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  • bart_smastard
    Gold Gabber
    • May 2005
    • 980

    how safe is p2p

    i should imagine this question has been asked many times but i'm new so indulge me.
    in england yesterday they successfully brought another 20 prosecutions against music sharers and because they won em all and took a shedload in fines . the counterfiet squad said they will be stepping up operations to try and get more and more ppl . what i want to know ( techies please respond)
    what type of peer to peer is safe or which progs can't they get ure i.s.p. from . srry for reposting this topic if it's been up a 100 times b4
    if we got any legal eagles or ppl in the know what kinda music is it safe to share
  • fletcher
    Platinum Poster
    • Jul 2005
    • 1308

    #2
    Re: how safe is p2p

    How safe is it to rob a bank???

    Depends if your sloppy and get caught!
    http://fletchymole.wordpress.com/

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    • MJDub
      Are you Kidding me??
      • Jun 2004
      • 2765

      #3
      How safe is it to put your wang in an oven?


      Depends if it's on Bake or Broil.
      http://www.myspace.com/mjdubmusic

      You can't have manslaughter without laughter.

      "Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl."

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      • bart_smastard
        Gold Gabber
        • May 2005
        • 980

        #4
        Re: how safe is p2p

        i would now welcome a reply from an intelligent person

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        • tiddles
          Encryption, Jr.
          • Jun 2004
          • 6861

          #5
          i feel pretty safe downloading livesets w/P2P, but thats all i download.
          i was talking to my ISP one day and the ldy asked me if I was using bit torrent because of all the uploads from my end

          (i know it sound hypocritical but) i'm kinda glad they are cracking down on people. i hate people who treat music like trash and just whore it around on the net.

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          • fletcher
            Platinum Poster
            • Jul 2005
            • 1308

            #6
            Re: how safe is p2p

            Originally posted by bart_smastard
            i would now welcome a reply from an intelligent person
            Well i guess you pretty much answer your own question - 20 people got fined. No form of data encryption is truly safe, so its always a risk.

            but of course it would be no good to list the sources I think are safer here would it?
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            • daveman
              I love the colors!!!
              • Jul 2005
              • 1221

              #7
              Re: how safe is p2p

              2 P or not 2 P that is the question.

              i would say P is safe 2 P. if you are peeing blood or other liquids I would consult a physician.
              once upon a time, machines were mice, and men were lions. now that its the opposite, it's twice upon a time

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              • bart_smastard
                Gold Gabber
                • May 2005
                • 980

                #8
                Re: how safe is p2p

                what i am trying to ask is a few things
                i have heard there are some sites that use servers in countries that don't comply with international law so they don't go giving out i.s.p. addresses
                also on slsk ( i have posted this on slsk forum so i won't waste ure time ) can ure i.s.p.a. be obtained through someone on there .
                and is it main labels like sony ect.ec.t that are doing the searching for sharers so i keep away from mainstream music in shares.
                and finnaly i been told there are some i.s.p.'s that can rotate ure i.s.p. address

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                • MJDub
                  Are you Kidding me??
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 2765

                  #9
                  So what's the question?
                  http://www.myspace.com/mjdubmusic

                  You can't have manslaughter without laughter.

                  "Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl."

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                  • bart_smastard
                    Gold Gabber
                    • May 2005
                    • 980

                    #10
                    Re: how safe is p2p

                    choose from one of the four ...gimp .... the world realy is infested with idiots

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                    • MJDub
                      Are you Kidding me??
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 2765

                      #11


                      GOOD ONE!!






                      Now show me one question mark in any of your posts.





                      Grammar Nazi-ing aside, Soulseek has been named before in a few cases, but for mainstream-type music. If you don't share mainstream and/or big copyright music, you're pretty much in the clear. Smaller DJs, musicians, groups, etc. actually welcome people sharing their music on P2P so they can get their name out.


                      Now get your melodrama out of here.
                      http://www.myspace.com/mjdubmusic

                      You can't have manslaughter without laughter.

                      "Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl."

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                      • bart_smastard
                        Gold Gabber
                        • May 2005
                        • 980

                        #12
                        Re: how safe is p2p

                        ahhh an american .. forgot i have to say question b4 i ask one .. we can put the pieces together in england with out having T O S P E L L it out to one another .. mjdub . dub = without words ..try living up to ure name and keep it shut

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                        • MJDub
                          Are you Kidding me??
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 2765

                          #13


                          Nice job insulting people who give you advice and input.
                          http://www.myspace.com/mjdubmusic

                          You can't have manslaughter without laughter.

                          "Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl."

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                          • bart_smastard
                            Gold Gabber
                            • May 2005
                            • 980

                            #14
                            Re: how safe is p2p

                            i'm still welcoming intelligent replies .. some ppl need not respond

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                            • neoee
                              Platinum Poster
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 1266

                              #15
                              Re: how safe is p2p

                              As some have mentioned above your most likely ok if you are downloading live sets or DJ sets. As long as the artists whos tracks are being played are not part of RIAA. Most independant labels probably do care that their tracks are being passed around but don't pursue it like members of RIAA do.

                              As to P2P, for the most part your never safe. With the Azureus BT client you can get the Safepeer plugin which blacklists known RIAA systems but its still not 100%. The other option you have is to use a system such as I2P which is a truly anonymous system which protects your identity, though last time I tried it is was too slow to use realistically, although that was a while ago things may have gotten better. Tor might be a better option. I haven't had a chance to look into this but it looks like it might offer some identity protection.

                              If you do decide to live on the edge I suggest the following:
                              1) If you download something and you like it go and buy it otherwise delete it, because its the right thing to do and also you may have a leg to stand on if you get in trouble.
                              2) Setup a wireless home network which allows public access to your internet connection. You can use segregate the public area from your private ones by using vlans. IANAL but again this may offer you an out if you get in trouble since anyone could have been on your network and they won't be able to identify your MAC address, only your privately assigned IP.

                              A bit unethical but an option none the less is to use a yogi antenna to grab a wireless signal from one of you neighbors and use their connection for file sharing. Laws vary from state to state in terms of using an open connection. Some its perfectly legal to use an unsecured connection to connect to the internet, others its not. Google pringles antenna or cantenna for more information on this. In my neighborhood alone theres 7 wireless networks only 2 of them are secured (mine included). My latop on occasion will wander onto my neighbors network by accident (without the help of any additional antennas). If you going this route I highly suggest getting a Linksys G series router and Sveasoft's firmware since you can boost transmit power and also throw the router into client mode. Of course all this is going to take some work on your part.
                              "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." -Benjamin Franklin

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