good designer, bad designer. (bill perkins) (this will make your day)

[miketpoto]

Re: good designer, bad designer. (bill perkins) (this will make your day)

Yer going to be hearing from my attourneys in about 2 hours. Just to warn you, cuz, ya know.... normally when people get sued for real in the real world place, they make it a surprise and they gloat afterwards, cause they had lawyers that like, called and sued and motherfuckin ..... fasten yer seatbelt, This isn't Ron Burgendy.

[asdf_admin]

Re: good designer, bad designer. (bill perkins) (this will make your day)

"Hi John ... You are getting sued"

[miketpoto]

Re: good designer, bad designer. (bill perkins) (this will make your day)

Dearest Jonathan.... You are Getting Sued. You're gonna post this.

[palmer]

Re: good designer, bad designer. (bill perkins) (this will make your day)

I want more messages. The latest are good but I want some more.

[Hos]

Re: good designer, bad designer. (bill perkins)

"Turn up the sound, turn down the lights and hold on to you seat while we Kick it up a notch!"

http://www.perkinsbell.com/demo1.html

hos ^ you will love that. anyone that can call that design needs to take a giant leap out of the nearest window.

it's like a pastiche of everything that's bad about design. the worst clipart, the worst typography. i literally laughed out loud when the code started scrolling and we saw the intelligent design.

shocking. how can people make money doing that. he must be the poster boy for microsoft publisher.

[Hos]

Re: good designer, bad designer. (bill perkins) (this will make your day)

An open letter to the group:

I can’t begin to express my feelings at the turn of events over the previous 24 hours. It’s come as quite a shock to say the least.

Let’s start at the top shall we?
I make no apologies or excuses for my quality of web design. I’m learning a new technology and medium. Do I claim to know it all? Nope. Is this my first foray into learning and experimenting with flash? Yup. Does it show? Evidently, judging from the harsh criticisms I’m getting from my peers in this group. But is this really about the quality of my work? No. This is about integrity, and the actions of my former partner. You can be the best designer in the world, but at the end of they day you have to know how to treat your clients with respect, and even your peers - even if you disagree with them. I admit it. I designed these sites you are ripping apart . Yup. All mine.

Do I think the perkinsbell site and demo could be improved -and revamped - or the navigation system on anthony liggins.com could be improved. Of course, and actually they were in the process of undergoing a major overhaul until all this hit the fan. Too much gitch and glam. Too lean on functionality and usability. What can I say, after doing a bizillion sites of “CLICK HERE” you ache to push the envelope and do something different - right or wrong. I do appreciate the constructive criticism however. This is really more about forging good client/designer relationships, and your standing in the community at large. This is tough business, and your reputation as a business person is equally - if not more important - than your skills as an artist. That’s why I’m here to say I’m sorry my firm was involved and implicated in this fiasco. For what it’s worth, Bill and I have parted company as a result of this and I’ll be doing business under my old site. In time, I may earn your respect as a designer … but in the meantime, I hope you can at least earn my respect first as a person. So let’s set the record straight. I was the designer at perkinsbell, not Bill. If you have any helpful critiqes that will impove my skills, or recommend any resources that would better my understanding - please share them. Otherwise, ripping me a new one isn’t really going to help. Please don’t email me about Bill and this whole situation - it’s difficult enough as it is trying to get my bearings now that my dream of building a busness doing what I love has been obliterated overnight.

The best thing any of you can do, is let this situation cool down so I can do damage control with my clients. I fear, Bill’s path will eventually lead him to a place none of us really want to follow, and the best thing you could do is encourage him to get help as I have done.

Peace to you, and thanks for your time.
Ted Bell

[Hos]

Re: good designer, bad designer. (bill perkins) (this will make your day)

haha this is serious

http://www.verhine.com/temp/billperkins.html

has anyone got copies of voicemail #4 and #5 they can send me, thanks in advance

[palmer]

Re: good designer, bad designer. (bill perkins) (this will make your day)

I do.

Its a damn shame what has happened to ted. I read on a few seperate forums that people were directing bell+perkins clients to the site with the voicemails. I can only imagine how difficult it is going to be for him to get business going again.

[Hos]

Re: good designer, bad designer. (bill perkins) (this will make your day)

it would be nice if a few people got together and helped him rebrand himself

[Yao]

Re: good designer, bad designer. (bill perkins) (this will make your day)

Yeah, this is kinda getting a nasty taste now...Seems Perkins has actually fucked up Ted's aspirations and effort to become a designer overnight: I can't blame him for parting ways with Bill at all I gotta say. As someone that wishes to someday call himself a true designer himself, I can't but feel really sorry for Ted.

And his letter shows clearly that he's a whole different person, really open to constructive criticism and willing to learn to get better. I really hope that the guy from Vehine.com will set this straight, because it would be very unfair to not do so: Bill deserves an ass-spanking, but the complainant is now also partly responsible for Ted's problems. I think a nice piece written to clear his name is in order...

[asdf_admin]

Re: good designer, bad designer. (bill perkins) (this will make your day)

it's sad.