Someone explain the stigma associated w/ james lavelle...

[cowardly dj]

Re: Someone explain the stigma associated w/ james lavelle...

there is a guy at work who has the same name as JL


Correct me if I am wrong but when you go out to see a EDM DJ, arent you expecting a smooth transition of some sort between tracks and at least some decent mixing?

If you wanted to hear a good variety of songs then go to a top 40 club and drink Smirnoff Ice with all the other slaves to the corporate fodder

[GregWhelan]

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I think it's just a combo of poor dj skills and poor track selection. I've never been to a gig, but I can't remember hearing a decent review of one of his show's. All I hear is that he's played In A State or Psiko garden again and agin.

Look at romania - hardly any devolution from the unkle/meat katie sound. It just smacks of laziness IMO.

Think a lot of people just can't see how lavelle gets big gigs, clears floors, when there are gifted dj's like lisle and masiello who still arent household names yet

[jeffrey collins]

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when it comes to UNKLE. I really don't think lavelle has a whole lot to do with it. I think it's primarily Dj Shadow's project.

I've only listened to the barcelona cd's and didn't really care for it too much.

If you don't like him so much then why do you keep bringing it up. Do something about it and go out and dj and produce your fucking head off, and then maybe people will start talking about you.

[Kobe]

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I think it's just a combo of poor dj skills and poor track selection.

umm, what exactly is left after that? A good booking agent, I guess

[day_for_night]

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Why all the negative criticism....blablablabla....dont u realize the effort these djs put into there sets...blablblabla

you better be able to take the criticism if your gonna dish it out...blbablabllbalblabla

aww muffin...i'm making a valid point. you weren't...deal with it.

[day_for_night]

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haha, touche! It would seem that for some, negative criticism is only acceptable when it is their own.

that's pretty far from the truth. he was making a criticism about the style of music played (which is personal preference and is totally *subjective*). i was talking about lavelle's mixing skills...something entirely *objective*. i didnt say anything about the style of music he played...cause he is a great producer.

[Kobe]

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*Subjective* as in: he's not entitled to his opinion? Who made the rule that we can't dislike a DJ's selection?

If Diggers plays all Top 40 in his next show, I will shit on it, maybe you will like it. It might be technically brilliant Top 40, but I happen to not care for the style. So what exactly is the difference, mate? Selection and mixing are the 2 main ingredients that make up a set, and either is grounds for criticism. At least Chuck was polite and complementary towards Osamu, meanwhile you have lit up 2 DJs in the past week, totally ripping them to shreds.

As far as I'm concerned you are BOTH entitled to an opinion, regardless if it concerns the mixing, the selection, or even personality (e.g. primadonna). And when either of you have an opinion, I hope you come on here and express it, good or bad.

[hulkhuss]

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Barcelona was very good imo

[day_for_night]

Re: Someone explain the stigma associated w/ james lavelle...

*Subjective* as in: he's not entitled to his opinion? Who made the rule that we can't dislike a DJ's selection?

If Diggers plays all Top 40 in his next show, I will shit on it, maybe you will like it. It might be technically brilliant Top 40, but I happen to not care for the style. So what exactly is the difference, mate? Selection and mixing are the 2 main ingredients that make up a set, and either is grounds for criticism. At least Chuck was polite and complementary towards Osamu, meanwhile you have lit up 2 DJs in the past week, totally ripping them to shreds.

As far as I'm concerned you are BOTH entitled to an opinion, regardless if it concerns the mixing, the selection, or even personality (e.g. primadonna). And when either of you have an opinion, I hope you come on here and express it, good or bad.

no no...you can not like a dj's selection, but if you can tell the person put some effort into it, and its mixed well, then whats the point of bashing their selection? its not your cup of tea...move on. I dont like dn'b...you dont hear me bashing dn'b djs cause of what they played. they like it, if they put effort into it, then i respect them no matter how i feel about what they play.

However, both of my gripes with the respective dj's were based on things that a dj (or anyone in general) should be...GOOD at their job and humble/polite. lavelle has a problem with the former, morillo the later.

[nicomax]

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Haven't heard him live but I've heard a couple of live sets and his GU albums. I agree that he just likes to spin different types of music that makes it hard to beatmatch them.

I'm a huge fan of UNKLE so I guess I don't care if he can't put together a couple of tracks.

[galo]

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when it comes to UNKLE. I really don't think lavelle has a whole lot to do with it. I think it's primarily Dj Shadow's project.
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Dj Shadow left Unkle long ago. Unkle are now James Lavelle and Richard File

[hulkhuss]

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Dj Shadow left Unkle long ago. Unkle are now James Lavelle and Richard File

yeah but we still like giving Dj Shadow all the credit

[Luis Dena]

Re: Someone explain the stigma associated w/ james lavelle...

*Subjective* as in: he's not entitled to his opinion? Who made the rule that we can't dislike a DJ's selection?

If Diggers plays all Top 40 in his next show, I will shit on it, maybe you will like it. It might be technically brilliant Top 40, but I happen to not care for the style. So what exactly is the difference, mate? Selection and mixing are the 2 main ingredients that make up a set, and either is grounds for criticism. At least Chuck was polite and complementary towards Osamu, meanwhile you have lit up 2 DJs in the past week, totally ripping them to shreds.

As far as I'm concerned you are BOTH entitled to an opinion, regardless if it concerns the mixing, the selection, or even personality (e.g. primadonna). And when either of you have an opinion, I hope you come on here and express it, good or bad.

i have seen him live and he sucks ass, no mixing skills i mean he really sucks, and he played in a state twice that night, i dont know why he gets booked, IMO shadow is the one behind UNKLE...

[neoee]

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I gotta admit, his first GU was good, the second was trash. Also saw him live a couple times here, shit. The last time he came around here the promoter needed my A&H mixer for the show, put me on the list and I still didn't go. Also saw him during WMC opening up for S&D, as did many others here. Totally killed the vibe that Zabs and Catteneo created. Everyone started booing him. The look on Digweed's face said it alone. He must have been thinking, "who booked this clown?".

[BureOne]

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Well I've seen him recently. At Avalon. went to see James Holden and JL opened up. The beginning was alright. Not my type of music but I stayed on the dancefloor moving and groovin, having fun with my friends.

After a while though, the music started to get to me. Mixing began to get worse and so did the tracks, then he ended his set with some trance shite! Myself and others were just standing starring at him while of course others were still dancing with they're arms in the air.

In regards to music type vs mixing skills, well.....

I dont like DnB. I went to see Oakey (reminder this is AGES ago) and some dnb guy opened up for him. This guy kicked ass, mixing was spot on and really damn good. Needlsess to say, I ended up buying a cd from this guy and still pop it in once in a while. His name was rock raider or something like that.