Some of my research as I promised

[cowardly dj]

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Actually you didn't post the Katrina comment to raise a question, you used it as a personal attack against someone who was questioning your beliefs, a subject you brought up in the first place. Not cool.

ummmmm, who did I attack with that

[Kobe]

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[Yao]

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I am actually thinking I should give up now. There's no arguing or discussing with a brick.

[cowardly dj]

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I assume that most have heard of Rosa Parks and of her death recently.
For those who may not know she was the lady back in segregation days that sat in a white persons seat on a public bus and refused to move and she was taken to jail.

Lets pretend that ms was alive back then and she was a member. It need not be said that there were and still are two opposite views on segregation. There are those who deeply believe in segregation as deeply as those who oppose it.

So if Rosa was to come on ms back then and post something like "I think all people are the same. It does not matter what color you are. I should not have been arrested for trying to be equal. I do not care what anyone says., I think anyone who agrees with segregation is wrong. God will punish those who do not believe."

I am certain that she would have been attacked very viciously for that. Does that make her wrong because people do not agree with her, or does that simply mean that there are different views on a subject. Think about what would have been said about a white person who would have agreed with her

Is there any doubt that Rosa believed deeply in her cause? Is there any doubt that those who were pro-segregation believed just as deeply?

So who was right, and why? Is it right to not segregate just because some think it should not be? Should it be OK to segregate just because some agree with it?

We all agree with things and disagree with things based on our experiences and interactions and by spending time thinking about a situation.

Talking about God is more controversial than talking about race. People who have responded in this thread have come to this thread with preconceived notions about God and religion. None of you know me aside from what you have read in my posts.

I have not asked anyone to believe what I am saying. I have only made posts and put some of my thoughts and some things I have heard or read. If you go back and read the threads and posts you will not see me asking anyone to believe what I am saying. You will not see me calling people names for things they post. You will not see me saying that people are closed minded, stupid, or any other thing derogative to anyone. Yet in every thread I have started I have been belittled on all sides. I do not care about that, as it is only words coming from people who have no idea who I am. It just makes for a point.

The point is this, when you read something, you do not know the emotions of the person typing it. Emotions are not available in type. You only know the emotions that you brought to your computer when you sat down.

Most if not all of you have come to these threads I have started with preconceived notions about God and religion in general. I am aware of that and I do not take it personal, as I know you guys are attacking God and not me. It is not the first time as nearly every time I have a conversation, about religion, be it in person or online, it is the same.

I have posted my thoughts and things I have learned over the years to share them with you so you can decide for yourselves what to believe. I do not impose anything on anyone as it is not the way of God. It is your choice.

If you think I posted the NO comment as a hate comment lets not forget you do not know how I feel about that. You read black and white and added your emotion on the subject to it, not mine.

I do not hate anyone and do not attack anyone beliefs. If you can not handle a comment on a subject then check your emotions at the topic page and try to be less subjective and more objective.

As I said in an earlier post, I was echoing something I heard on TV about NO. If you think it was an attack on mike because it is the next post after his then you are assuming, and assuming wrong. I do not attack people like that as it is disgraceful and sinful. Perhaps I should have started it in a new thread to eliminate any association to this thread as it was a different thought all together than this but I did not see the need to start a new thread as it is at least on the same subject, just a different direction of this thread.

To say I am the same as Bin Laden, or a sick twisted ____, or a moron because I posted something outside your way of thinking is the epitome of the very thing you are accusing me of.... closed-mindedness.

[bart_smastard]

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Rosa Parks fought for her rights saying she was equal . Fair point
You incinuated gay ppl should die for they are less than you
I support you on freedom of speach CDJ but don't confuse right from wrong

[miketpoto]

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There could be a long version of my response, a really long version, but I think 4 words will convey the point just as well as it doesnt matter how much logic or sense you use with this guy... This might not be my most eloquent post, but it comes from the bottom of my faggotty little heart...

CDJ is a Pussy!

[ubiqe]

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just to go back to your original post, your counting does not add up at all anyway. you assumed all the events were independent which clearly is not the case... such understanding of probability and statistics wouldn't bring you far in science

[toasty]

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some inapplicable analogy to Rosa Parks

There's a big difference here, CDJ. Her views were progressive. Yours are regressive. Comparing yourself to Rosa Parks demonstrates how detached from reality you are.

I have not asked anyone to believe what I am saying. I have only made posts and put some of my thoughts and some things I have heard or read.

That's a complete cop-out. I'll begrudgingly concede it to be a fair point re your religious beliefs (although I think you do far more preaching, judging, and persuassion than you seem willing to admit), but when you add onto that, "Oh by the way, New Orleans got what what it deserved because it was sanctioning homosexual behavior," it is just beyond the pale.

As I said in an earlier post, I was echoing something I heard on TV about NO. If you think it was an attack on mike because it is the next post after his then you are assuming, and assuming wrong. I do not attack people like that as it is disgraceful and sinful. Perhaps I should have started it in a new thread to eliminate any association to this thread as it was a different thought all together than this but I did not see the need to start a new thread as it is at least on the same subject, just a different direction of this thread.

... and might I add, the whole, "I'm only repeating what someone on Fox News said" or "That wasn't directed at anyone," is revisionist history to the point of being laughable.

[cowardly dj]

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just to go back to your original post, your counting does not add up at all anyway. you assumed all the events were independent which clearly is not the case... such understanding of probability and statistics wouldn't bring you far in science

enlighten me then. If I need correcting then by all means do so. I am always looking for more knowledge.

[cowardly dj]

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Rosa Parks fought for her rights saying she was equal . Fair point
You incinuated gay ppl should die for they are less than you
I support you on freedom of speach CDJ but don't confuse right from wrong

i did not insunuate gay people should die and i certainly have not incinuated ever in my life that gay people are less than me, in fact I do not think anyone is less than the other. I think we are all guided in different directions due to culture, upbringing, TV, conversatoins etc. etc. etc.

I did however say God could have had a hand in what happened to NO

and as far as confusing right from wrong you need to explain what you are using as a guide for what is right and wrong. Who says your right is my wrong and my right is yours. because as demonstrated in this forum everyones guide is not the same and that is why there is so much confusion in the world

[ubiqe]

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Right kind of galaxy............................................ ..1 in 100
Being in the right place in the galaxy.......................1 in 150
Having the right kind of star as a sun......................1 in 1000
Being the right distance from the star (sun).............1 in 10
Having the proper planetary mass..........................1 in 10
Having the proper planetary spin............................1 in 10
Having the proper planetary tilt...............................1 in 10
Having comet sweeping planets..............................1 in 40
Not being near a black hole....................................1 in 250
Having a large solitary moon...................................1 in 10
Possessing a magnetic field capable of shielding........1 in 10
Now do the math and we come up with..................1 in 150,000,000,000,000,000

How can you assume that the mass of earth, it's spin, position in the galaxy, magnetic field do not depend on each other? Or rather are not effects of the same forces? There are different algorithms for calculating probabilities of coocurrence interdependent and independed events. And the difference is huge, as with independent events the probability falls with geometric speed, with dependent it might not fall AT ALL. For example, by your way of counting having one blue eye will be FAR more probable than having both eyes blue... If we assume 1 in 10 people have blue eyes it will be 1/10 compared to 1/100. Which clearly is not the case...

[bart_smastard]

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i did not insunuate gay people should die and i certainly have not incinuated ever in my life that gay people are less than me
I did however say God could have had a hand in what happened to NO

and as far as confusing right from wrong you need to explain what you are using as a guide for what is right and wrong.

I have mentioned this earlier a few times you claim to be or are an intelligent person but somehow you either fail to understand what you say , or was incapable of interpreting what you think . Or once you make a statement and realise the reaction it creates you back track giving the impression you havn't realy thought about your wording at all. You are the one constantly telling us about ure reading and analising abilities ( bad spelling it's late i'm lil worse for wear) . Do yourself a favour and put them into practice

[cowardly dj]

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How can you assume that the mass of earth, it's spin, position in the galaxy, magnetic field do not depend on each other? Or rather are not effects of the same forces? There are different algorithms for calculating probabilities of coocurrence interdependent and independed events. And the difference is huge, as with independent events the probability falls with geometric speed, with dependent it might not fall AT ALL. For example, by your way of counting having one blue eye will be FAR more probable than having both eyes blue... If we assume 1 in 10 people have blue eyes it will be 1/10 compared to 1/100. Which clearly is not the case...

In order to sustain life on earth all these factors must be present at the same time.
Closely looking at our other planets reveals that lacking one can cause that planet to be inhospitable. Take Pluto for example. It is too far away from the sun to sustain life for many reasons.

So the calculations are correct because all are needed at the same time to make earth hospitable.

[cowardly dj]

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I. Or once you make a statement and realise the reaction it creates you back track giving the impression you havn't realy thought about your wording at all.

No backtracking here.

You have confused bactracking with explaining more in depth.

Bactracking in the context in which you mean it would be taking the comment and saying something like "That is not what I said, I said this"

Explaining more in depth would be like this "OK you misunderstood that here try it like this"

Big difference.

[toasty]

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In order to sustain life on earth all these factors must be present at the same time.
Closely looking at our other planets reveals that lacking one can cause that planet to be inhospitable. Take Pluto for example. It is too far away from the sun to sustain life for many reasons.

So the calculations are correct because all are needed at the same time to make earth hospitable.

No, it's not that easy. It could be the case that the spin and tilt that make life here possible are a function of the earth's mass. It could be that the earth's mass and the fact that it only has one moon are related.

I'm talking out of my ass here and am not professing to have any specialized knowledge about whether or not these things are interrelated, but the fact is that you can't automatically assume that they are all completely independent, either...