god vs. god MMV

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

I hope that somewhere in your life someone can show you the right way and I will pray for you. I am willing to teach you about the Bible and show you how to understand it.

Hate the sin but love the sinner.

this i find far more offensive than the picture . that somehow mike is below you because he dosn't follow the path you chose . that he is not enlightened as you . THIS IS MY HUGE HANGUP ABOUT RELIGIOUS PEOPLE . they believe they are above you moraly , spiritualy and mentaly and that us non-believers should have their pitty upon us . the pic was tasteless but amusing . but getting all sanctamonious and i'm better than you is far more insulting .

btw CDJ i know ure gonna start typing out a " o you do not understand me becasue u don't have the intelligence reply" .fucking save it for someone who cares

[picklemonkey]

Re: miketpoto

drama. fuck 'em all and quit trying to explain yourself.

[miketpoto]

Re: miketpoto

To clarify, I am in no way suggesting that I am deliberately offending people because I was offended in the past. I am merely stating that it was overwhelmingly tolerated, it was blatant in it's personal attack directly towards me, and for whatever fucked reasons was somehow more socially acceptable.

And secondly, i won't delete that post for many reasons (aside from those not reading today having the chance to add/comment/judge/laugh/etc) some of which are...

1- We are all grown-ups, if you dont appreciate the posting then dont repeat-view it.

2- I grew up Catholic and was an alter-boy for several years, my other side of the family is "devoutly" bornagain-christian, my older sister was a minister for 10 years, I have a very good friend who is a lutheran minister, so if we go by baptism/confirmation status you 'could' classify me as christian.

3- If all your offense taken and geniuine hurt from this is that of feeling disrespected, then weigh out the impact of that on your life compared to being denied equal rights using religious justification in a country that was founded and supposedly governed with a separation of church and state. I'm sorry I can't sympathize more with you than this, but then again, I also havent said one damn negative thing about anyone's faith or entitlement to their own beliefs.

4- Insert Censorship Rant Here. Cause do I really need to?

5- If you aren't going to like me due to this, and you find it impossible to think of me as a good person knowing I posted this link to a fucked-up t-shirt, then go ahead and dislike me. I have a very large group of great friends/acquaintances/associates that have known me for quite some time and seem to be able to "deal" with my sense of humor or things that I find funny. And by all means please, be up front about how you feel, I only request that if it is not wanting to look at that "t-shirt design" that you refrain from doing so by voluntarily returning to this thread.

6- Yes I know this sounds bitchy and defensive, but if my apology and explanation of non-malicious intent etc isn't accepted or is repeatedly questioned, I am going to put it into perspective for you.


Now smile, go about your life, laugh out loud that I actually just got called EVIL and added another name to the list of people who will pray for little old me.

[picklemonkey]

Re: miketpoto

As a gay homosexual

wouldn't that make you straight?




humor is humor guys... get over it. if you don't think it's funny just don't laugh. you need to realize America's culture is built around our European rebel/outcast ancestors. We're bound to piss everyone off, just by our nature. I thought that picture was hilarious

[cowardly dj]

Re: miketpoto

When I made this thread it was in a humorus jest to perhaps crack a smile for a few people and even you.

I can see you are a distaseful person and I do not believe that you thought this would be humorus. I an convinced that you intended to insult me and religion.
I do not care and am not insulted. I am sad for you. I know what lies ahead for people who are insistent to do evil. I hope that somewhere in your life someone can show you the right way and I will pray for you. I am willing to teach you about the Bible and show you how to understand it.

Hate the sin but love the sinner.

[shosh]

Re: miketpoto

another thing fitting to this situation would be an edit/delete of that post. that picture was in no way funny/hysterical/retarded. It was of poor taste and total disrespect. And if someone (who doesnt frequent the board anymore) has offended you in the past it is shameful, but it does not justify something this low.

i dont know you and so i have nothing to say in regards to you or your person. this is only in regards to your post. do as all a favor and get rid of it. cheers

[miketpoto]

Re: miketpoto

and for the record, I am staying with friends, one of whom happens to be a lutheran minister.... and he thought it was hysterical and brushed it off as retarded at worst.

And by retarded I mean, "they can do ANYTHING"...

I didn't start this thread, nor did I design or create that image (its from a t-shirt site that acknowlegdes itself as offensive),

NOR DID I GET ANYTHING OTHER THAN A "don't let it get to ya" FROM BOARD ADMIN WHEN I WAS PERSONALLY AND PUBLICLY RIDICULED AND DEGRADED BY A CERTAIN beanzncheez, "He's just always been like that, and it's quirky so we keep him around"

remember that dismissal of respect in regard to it's intentions, just for old time's sake. I am over that, and hold it against no one, but I bring it up only because it's fitting for this situation.

[Kamal]

Re: miketpoto

very poor justification poto, for a person (who in my mind) holds an extremely high level of comprehension to most things that would skip under most commoners.... to let your intelligence use something so "cheap" (for a lack of a better word) in an unintelligent "sexual" connotation way makes it even worse cause it shows a "deliberate attempt" on your part, which in my opinion is far worse than mindless humor....

And how on earth can you say it cannot be construed as evil / hurtful / spiteful when you know well how it would be greeted and u still went ahead and posted it in a thread that belongs to someone who is so deep rooted in his beliefs in christianity when you have the very God he worships in an image like that

this was low mikey, sorry to have to say that but it really fucked up saturday morning having to see that

[asdf_admin]

Re: miketpoto

mike go back to sleep.

perhaps it was too early for -e- and I.

[miketpoto]

Re: miketpoto

Its the humor behind the picture and the play on words (combined with how completely "wrong" the image is in context) while at the same time it says nothing nor criticizes the religion. As a gay homosexual I hold no negative connotations towards nor do I endorse the bum-bumping, however I also don't think of it as anything that can honestly be construed as evil/hurtful/spiteful....

Is it offensive? hell yeah.... but one should never let things that are in no way attacking and/or demeaning to an individual and/or group get the best of themselves. I have never felt personally attacked by cowardly, however I find his biblical sprinklings to be innapropriate in their contexts or perhaps just their frequency. Am I offended or upset for more than a few seconds afterwards, no. Nor do I intend anything other than initial shock and hopefully a few words on what anyone's reaction to it may be.

I never, EVER, claimed to be athiest.... I think the ridicule of beliefs is a stretch for my last posting, as it has nothing to say about the validity or integrity of any of the teachings of Christianity. ( I have technically broken "big" commandments, but thats my cross to bear and is in no way imparted onto anyone else)

Essentially, I apologize for any pain anyone has felt due to any of my postings, I don't ever intend for that as an outcome, but I will share my thoughts on things.... and shit that makes me laugh, even out of sheer ridiculousness. That last post of mine in no way has any association to any individual's feelings.... if anyone's beliefs are so strong and resolute to the point of finding no humor in it, then conversely it should have no affect on what you hold sacred as it does nothing to prevent that.

[asdf_admin]

Re: miketpoto

-e- some do not understand. not even if you were their friend and told them it hurts your feelings. some will continue. i believe it is a fear, hate thing. a personal dilemma. it as if they almost have something to prove.

[Kamal]

Re: miketpoto

humor has its place yao, there's a limit on the vulgarity you choose to describe something that's dear to a lot of people..... and your parents are part of that no limit zone.... throughout my stay here in the US, I find it so odd that people will jump right out and say "yea and so is your mother". While over time I've forced myself to accept it but you couldn't dare to pull that shit off in India. You'd go home with one testicle short of your manhood.

The idea that your liberal jokes (are just jokes) and its ok take them over the edge is the reason people fail to realize their boundaries with humor and create a shit load of problems and issues that could've been kept at bay because of a little bit of empathy for the other persons feelings. The idea is not to laugh at cause you dont believe in it.... I dont believe in jehaadists, but u dont see me mocking allah.....

poor mockery and an even worse explanation / justification if you thought that shit was ok to post

[asdf_admin]

Re: miketpoto

Mike get some class you Homo.

[Yao]

Re: miketpoto



Mike, I love it! Humour should be over the edge sometimes guys, it's just a literal interpretation of one the most commonly used swears in English...so what?

pssshhhtt...

[Corven]

Re: miketpoto

thats just wrong