god vs. god MMV

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

1. Your all wrong, only Muslims have got it right and will enter the kingdon of heaven.

3. If women are not allowed to become priests or bishops then Christianity is fundemetally flawed, If God in his wisdom has decided that women are inferior to men, then sorry but i'll have no part of it.


alot of good stuff u wrote but to preach womens rights then say the muslims are spot on has got to be a piss take . all women are property of a man under islam

but the rest of it

[Morgan]

Re: miketpoto

Well bugger me, that took a lot of reading.

My pennies worth.

1. Your all wrong, only Muslims have got it right and will enter the kingdon of heaven.

2. The bible is a good read and contains some very postive messages on how to live your life. That said the editing it recived in the 3rd Cent from some enthusiatic bishops/canons has skewed the true meaning of the good book.

3. If women are not allowed to become priests or bishops then Christianity is fundemetally flawed, If God in his wisdom has decided that women are inferior to men, then sorry but i'll have no part of it.

4. Rock and Roll is going to hell, so who wants to be in heaven?!!

Unfortunely, when you live life according to your own morals and values, you hold yourself accountable for doing the right thing as opposed to fearing punishment and eternal damnation... it takes a lot of personal strength to prioritize one's self-respect (and respect for others) before temptation with no tangible reward for doing so.

Damn right. I do not need religion to show me the difference between right and wrong.
I do the right thing because it is right, not because of faith.

On the old Beanz subject, Mike I can see your point. Beanz was allowed free reign for far too long.

Cowardly,. I have a lot of respect for you. I am glad to hear that things have improved since last year, but (and there is always a but) I would be insulted if you told me you were going to pray for me, i would have felt demeanded. It's good that have faith but you must also have tolerance, remember point # 1 ?? Are you sure that you are backing the right horse? So many sub-sections of every religion, can they all be right?

As for born again and saved ppl. Well, imo they are using religion as a crutch, the whisky and cheap brandy that got them through the day has been replaced, by the smarm of an evanglist preaching salvation. However if it works and they feel better for it, then i'm happy, i'm a tolerant person, i live my life the way i want to and in a way that is postive not only for myself but for the rest of you.

[miketpoto]

Re: miketpoto

and ok, is it just me, or cowardly completely ignore my lengthy post of the day? I am trying not to read into that

[miketpoto]

Re: miketpoto

Dum Dum Dum Dum Dum

[miketpoto]

Re: miketpoto

"men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction." Blaise Pascal

I highly reccomend reading

UNDER THE BANNER OF HEAVEN by john Krakauer

(actually, all of his books are incredible but this one is specifically relating to religious fundamentalism)

[shosh]

Re: miketpoto

just like Joseph Smith

[Yao]

Re: miketpoto

Men guided by the Holy Spirit (or so they say) also tortured people because they were 'wrong' and started wars because they though whole peoples and nations were 'wrong'.

By the way: I sincerely cannot believe you seriously said that those Africans are worshipping god in the wrong way because they use music and instruments. I just can't. I've been there, and they could easily match your faith bro, even though they know jack shit of what is written down in the Bible (that's what you get when they're illiterate huh), but because they use drums they're not doing it right?

How about religious people concentrate a little bit more on intention, instead of nitpicking on rules?

[miketpoto]

Re: miketpoto

So Just Like Joseph Smith?

[cowardly dj]

Re: miketpoto

Good point bart....

I personally think God would have been a much better writer as well.

The scripture was written by men who were guided by the Holy Spirit that was sent by God. The actual words in the Bible are from God but the penmenship is from men.

[cowardly dj]

Re: miketpoto

CDJ my interest in religion is limited to the historical and current impacts it had/has on society . My view on the actual scryptures themselves are that they are lies and exagerations ( my beliefs remember not ures . i could be wrong you could be wrong.) I won't argue with you on what the bible contains or what messages it gives . But the validity of the book itself is what i contest you on when we lock horns on these matters

I have been aware of that from the onset of this. I have no problem with that. That is why it is called faith.

As I stated in my creation thread I have much more research and I will get it. It is basically reasons why the Bible is valid. I hope to get to it but you guys keep me busy in this thread

I have started typing it in word and I will paste it here. It is lengthy (as if that is not a given).

I am off back to my house to see if they have fixed my internet yet. If yes then I will see you guys later. If no then it will be tomorrow.

[miketpoto]

Re: miketpoto

Good point bart....

I personally think God would have been a much better writer as well.

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

CDJ my interest in religion is limited to the historical and current impacts it had/has on society . My view on the actual scryptures themselves are that they are lies and exagerations ( my beliefs remember not ures . i could be wrong you could be wrong.) I won't argue with you on what the bible contains or what messages it gives . But the validity of the book itself is what i contest you on when we lock horns on these matters

[cowardly dj]

Re: miketpoto

50 bucks says he is copying and pasting from a bible page that has formatted text already, otherwise his own words wouldn't be typo's and one colored. Just a hunch.

Yes and no. I have a Bible program on my computer with different versions of the Bible. I am using it for the scriptures. That is why ther are no mistakes in the scripture.
The format and how it lays out on the page is mine but that is pointless. It is about the message

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

go get those claws clipped mike .. ( we know he pastes posts but i got a hunch it is from his own "private studies") .

you could google 5 lines from one of his posts if you want to be sure

[cowardly dj]

Re: miketpoto

these long winded ones are not enjoyable at all though..

yes I know that it is alot and believe me I should pay more attention to the warning on the bottom of my keyboard about serious injury resulting form using the keyboard. My neck and shoulders are very sore. However if you read them you will get a better understanding of what I mention.

I believe that to hold a good viewpoint on something you need to be able to relate to all sides of it and this is your chance to see the Bible's side of what I talk about.