ipods fucking up dj's ?

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  • bart_smastard
    Gold Gabber
    • May 2005
    • 980

    ipods fucking up dj's ?

    id'e like ure opinions on this . is the fact that sets are so available on the net and with us all listening to music more because of mp3 players altering the music dj's are playing ? . dj's used to stick just to their own genre and were more concerned with the mood . we all like a bit of a singalong and do tend to fastforward to "that" vocal track . so are they throwing more catchy things into radio sets and varying genres throughout a set to get more ppl interested in them and is that filtering into the way they play at clubs . i could of worded this better i know but the first draft was an essay
  • Jibgolly
    Vortexuralizor
    • Jun 2004
    • 20773

    #2
    you might be on to something here. i know as a dj myself, i hear so much friggin music that i tend to get bored with the stuff i try to play. finding those "moving" tracks is becoming harder each day. maybe i need a pioneer EFX 1000 r2d2 Processor to be more creative, but the more sets i listen to the more i am bored. i'm talking about sets like radio 1 stuff, or kiss 100 stuff, mostly the big jocks.

    elaboration to come soon....

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    • jeffrey collins
      Not cool enough
      • Jun 2004
      • 7427

      #3
      Re: ipods fucking up dj's ?

      I totally get what you guys are talking about. And the fact is...there is less and less great dance tracks out there everyday. More up and coming dj's just put out tracks that are basically just elaborations on loop ideas. And it's boring. And so many prog producers today are trying to be electro, but they are doing it all wrong. They shoudl stick to banging out the good prog we know them for. The only good prog producer who is doing good stuff with electro is Nick Muir these days. That guy is kicking some ass.
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      • hypoluxxa
        Are you Kidding me??
        • Jun 2004
        • 3371

        #4
        Re: ipods fucking up dj's ?

        ^^^^^^^
        I have to agree with all of you. I'm due to play out again (I haven't in ages) and I'm having a hard time finding tracks that sound fresh, and or are any good no matterwhat genre.

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        • skahound
          Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
          • Jun 2004
          • 11411

          #5
          I disagree with the fast-forwarding to "that" vocal track, but what I have been saying for quite some time is that we as fans of livesets, etc grow very agitated when we hear the same song spun by the same DJ in a few sets. "C'mon, where's the variety?" and comments like that are quite frequent when describing sets from the likes of any number of DJs. What we all need to keep in mind is that with livesets the artist is aiming at the people in the club that particular night, and since we're all human and fans of the same DJ we're bound to be moved by the same track(s). Therefore, we're going to hear those same tracks regurgitated from the same DJ(s). It's not Sasha's fault that I have 18 sets from him this year and in vitually every one he plays 'Behind the Wheel'.

          I don't think that iPods are the reason for that, but the advent of file-sharing, liveset hosting sites, etc.
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          • hypoluxxa
            Are you Kidding me??
            • Jun 2004
            • 3371

            #6
            Originally posted by skahound
            It's not Sasha's fault that I have 18 sets from him this year and in vitually every one he plays 'Behind the Wheel'.
            He played it every single time he was at Avalon too.

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            • MJDub
              Are you Kidding me??
              • Jun 2004
              • 2765

              #7
              I also disagree about "that" vocal track, because I can't stand vocals.
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              • wowflutter
                Getting Somewhere
                • Jun 2004
                • 114

                #8
                Originally posted by hypoluxxa
                Originally posted by skahound
                It's not Sasha's fault that I have 18 sets from him this year and in vitually every one he plays 'Behind the Wheel'.
                He played it every single time he was at Avalon too.
                I disagree. I think it is his fault. Why does a guy like Sasha, an absolute trend-setter, with an extraordinary cult-like following and the power to educate with good music, play a remix of Depeche Mode...15 times?

                I remember talking to Lee Burridge a couple of months ago and asking him about the source of his material, tracks being sent, promos, etc. and his answer was surprisingly fresh:

                - I never stopped hunting and shopping for records. I go to record shops all the time. That's were I find the good stuff.

                Some contrast, no?

                Listen to his 24/7. Listen to his live sets. Lots of gems there, lots of flip sides that many DJs don't even bother listening to. That's the attitude for a proffesional DJ who restlessly comes out with new and fresh music. Constantly trying to find new labels, blending the classic with the new, and the hard with the subtle. Rarely compromising his sound with a shit record (or at least trying not to) and pushing the envelope further and further away from mediocrity.

                Sasha used to be like this, but he isn't anymore.

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                • Jibgolly
                  Vortexuralizor
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 20773

                  #9
                  ^ nicely put

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                  • Hambrecht
                    Addiction started
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 334

                    #10
                    Re: ipods fucking up dj's ?

                    THAT must be why fundacion was boring.

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                    • Steve Graham
                      DJ Jelly
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 12887

                      #11
                      Re: ipods fucking up dj's ?

                      Originally posted by hypoluxxa
                      ^^^^^^^
                      I have to agree with all of you. I'm due to play out again (I haven't in ages) and I'm having a hard time finding tracks that sound fresh, and or are any good no matterwhat genre.
                      I know what you mean, but also understand a lot of people that will see you dont hear these tracks as much as you. Shit when I play out I bring out tracks from 2000, 2001 because, well especially in Tampa, these people most likely havent heard it in ages, if at all. That also shows you are a very knowledgeable dj, and not just out buying everythng brand new, just came out. hell, anyone can go to juno, and beat port and buy the newest stuff.. but pulling a gem from 5 or 6 years back and ropping it.. THATS style!

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                      • Weizy
                        MCast Resident DJ
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 3179

                        #12
                        Originally posted by wowflutter
                        It's not Rarely compromising his sound with a shit record (or at least trying not to) and pushing the envelope further and further away from mediocrity.
                        right on man

                        indeed, dance music is becoming more and more watered down, but what are you going to do? i say just do your thing, support the artists and such that you really dig and be prepared to sift through a ton of music to find those hidden gems out there.

                        as for ipods, i think owning one has allowed me to listed to and digest way more dj sets and the like...

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                        • skahound
                          Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 11411

                          #13
                          Re: ipods fucking up dj's ?

                          Originally posted by unome
                          pulling a gem from 5 or 6 years back and ropping it.. THATS style!
                          Spot fucking on!
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                          • Corven
                            Are you Kidding me??
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 4080

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wowflutter
                            Sasha used to be like this, but he isn't anymore.
                            now he has minions searching tracks and cutting up samples for him
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                            • asdf_admin
                              i use to be important
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 12798

                              #15
                              Re: ipods fucking up dj's ?

                              i do not think so. there is a time and place for everything. pretty pathetic if you listen to the same shit over and over. a hot set is a hot set, do not get me wrong. besides, you would be missing out on a lot. sometimes i just grab "shuff" that is tech house or electro. i try to find what is the best around. you would be surprised what you hear and perhaps find. sure tech, electro, h o u s e, etc are not my cup of tea. prog will always be my number one whore, but i do also respect could music and good artits.

                              point. listen to other shit numbnuts. your number one cure. md_asdf.
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