Some of my research as I promised

[phazon]

Re: Some of my research as I promised

Once again the point of my post was completely missd.
Let me break it down as simple as I can

I have not asked anyone to agree with me. I have put it out there as food for thought.

Putting it out there as food for thought is fine, but then you preach and bitch at people when they don't agree. That's what pisses people off, and makes you look like the one who has a closed mind.

Kinda strange that Katrina devastated NO the week of the gay celebration festivities

Press on people... the truth will be know, but all too late for most.

And then you go and prove yourself to be a sick, twisted fuck - can't even believe you wrote that. E stuck up for you after the last thread like this you started, but I just think you should be kicked off this board tbh. You've got your views and that's fine, why not just keep them to yourself? Leave the preaching to your local sunday school.

[NastyD]

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Been posted on another thread, but rather appropriate here: http://www.humanistsofutah.org/2002/WhyCantIOwnACanadian_10-02.html

btw...

Kinda strange that Katrina devastated NO the week of the gay celebration festivities

Press on people... the truth will be know, but all too late for most.

Ban the bigoted, narrow-minded, bilge spouting motherfucker from our forum.

[Yao]

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Well Cowardly, seems you kinda overstepped yourself here.

I have a nice one for you: if NO was destroyed for such reason, then I'm extremely curious to what will befall my country...But what will you think nothing happens here? We're AT LEAST 10X as bad as NO here according to your views. I haven't seen any gay people in Amsterdam suddenly get a lighting bolt up their ass with some voice from the heavens shouthing "Fuck this for a change you dirty sodomite!" or something as yet.

[Phil Thompson11]

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i feel we are at an age where all religions are in a mess, this is the age of the battle of religions before we wake up and realise we have all been brainwashed by our leaders and there is no point fighting about it as it makes matters worse.

Live is forward in motion--->
Evil is backward in motion---> (also 'live' spelt backwards is 'evil')

Once you step off this tiny spec of matter and look at the big picture you will see that everything around us is an amazing mind blowing fact.

How we will ever understand it.. well we cant.. we are meer children in the eyes of the creators, on a path like at pre school.

We dont have the knowledge or understanding to even grasp the power of the universe and how we actually got here.

One only has to take certain psychedelic natural substances here on earth and you will be shown the power of the universe and then realise there is just no point it preaching to others what is right or wrong and how we got here. As each individula is on a pre-chosen path and will awake when they are good and ready.

we all have massive gaps between our levels of consciousness. One is by no means above another or have any right to dictate to another what they should believe unless they are open and willing to think from a new perspective. Each of us has a reason to be here.

If you told a 2 year old baby that 10 add 10 makes 20 he would look at you and not care and possible giggle as his world is full of magical moments. So you would wait until he was clever enough to explain to him again and then he may understand and use the information for his own good.

So as much as we all go on and on... if your eyes and mind are open then you see the universe intertwined with each other in awe and amazement.

What if we really are all one, and we are aloud to live every single possible permutation of life imaginable throughout the universe, nothing is right or wrong as its all for the same goal, that being the experience of life, living and understanding from the tree of knowledge.

Every planet goes through the fazes we are going through now, just like fazes in a long term relation ship. Many aspects of that relationship are predictable (or estimated) and what this thread had prooven is that people feel strong about this subject as i do.

When strong feelings emerge conflict is inevitable, we are all brainwashed by others, programmed in certain ways by our experiences.

At the end of the day.. somehow you are carbon/stardust - turned into an amazing piece of living flesh, with many universal organs communicating and working together inside to make one living organism called a 'human'. A human that shares the same make up as every living creation on the planet and possibly the universe.

This planet is not alone, and other being's far more advanced than us are watching over and amused at our playground tacktics. So think about your every move and ask is it for the good or for the bad.. the choice is yours and no one can judge you on that. Both are equally needed to create a balance and the whole univers is in balance moving in one direction and then back.


peace all.. and a great topic sparking some deep thoughts, planting seeds in the minds of [ms].

Phil

i leave you with a prayer that is universal for all mankind taken from this site.

http://www.earthways.co.uk/

The Universal Prayer
Our Mother/Father who art within us
Hallowed be our name
Our kingdom here
We will never fear
Earth, heaven and hell are one

Share with us this day
Our daily love and forgive our negative thoughts
As we forgive those who are negative towards us

Teach us compassion and patience
And guide us into abundant love
For ours is the kingdom
The power and the wisdom
Forever and Ever
WE ARE ONE

AMEN
OM MANI PADME HUM
ONE LOVE.

By Sal Trussler

[NastyD]

Re: Some of my research as I promised

Well Cowardly, seems you kinda overstepped yourself here.

I have a nice one for you: if NO was destroyed for such reason, then I'm extremely curious to what will befall my country...But what will you think nothing happens here? We're AT LEAST 10X as bad as NO here according to your views. I haven't seen any gay people in Amsterdam suddenly get a lighting bolt up their ass with some voice from the heavens shouthing "Fuck this for a change you dirty sodomite!" or something as yet.

Please, please, please take this comment as being extremely tongue in cheek, but isn't the Netherlands mostly under sea level and protected by a system of damns???

[Yao]

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Yea i know hehhe...but would a pissed off god not have the power to destroy those dams created by us mere mortals? Anyway, was just joking a bit on that one...I thought that was pretty obvious

I think it is extremely arrogant though to tell the people from NO that they got punished for their 'sins' and then try to back it up by posting about Sodom and Gomorra. Really really cheap, and incredibly painful for those involved, especially given the fact that a large part of the NO inhabitants were for sure deeply religious people as well. Try to defend such a remark to them, and they might just start questioning your faith.

A Christian flatmate of mine just told me that the most important given is to love everyone, and God above all. She was pretty much shocked to learn a Christian person actually said something like Cowardly did. That says it all to me....

[NastyD]

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^^^ What he said.

I repeat - ban Cowardly. If he wants to post food for thought so that the rest of us can either support or argue with him then fine, but the latest comment from him has no more place on this forum than, say, racial intolerance or child porn would.

[Kamal]

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I hate to admit it as it were ..... being God fearing - irrespective of what color he is or what book brings him to life or what mass of people has moved you to become a believer of a certain religion - that Katrina comment striking during Gay Week is THE MOST dumbest thing I've read in my life and using God to disguise your hatred towards a group of people is NO DIFFERENT than what Bin Laden is doing. Only Bin Laden put his plans into actions while you expressed your views on a message board...

CDJ, what you wrote about Katrina was not even toilet bowl worthy because flushing it would mean you're giving it a second thought..... sorry mate, you did fuck yourself in the ass with that one.

[Yao]

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I do oppose a ban however guys: some people also strongly disagreed with Miketpoto's funny as fuck JFC pic...he wasn't banned for that either. It's a thin line we're walking here, I want to see if CDJ has something to say in his defense.

One difference though: Mike's intention was not to hurt anyone, but this exclamation cannot not be interpreted otherwise IMO.

[Kobe]

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CDJ, I too am shocked by your Katrina remark. Whether you are banned or stay is irrelevant at this point, you've lost my respect and I no longer have any interest in what you have to say if that is reflectant upon who you are.

[ubiqe]

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Been posted on another thread, but rather appropriate here: http://www.humanistsofutah.org/2002/WhyCantIOwnACanadian_10-02.html

exactly what I wanted to post... Read well, cdj, maybe you can answer these questions...

[cowardly dj]

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I did not say that is what happened in NO. I am not even suggesting that I think it is what happened. I do not know. I am only suggesting possibilities. It is well within Gods ability to do that. If you think I am a bad person because I suggest multiple possibilities for things happening around us then so be it.

It is well within God's providence to do that. It has been done numerous times throught history.

Do a google search and put in the words cup of iniquity and maybe you will see some of the times it was done. All throught the Bible God has given man a chance to repent and He has said to some of his prophets "their cup of iniquity is not yet full" and then when He felt it was full He did what He thought was needed.

Just because it may be hard to swallow that God does punish unrighteousness does not mean that He does not do so. It also does not mean that it should not be talked about because it may go against the grain.

I can not prove it and am not so arrogant to think that I know for sure he did that. As I stated it is only something to think about as a possibility.

So it seems controversial to some but others may sit and think hmmmmmmmmmmm. Controversy has spawned great change and is a part of life. I do not avoid it simply for the fact that it may hurt someones feelings or go against what they believe.

If I lose respect because I suggest something controversial even though I did not state it is what I believe, then so be it. You call me closed minded for suggesting possibilities. Some of you should try the shoe on. You may find it fits.

FYI that suggestion came from someone talking on FOX news during Katrina. I am just echoing it.

[bart_smastard]

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Why is americas tornado alley slap bang in the middle of americas most god fearing states?
Why does the former pope, hand picked by gods highest ranking representatives of his , get struck down with parkinsons ?
Why did the crusades carried out on his wishes not destroy all those who failed to believe ?



And why have " Manchester United " gods own football team only won two european cups .

God acts in mysterious ways or more than likely
He dosn't act at all

People should be allowed to say as they please and if they lose the respect of others doing so then that's the price they pay.

And CDJ if others think you are a fool ,it's best not to open your mouth and remove all doubt

[toasty]

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Kinda strange that Katrina devastated NO the week of the gay celebration festivities

dude, that is just vicious. I can't believe you would even imply such a thing.

And don't give us that shit about, "oh, I'm just throwing out possibilities, just throwing out food for thought." It's bigotry, plain and simple. What makes it worse, though, is that it is bigotry in the name of God. You should be ashamed to align yourself with God.

[Kobe]

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Actually you didn't post the Katrina comment to raise a question, you used it as a personal attack against someone who was questioning your beliefs, a subject you brought up in the first place. Not cool.