Seb Fontaine Savages ?Progressive? House

[asdf_admin]

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he is on perfecto.

[qwerty2222]

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i think seb's changing now, he got to that point when he's tryin so hard to get to the top, but doesnt succede, no matter how hard he tryes, and he blames it on the music he playes
my believe is there's nothing wrong with that music, he just lost it

[Steve Graham]

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never really had it in my opinion.. there are plenty of dj's i still would like to see, and his name has NEVER popped into my head as a must see.
to me he is just a blabber mouthed radio jock a la pete tong

also.. lol.. i wonder if his mum was a better dj.


taken from http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/ibiza2001/fontaine.shtml

"Seb was born in Ibiza and his mum used to DJ out there, so it's no wonder that he ended up doing what he does now. Seb launched Radio 1's Ibiza plans from Cafe Del Mar on 23rd June. He'll also be appearing during the Radio 1 Ibiza Weekend in August."

[3d_1200]

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think I’ve always been a prog DJ. Progressive house is forward thinking dance music,” Warren suggested, “There’s this whole electro fad at the moment, I’ve never gone down that route. There’s a few interesting tracks but I think a lot of it lacks energy


I am fully in agreement with old man warren....his statements speek the truth....

espcially PROGRESSIVE HOUSE IS FORWARD THINKING DANCE MUSIC....obviously sebs brain is to miniscule to understand real music

Some food for thought. Everyone says progressive is "forward thinking" - i used to agree with that statement, but not anymore. If the prog heads are so "forward thinking" then why do they put up a barrier around prog every time a new genre picks up steam. its like - oh shit tech house is getting popular, well instead of changing the music to incorporate new sounds and ideas(moving the music FORWARD), the progsters just say no that shit sucks its a fad if you play that trendy shit you dont belong in progressive, lets keep it just how it is. please explain the logic to me.

all i can say is - when i started listening to prog, it was a different animal then it is today. listen to hernans funky deep and tribal, then his first perfecto cd - they were fucking sick!!! then listen to renainssance masters 2 - do you see the desparity? hernan is VERY talented, i would be an idiot to say otherwise, but for those of you to think he didnt take the "obvious route", well, your in denial. I am not ripping on hernan whatsoever, so dont even try. and if you can't see the difference between funky deep n tribal, and ren masters 2 - do not respond to my post.

i for one do not think producers like tiefschwarz, steve bug, phonique, and others will be remembered as just a fad. it's fine if you don't like there productions, style, or even their face, thats fine really - but to say they are just putting out music without any substance or talent is just dumb, and now its my turn to call you an idiot.

i just always assumed prog would take elements from other areas and make them there own, not completly dismiss them like they are crap. with this whole "electro" being a fad, seb was right, it has changed dancefloors for the better. for those of you who say you like it deep, well fuck minimal is just naturally deeper then the "dark prog" (imo dark prog doesnt exisit anymore). so i just dont understand all the hate the prog community displays for the rest of the scene.

at the moment, prog shares more properties with trance then anything else, and i guess that doesn't bother anyone else. with djs like oakenfold, avb, and TIESTO playing prog tracks, isnt that disconcerning for anyone else?

music goes in cycles, just like many fassets of life (fashion, cinema, tv, etc). there was a serious lull in the scene about 1.5-2 years ago. the end of '03 to the beggining of '04 saw a lot of changes in the face of prog, why? because trance noticed. they realized people were leaving trance for prog, so they incorporated prog into there sets, and that carried over and changed prog completly.

chuckc - im not speaking to you personally, but to everyone who shares the idea that the guys who are doing new innovative things in music are just porvayers of some stupid fad. you guys should think about how that attitidue reflects to everyone else in the scene. im not saying seb is god or even that i like seb, he has always played lots of cheeze in the past, but im pretty sure hes seen a lot more dancefloors then anyone of you...

so what im saying is, modern day progressive seems to me is anything but "forward thinking", of course it depends on whos listening, but shutting out the new to retain the old is hardly a way to move forward.

peoples exposures and influences are what really helps shapes peoples taste, i understand some people find a niche and never want to leave(because its perfect the way it is), others (like myself) are never satisfied where there at, and jump at any oppurtunity to see what else is out there.

and to say his brain is to miniscule to understand real dance music....you didnt understand what he way saying. he was saying it had gotten boring, thats all. I understand lots of material i think is utterly boring, like algebra, i hate it, it puts me to sleep, but i understand the concepts. there are math professors probobly reading this saying that mother fucking algebra hater, if he had any intelligence at all he'd realize how fucking sick algebra really is....get it guys?

[bart_smastard]

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prog is a music treasured by those who "were there back in the day" and it is bing created and put on the decks by ppl our age . we gone through the happy garage and piano . we done the booming hardcore . techno we gave up on when we left out teens . D n B was an aquired taste to start with . Prog touched a nerve and reached our minds like no other . until something does the same we will defend prog and not let it be sullied by inferior music .

[3d_1200]

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so the "back in the day" mentality is forward thinking?

thanks for proving my point bart.

[bart_smastard]

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so the "back in the day" mentality is forward thinking?

thanks for proving my point bart.

Wtf?? i ain't talking oldschool .. you .. i am talking about the ppl who been into this scene from 1988 . read all what is said . we seen fad music come and go . prog been around 11years .. lets see electro minimal stay around so long


i edited the slur out cos i been speaking to him and he seems alright

[3d_1200]

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Wtf?? i ain't talking oldschool .. you fucktard .. i am talking about the ppl who been into this scene from 1988 . read all what is said . we seen fad music come and go . prog been around 11years .. lets see electro minimal stay around so long

ok i'll leave the fucktard comment alone, and let you know minimal techno has been around since the very begining. before prog, and before trance. so if you were listening since '88, im sure you knew all that.

what the hell was hawtin, saunderson, and t1000 doing back at the start? seriously tho, dont respond if you have no clue what your talking about it. i was being very objctive in my posts, so relax on the name calling you ugly brit.

[bart_smastard]

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but minimal techno wasn't called that. it was called acid and it died out big time .. awaiting a revival and re-packaging ..prog been strong for ages . only recently have ppl got on it's back

[hard2chui]

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I've alwys wondered why he wasn't part of the normal series. After listening to a few of his CDs i found out why.

Obviously not as good as the rest.

[nicomax]

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Seb is crap

[djkix]

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i went to a seb fontaine show in aug. it had been 3 years since i've seen him. last time, he spun janeiro which was a big treat since sasha had been spinning it on the delta heavy tour. i liked it lots.

how about now? it's pure shit. there's no vibe on the dance floor, it was just electro/prog rock assault all night long. call it "musical evolution" or whatever... personally, i feel it's too bad that quality prog house djs went down the electro/prog rock path - dave seaman, sandra collins (to a degree), satoshi tomiie, sharam of deep dish, and even hernan cattaneo.

yawn... i could not be more bored. it's all about the vibe it creates on the dance floor and electro kills the vibe. the only ppl that appreciate it are those "mainstream" club goers... those ppl that club every week but have no clue which dj is spinning.

so disappointing.

[J-Shock]

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I just got back fromt he club and Seb Fontaine was playing tonight. Let me just say, the guy is a real nice guy. The only thing i didnt like about him is when, for some reason, completelly out of the blue, he starts bashing progressive house. I could care less as i dont listen to that much progressive anyways but it just caught me by suprise as how blatant he was about it.

Besides that, Seb rocked it. He was probably the last dj i wanted to see on my list, but he was booked at my best friends club, a club that i am resident and that i also manage. This is not your typical club that you bring some good acts and let them do what you want. This is a "supper club" that catters to people that want bottle service and listen to slightly commercial music. As a dj and resident there, i never play what i dont like, but other residents play a lot of hip hop and garbage commercial shit. But going back to Seb, and after talking to him during and after his set, i was truely impressed by his attitude. He told me that place like this, he had to play to catter to the small "club" type atmosphere and he did just that. He rocked the place. I personnally didnt like his tracks or his style of playing, but the people were going off which is suprising since most want to have some hip-hop/r&b thrown in.

I dont care for his philosophies on dance music or his track selection, but he is a humble guy that knows what people want, wherever he is booked.

[sono]

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He has become so unpopular that he's blaming a whole genre for his downfall. What a moron. Hernan has risen to be one the top DJs in the world in the last few years based on progressive sound. The guy seriously lacks intelligence.

[NoOne]

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I'd like to heat a new Seb Fontaine mix very much.
But unfortunatelly he doesn't make so many mix albu,s and for some reason neither team releases live sets, radio shows from him