god vs. god MMV

[picklemonkey]

Re: miketpoto

Cowardly, Joseph Smith didnt claim to be 1800 years old, or that he saw Jesus in the flesh. He had a vision, allegedly, and the book of mormon speaks about Jesus having lived for a time in his life on earth in what is now modern day upstate new york. There is a lot more to it than that, but thats part of the basis of the mormon belief system.

yeah... don't you watch South Park?

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

thought u was on baby watch and the wife did the working ?

[cowardly dj]

Re: miketpoto

well I was refering to being on vacation. I had 3 weeks and this is my second week

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

ahhh.. got ya now

[shosh]

Re: miketpoto

CDJ. I think you ignored my first paragraph from my previous post completely. If Joseph Smith is a true prophet, everything you try to come up with is refuted.

Acts 2does not say that only the 12 Apostles were given the power of the Holy Ghost. There were many Apostles called even after the original 12 had died.
(16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17 And it shall come to pass in the alast days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall edream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy)

Same thing applies to John 16. Jesus never said that no one else can know all truths. That would mean that the other apostles called after his death were liars.

Later on you talk about how apostles were chosen. Then we need to think about Paul and Barnabas. Paul (or Saul) didnt meet Jesus Christ, he wasnt a member of the original tweleve. Yet he has written many of the books of the New Testament and he is called an apostle. (Act 14:14 [Which] when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard [of], they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out)

When apostles are chosen they are chosen through revelation.

We believe that the Church as organized by Christ himself was gone from the earth until it was restored by Joseph Smith. We call this concept "apostasy." Please take the time and read this, so you will understand better what I mean: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/kevgram3/Apostasy.html

I do not prove the Bible to be false or wrong. We hold the Bible to be the word of God. There are many scriptures that can be interpreted in any way you see fit. But that is not how you are supposed to study the Bible. I refer to articles due to my lazyness, but trust me I've had many long hours of discussion on any of these subjects with normal people, as well as preachers, pastors, and ministers. Has it done any good? No, we all went our ways believing the same thing we did before. Bible bashing as I call it does no good.

I guess the cool thing I have to my advantage is that I do believe in modern revelation and so I know that all questions i have can be answered through and because of that. If you really really want to learn more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the mormons), I can get you lined up with your local missionaries.

But as far as questions go, please feel free to keep them coming. At the same time, those 2 sites I referred you to, have more than the necessary information you could ever use.

as someone said in an earlier post, r e s p e c t

[cowardly dj]

Re: miketpoto

cool will look into it

[cowardly dj]

Re: miketpoto

I was not ingnoring your earlier post I just have not approached it yet.

[shosh]

Re: miketpoto

no prob. take your time. i always take mine

[cowardly dj]

Re: miketpoto

shosh I read the link you put up.

I saw many things that I think are contrary to the teachings of the Bible, but I know from experience that peopel who are deeply rooted in their belief are just as apt to question it as Bush is to lower gas prices. I could point out the obvious differences and errors but if the ones I have posted here already have not provoked you to thought then nothing will. That is why we are all free moral agents and are not bound to any set belief. It is just they way things are.

I am glad you are willing to talk about it though. I get much of the "I have my faith you have yours, or I dont need God I have my own morals, or Who are you to judge me.

I will post some stuff here later but I need a break. My mind is getting heavy as I have been researching deeply and have done nothing but research for the last several days.

I hope we can pick this up again, soon I just need a bit of R&R while I am on my R&R

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

This has gone from a religion vs sense thread . To a religion vs religion thread .
from everyone enjoying it .
to two ppl enjoying it .
mike this is no longer about you .. srry

[miketpoto]

Re: miketpoto lost his thread.

I found something interesting that totally brings up so many questions:

from the Insider's Recipes Master Edition

on page 3 it says

Applebee's French Onion Soup
3 tablespoons vegetable oil
6 medium white onions, sliced
8 cups good quality beef broth
1 cup water
2 1/2 teaspoons salt
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
5 hamburger buns
10 slices provolone cheese
10 teaspoons shredded parmesan cheese

but then we go on to page 33 and we find out

Preheat the oven to 325F. Cream together the shortening and sugar
with an electric mixer. Add the egg, salt, and peanut butter and
beat until well blended.

note that it says specifically BEAT UNTIL WELL BLENDED


On page 60 there is a shocking revelation

York Peppermint Patties
1 (14−ounce) can Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk
(NOT evaporated milk)
1 tablespoon peppermint extract
green or red food coloring, optional
6 cups confectioners' sugar
Additional confectioners' sugar
1 16 oz. bag semi−sweet chocolate chips

but if we go back to page 29 we remember that the special secret sauce has been revealed unto us already.....

BIG MAC SAUCE:
1/4 cup Miracle Whip
1/4 cup mayonnaise
2 tablespoons french salad dressing
1/2 tablespoon sweet relish
2 teaspooons dill pickle relish
1 teaspoon sugar
1 teaspoon dried, minced onion
1 teaspoon white vinegar
1 teaspoon ketchup
1/8 teaspoon salt
Mix together and allow to flavors to blend for about
an hour before using.

Now what does anyone have to say knowing what you now know?

[bart_smastard]

Re: god vs. god MMV

Good point mike . I'm sure in another book . It was cheddar cheese and not provolone cheese . Do you have in ure possession the true book or is this one that has been distorted and missinterpreted by mortals

[miketpoto]

Re: god vs. god MMV

FUCK YOU BART!!! Question my SHIT AGAIN! I'll CUT YOU!

[miketpoto]

Re: god vs. god MMV

[bart_smastard]

Re: god vs. god MMV

Cut me as you like but that french onion recipe will send you into eternal damnation . It is not too late follow and repent then salvation shall be yours