Rove implicated in Plame outing

[toasty]

As reported on Drudge Report:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000972841

Now that Time Inc. has turned over documents to a federal judge, revealing who its reporter, Matt Cooper, identified as his source or sources in the Valerie Plame/CIA case, speculation runs rampant. Lawrence O'Donnell, senior MSNBC political analyst, now claims that at least two authoritative sources have confirmed that one name is top White House mastermind Karl Rove.

This afternoon, Newsweek's Michael Isikoff confirmed that Cooper did indeed talk to Rove for his story, but Rove's lawyer denied he was the key leaker in the case.

"The e-mails surrendered by Time Inc., which are largely between Cooper and his editors, show that one of Cooper's sources was White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove, according to two lawyers who asked not to be identified because they are representing witnesses sympathetic to the White House," Isikoff writes on the Newsweek web site. "Cooper and a Time spokeswoman declined to comment. But in an interview with Newsweek, Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, confirmed that Rove had been interviewed by Cooper for the article. It is unclear, however, what passed between Cooper and Rove."

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Will be interesting to see how this pans out.

[thesightless]

Re: Rove implicated in Plame outing

the reporters should be locked up firstly for this. rove i couldnt care less about, he wont be winning any more elections anyway. they should be charged with treason too.

[toasty]

Agreed re the reporters, although if it turns out that Rove did, indeed, leak Plame's name, I find him even more culpable than them. I would hope that the reporters would exercise some restraint and not feel the need to publish her name, for reasons I've set forth in an earlier post on this topic -- but they're reporters, and they're at least reporting (although I don't agree that it was newsworthy or necessary). As to Rove, though, if he turns out to be the source, it would solidify my belief that this woman was outed -- ending her career, putting her in danger, and endangering the lives and missions of other undercover operatives with whom she worked -- purely as political payback for her husband's criticism of the adminstration.

I can't think of a strong enough adjective to describe this. "Treason" is a start, but it really doesn't fully capture it.

It doesn't matter, though. I'm sure Rove has some explanation cooked up, or he wouldn't have given Cooper the green light to turn over the docs. He, like his boss, will get off free and clear...

[thesightless]

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toasty, they, along with thier editors, in the end, are the ones who put it to print. :?

[toasty]

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^^ Fair enough. But they wouldn't have had shit to write about in the absence of someone telling them in the first place. It would be ridiculous for Rove (or anyone) to tell a reporter something under the condition of anonymity and not expect it to make its way into print.

I'm not excusing the reporters. In fact, I don't understand why Novak isn't having his feet held to the fire as well -- perhaps he is, and we just haven't heard about it yet. I agree 100% that treason is an entirely appropriate way to describe their actions.

The root problem, however, in my mind, is not so much that it was printed but that it was leaked in the first place. We can't have people at any level of the administration disseminating this type of information to anyone that doesn't need to know, period. That it could turn out to be Bush's chief strategist puts it in a whole different light. It shows a gross lack of respect for the men and women in the intelligence community who give up so much for their country -- their identity, their private life, their safety -- and it is indicative of the reckless bravado that has put us where we find ourselves now on a global scale.

[pacific493]

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These reporters DID NOT put Plame's name into print. Novak is the one who printed it. The information was leaked to a number of other reporters (including Cooper and the one who went to jail) who did not put it into print.

[toasty]

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These reporters DID NOT put Plame's name into print. Novak is the one who printed it. The information was leaked to a number of other reporters (including Cooper and the one who went to jail) who did not put it into print.

good to know, thanks for the clarification. I had wondered about that, because I had only ever heard of Novak printing her name.

[eye-p]

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toasty, they, along with thier editors, in the end, are the ones who put it to print. :?

Sometimes you are just unreal dude.

Its OK to TELL a reporter the name of an undercover CIA agent, who is working on WMD's, but its NOT OK to use that info in a newspaper?

Please tell me you are joking.

Think about that again: Rove "outed" a active, undercover, CIA agent, who was working on WMD's. This was done during wartime- a war which was sold on WMD's.

Please tell me you are joking.

[toasty]

Re: Rove implicated in Plame outing

At long last, the press appears to be calling the Bush Administration on some of its bullshit. Did anyone see the brow-beating McClellan received at the hands of the press on the Rove issue?

Transcript:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/07/20050711-3.html

About fucking time.

[toasty]

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And one more thing -- I happened to stumble upon the elder Bush's thoughts on the topic. Couldn't have put it better myself:

"We need more human intelligence. That means we need more protection for the methods we use to gather intelligence and more protection for our sources, particularly our human sources, people that are risking their lives for their country. Even though I'm a tranquil guy now at this stage of my life, I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious, of traitors." - George H.W. Bush, April 16, 1999, Dedication Speech, George Bush Center for Intelligence

[Jenks]

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this pic is funny....

[Yao]

Re: Rove implicated in Plame outing

At long last, the press appears to be calling the Bush Administration on some of its bullshit. Did anyone see the brow-beating McClellan received at the hands of the press on the Rove issue?

Transcript:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/07/20050711-3.html

About fucking time.

McClellan comes out as a total sucker in that transcript, lol....

[eye-p]

Re: Rove implicated in Plame outing

At long last, the press appears to be calling the Bush Administration on some of its bullshit. Did anyone see the brow-beating McClellan received at the hands of the press on the Rove issue?

Transcript:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/07/20050711-3.html

About fucking time.

McClellan comes out as a total sucker in that transcript, lol....

Im really looking forward to seeing this investigation unfold. If there is a traitor in the administration, they need to be dealt with swiftly.

[thesightless]

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im not unreal, so fack off. you just dont do that. never should have happened and we are lucky it didnt blow up into something big, like the agent getting picked up or killed. all they had to do was keep it out of the press and use a fake name. stupidity on the editors behalf all the way.

your unreal, i mean honestly, are you the type of person who visits mike moore's website on a daily basis for your news and opinion? quit living in a delusional world where everything is evil if it doesnt agree with you. its common sense and general knowledge that they shouldnt have printed it. i put blame on that fat tub rove too, but in the end, all they had to do was use a fake name if they were that hard pressed to get the story in. jeez, we protect the rights of criminals behind bars, we couldnt excercise some sensibilities?

[pacific493]

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I like the fact that Bush has nicknamed Rove: "Turd Blossom."