs & illogical.
                Like a building that falls down at free fall speed from office fires.

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                • Zover
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 965

                  #23
                  Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

                  Originally posted by KiwiTollway
                  what does one have to do with the other? Again, ludicrous reasoning.

                  I was not a member of a church for a long time. I was a member of a church for a long time. My point was that if you're uneducated about what really goes on in churches or what they teach children, then don't go around judging those same children that had a kind of upbringing you know nothing about.

                  Those were a pastor's kids being interviewed. They are nothing like you, yet you judge then as fake. That's horrendous reasoning.
                  I don't think George or Lynne said they were fake.

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                  • Zover
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 965

                    #24
                    Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

                    Originally posted by KiwiTollway
                    Thanks for misquoting me. I never said "we have evidence."

                    Doesn't mean evidence doesn't exist. Your reasoning is bs & illogical.
                    Really so what piece of evidence do why have of the official 9/11 story have we seen, that stands up to scrutiny? So they will show us the flimsy evidence, but not the hard evidence.

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                    • Zover
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 965

                      #25
                      Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

                      Originally posted by KiwiTollway

                      You keep adding 1 + 2 and getting 5 and it's just illogical, impractical, ludicrous reasoning.
                      So 20 years in a church, did you go there because you liked the stories, or did you believe the stories were true? Religion = No evidence whatsoever. You have to have faith apparently. 1 + 2 = God LOL

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                      • KiwiTollway
                        Platinum Poster
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 1474

                        #26
                        Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

                        The post is about Charleston, SC and I was referring to Sakio who is always posting youtubes as his video proof.

                        If you're used to going to movies all your life & you enjoy and invest intellectually in youtube videos as your primary source of information, then you're free to believe whatever you want, go right ahead; I don't care. But, when you start judging an event as fake and people as actors, you better have something real to back up your opinion (earned education, actual life experience, first-hand knowledge of the people/places involved. etc.), because that's mean, distasteful, arrogant, and petty.

                        There is every bit of evidence in that video (if the video shows the pastor's actual kids, idk) that those kids are real....... I can break it down for you if you'd like, but I'd rather not bore myself. Who in their right mind would go around believing any Joe on Youtube and calling it definitive proof? That's ludicrous.

                        I'm not saying the media is all noble and trustworthy, but they are also not all wackos and conspirators as Sakio believes. He wants others to open their minds, why doesn't he open his and get educated about the things he professes? He professed there was no emotion shown and I adequately explained why. But I saw lots of things in that same video that question his opinion.

                        My point in what George/Lynn quoted me as saying was in my last sentence. He/she called it all utter bs and rubbish.

                        Oh who cares, this is so boring & tedious. Carry on amongst yourselves.
                        Last edited by KiwiTollway; June 23, 2015, 03:52:42 PM. Reason: http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/editpost.php?p=1166476&do=editpost

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                        • sakio pod
                          SALAD TOSSER
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 6034

                          #27
                          Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

                          Sorry last movie I seen was avatar!!

                          look here is another shooting of 5 people in a chruch back in 2006 was never covered by the MSM


                          they pick and choose only their narrative to play to u

                          they raised 30 million dollars already for the fake famlies and the chruch has reopened already!

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                          • KiwiTollway
                            Platinum Poster
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 1474

                            #28
                            Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

                            Get some psychological help with your thought processes [cognitive therapy] or enjoy your life in your little conspiracy bubble. A closed mind is a terrible waste.

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                            • el presidente Highsteppa
                              Platinum Poster
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 1332

                              #29
                              Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

                              The politics forum is pretty much Zover and Sakio Pod comparing each others cock sizes under the guise of who can scream loudest who's the most awake and who can be the most crass as a human being with the subject matter. Attention whoring at its finest. I'm guessing Sakio is acting as a surrogate Running Man, while Zover is just a dumber version of vinnie97 - the guy starts a thread about abusing an animal instead of maybe considering another running route - what does that say about his intelligence?

                              I mean seriously - these dipshits believe anything that they can find on youtube that suits their bias, and end it there, claiming they've found the truth. LOL - yeah, that's some great research skills boys - how the fuck did you get past the 3rd grade, much less any job above fry cook at McDonalds?

                              You both truly believe that a conspiracy that you're claiming to be uncovered is completely unraveled in a single youtube video that you came across on the internet? How fucking retarded are you both? Think about that for a second. Seriously, sit on your hands for a second before frantically tapping the reply nonsense and think how convenient your reasoning is with the "evidence" you're standing behind.

                              Let them jerk each other off. It's amusing to see how desperate each of them are to be seen as "enlightened" while each displaying a massive inferiority complex and overcompensating for it. They'll get tired of it, and Zover will get hostile to anyone that he feels threatened by. Just watch, he'll go fucking ballistic after he spots this post.
                              Score so far: Owned ZoverTard 8 times - twice in one week! Twice more in same weekend.

                              More than six months later - he's still pissed LOL - check the last visitor - guess who the last visitor is on my profile page.

                              His newest incarnation this week:♫♫♫♫♫♫

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                              • ddr
                                DUDERZ get a life!!!
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 7006

                                #30
                                Re: Charleston shooting STAGED DRILL

                                Originally posted by Jenks
                                We need to delete this section of Mercuryserver.
                                Hopefully this happens with the upcoming(?) downsize.

                                We used to have thoughtful discussions here.. but that went away long ago.

                                Religion has caused more human death than any other reason; Politics is just another stupid religion.
                                "pics or stfu" - R.I.P. Steve "Jibgolly" James

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