Recent Poll Numbers

[toasty]

During some procrastination from work, I happened by Real Clear Politics' web site, http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls.html which has a snapshot of current opinion polls for political issues around the country.

Bush's numbers are about the same they've been for the last new months -- hovering around equal numbers approving and disapproving, with the current average spread favoring disapproval by 1.7%.

Here's the interesting thing -- the average poll numbers for Congress' job approval favors disapproval by 26%. Moreover, 60% of Americans think the country is headed in the wrong direction, compared to 35.3% who think it is on the right track -- a spread of 24.7%.

What the hell does this mean? People think things are fucked up, but they blame Congress more than Bush? And people called Clinton, "Slick Willie" -- Bush is like friggin' Teflon. Crazy...

[thesightless]

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clinton was slick willie. reading the truth about hillary and there is some serious shit that the clintons pulled off. people like bush because he doesnt bullshit when he talks, he comes out like a normal person who is opinionated and doesnt cater to bullshit. remember, there is a lot of space between the coasts, and most of it is right wing.

[toasty]

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remember, there is a lot of space between the coasts, and most of it is right wing.

tell me about it -- I'm swimming in it. Thankfully, St. Louis city is an oasis of rational thought.

people like bush because he doesnt bullshit when he talks

I'd say that people like bush because he doesn't sound like he's bullshitting when he talks -- but he spews as much BS as anyone, ever. He just isn't good at doing it on his feet, as Clinton was, and speaks only in carefully constructed sound bites. There's a reason he's given less press conferences than any other president.

[face]

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clinton was slick willie. reading the truth about hillary and there is some serious shit that the clintons pulled off. people like bush because he doesnt bullshit when he talks, he comes out like a normal person who is opinionated and doesnt cater to bullshit. remember, there is a lot of space between the coasts, and most of it is right wing.

just because they don't care or don't speak up doesn't automatically make them right wing.

but there are quite a lot of them. and i guess it's ok to get wasted and beat your wife as long as you go to church on sundays, right?

[thesightless]

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oh i hate the far left and far right. they are all morons.

i keep it to this

we need conservatives on anything financial, spending or security related. i also back the idea of smaller gov't.

we need liberals on social policy, citizen rights, and foreign relations. basically anything that involves mutual communication. however, some social policies are retarded when you think about it. i.e. welfare needs a limit, and thier ideas about schools are plain stupid. make school tougher, not easier, we wont compete worldwide if we follow the trends that started in the early 90's and gained steam under bush.

i cant justify either party doing anything i described the opposite party doing.

[robprunzit]

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I'd say that people like bush because he doesn't sound like he's bullshitting when he talks -- but he spews as much BS as anyone, ever. He just isn't good at doing it on his feet, as Clinton was, and speaks only in carefully constructed sound bites. There's a reason he's given less press conferences than any other president.

Well, you may be right, but it seems like to me BS artist are good at it because they are smooth and convincing. People loved Clinton because he could act the part, and be the guy they liked. I think Bush is loved by so many because he is sincere. I don't buy it that he is BS'ing to cover his ass, as Clinton did many times. If Bush is BS'ing, it is because he doesn't have an answere to give us. Maybe his lack of ability to communicate well, or he simply can't relay everything to us that we want to know at a specific time. I guess I relate to Bush somehow. I have spoken in front of people and got nervous, and lost my thought.

Funny story, I had a TV reporter interview me while I was observing a fallen tree on someones house. He asked me to relate what I thought about the fallen tree. I bumbled some stupid stuff, and went blank. That night I had a second of fame. One second on TV, they relayed my saying 'pretty incredible'. One second - fast. I guess I was poor in front of the camera.

I really feel Bush is true. I trust the man Bush, forgetting about the President. Clinton was a scumbag, the kind of guy I probably would not want to hang aroung with, but everyone else would want to be his best friend because of his personality. I think Bush has a personality that is somewhat easy to pick on, and he catches a blank mind sometimes, or he loses his train of thought. Another one of my issues too.

[MJDub]

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remember, there is a lot of space between the coasts, and most of it is right wing.

tell me about it -- I'm swimming in it. Thankfully, St. Louis city is an oasis of rational thought.

Damn. Here in Houston almost every person would practically pay to kiss Bush's feet just because he's "from Texas" and Republican. Worse yet, even when I try to ask them to ponder the possibility that Bush had ulterior motives for going into Iraq, they give me a look as if I just fucked their dog, and they spew out some mindless remark questioning my patriotism.

It's really quite sad/disgusting to know that no matter what somebody does that people still blindly vote for/agree with someone purely based on political party.

I didn't write my sig for nothing.

[thesightless]

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i personally like bush, i find him pretty funny and open. he doesnt come off like a backstabber. when he says something bad, he says it to the targets face. outside of the war and parts of the patriot act, i find he has some pretty good ideas, for instance, social security deffo needs a revamp. i also admire that he forces the issue of freedom and worldwide aid a lot more. people can say they want to see these hotspots get better, at least he tried. too many politicians just talk.

[eye-p]

Re: Recent Poll Numbers

During some procrastination from work, I happened by Real Clear Politics' web site, http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls.html which has a snapshot of current opinion polls for political issues around the country.

Bush's numbers are about the same they've been for the last new months -- hovering around equal numbers approving and disapproving, with the current average spread favoring disapproval by 1.7%.

Here's the interesting thing -- the average poll numbers for Congress' job approval favors disapproval by 26%. Moreover, 60% of Americans think the country is headed in the wrong direction, compared to 35.3% who think it is on the right track -- a spread of 24.7%.

What the hell does this mean? People think things are fucked up, but they blame Congress more than Bush? And people called Clinton, "Slick Willie" -- Bush is like friggin' Teflon. Crazy...

Im not sure where those poll numbers came from, but here are numbers from the last several days which show Bush's numbers in the low 40's- hardly "hovering around equal numbers approving and disapproving"

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1005

http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

Bush's numbers are in freefall because he does not have a single successful policy.

[BSully828]

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"You can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent - 40% of people know that"

- Homer Simpson

[toasty]

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Im not sure where those poll numbers came from

It's the average of all the national polls taken over the last couple of weeks. I'm a big Zogby fan, just trying to be objective and take them all into account.

[superdave]

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The approval numbers for both Bush and Congress are and should be low. Neither Bush nor Congress has done anything significant to help Americans unless you're really wealthy.

Most Americans are sick of the partisanship and want to see positive changes happen in Washington and stop the fighting. I really believe the greatest enemy this country faces is itself not Iraq, social security, or terrorism. I wish the Dems and Repubs would work together to solve the problems of America instead of constantly bickering and posturing for power.

[MJDub]

Hear here, superbrutha.

[robprunzit]

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The approval numbers for both Bush and Congress are and should be low. Neither Bush nor Congress has done anything significant to help Americans unless you're really wealthy.

Most Americans are sick of the partisanship and want to see positive changes happen in Washington and stop the fighting. I really believe the greatest enemy this country faces is itself not Iraq, social security, or terrorism. I wish the Dems and Repubs would work together to solve the problems of America instead of constantly bickering and posturing for power.

Excuse me, but without going back and making a list, the Bush admin has done more to help the American than Clinton ever did. Did you not get a tax rebate check. How about the Social Security debate, if that is not for the people, I don't know what is. Dude your just wrong!

On the issue of fighting and partisian politics, you can only blame the dems.
If you look at the party who is on a constant attack mode using lie and slander to gain supporters it is clearly the demo party. So much of what they say, is not justified, some are very clear lies. They have the mentality of hurting George Bush not matter what it takes.

As far as fighting goes, if the demo party would stop the slander and drumbeat of attack on Bush and his administration, they would begin to get along. The Rep party hardly fights back really. Bush hardly addresses the issues they bring up to defend himself or his decisions, he just clearly states his reasons and goals. That is truly not a fight. Show me which Rep sided poeple are actually fighting. All the fight is on the left, from the left, in many different forms all saying the same BS, almost to brainwash the masses of ignorant forgetful Americans who lazily only listen to CNN and watch the Locals.

It takes 2 to fight, if this is a fight, it is one or two fighting on the Rep side, against a well orchestrated and planned out strategic ploy to undermine the majority, and the majority party hardly says a word. That is not a fight my friend.

Stop the left and the slander, and you will stop the fight.

[eye-p]

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The approval numbers for both Bush and Congress are and should be low. Neither Bush nor Congress has done anything significant to help Americans unless you're really wealthy.

Most Americans are sick of the partisanship and want to see positive changes happen in Washington and stop the fighting. I really believe the greatest enemy this country faces is itself not Iraq, social security, or terrorism. I wish the Dems and Repubs would work together to solve the problems of America instead of constantly bickering and posturing for power.

Excuse me, but without going back and making a list, the Bush admin has done more to help the American than Clinton ever did. Did you not get a tax rebate check. How about the Social Security debate, if that is not for the people, I don't know what is. Dude your just wrong!

On the issue of fighting and partisian politics, you can only blame the dems.
If you look at the party who is on a constant attack mode using lie and slander to gain supporters it is clearly the demo party. So much of what they say, is not justified, some are very clear lies. They have the mentality of hurting George Bush not matter what it takes.

As far as fighting goes, if the demo party would stop the slander and drumbeat of attack on Bush and his administration, they would begin to get along. The Rep party hardly fights back really. Bush hardly addresses the issues they bring up to defend himself or his decisions, he just clearly states his reasons and goals. That is truly not a fight. Show me which Rep sided poeple are actually fighting. All the fight is on the left, from the left, in many different forms all saying the same BS, almost to brainwash the masses of ignorant forgetful Americans who lazily only listen to CNN and watch the Locals.

It takes 2 to fight, if this is a fight, it is one or two fighting on the Rep side, against a well orchestrated and planned out strategic ploy to undermine the majority, and the majority party hardly says a word. That is not a fight my friend.

Stop the left and the slander, and you will stop the fight.

Rob- you are truly a moron.

We went from a budget surplus in 2000, to the LARGEST DEFECIT EVER- for the last 3 years in a row. How does your tax cut feel now?

How about the price of gas? The day Clinton left office, oil was $27 a barrel, today oil closed at over $60 a barrel.

How about health care? Bush has done real well on healthcare.(not)

How about social security? Well, since Bush himself admits that privatization will not help SSI, how is his plan good? Remember, the program will pay full benefits until 2041 as it sits now.

How about how well Bush has protected us? He hasnt. 9/11 happened on HIS WATCH. Period! Not the day he took over, 9 months into his term, 1 month after he recieved a memo that was titled; "Bin Laden determined to attack in US". That same memo contained the phrase, "planes could be used as weapons". It in the 9/11 commission report, have a look.

How about those WMD's? How about that $300,000,000,000 price tag for the Iraq war? That was a smart move right?

As for the dems screwing everything up- since the republicans control the House, Senate, and White House, as well as having 5 of 9 on the Supreme Court, exactly what should the dems do? Exactly what legislation could they get passed being a minority in every branch of government?

Turn off Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, and join the reality based community.