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    Getting Somewhere
    • Jun 2004
    • 138

    #31
    Originally posted by day_for_night
    Originally posted by Civic_Zen
    Its obviously then that you need to learn more about your own country.

    A pack of ciggerettes cost $4.50 or something canadian the last time I was in vancouver, after taxes it was $6.50. Beer was the same, the taxes were high on everything I bought, I wasn't even talking about income taxes because obviously, I've never worked in canada.

    I do however have family and friends that live there. And they tell me about how much higher income taxes are there, taxes AS A WHOLE are all higher in Canada.

    Regarding free enterprise. My best friends Uncle owned a game place sort of like Chuck E Cheeses here in the states, used to be called ShowBiz. Well, the canadian government decided that they had to tear the place down to build a new highway and he was screwed.

    He couldn't do anything because the government owns the land, and the business itself actually. Free enterprise is where you start a business and you own it, period. Canada does not have that and if you think otherwise you need to go read some books on your own country. The government owns YOUR business.

    And don't start with the "Canadian government helps you start it and gives you a grant" Yes, that is true, but you can do the same thing in America. I've gotten approved for $50,000+ government grant to start my own business, and I guarentee I could get much more. Because thats how America is, they want you to own your own business.

    Not to mention the $2,000 tax free grant I got for a down payment on a house, because the government wants you to own a house. Thats $2k that I will never ever have to pay back, tax free. Because my taxes pay for that. The taxes in Canada are outragiously high.

    And regarding helthcare, well, that same Uncle who owned the business also had heart problems. He was schd for surgery 2 years out, that he needed within a couple months to survive. So he came to Seattle and payed out of his own pocket for his surgery. These are things I learned from people that live there, family and friends. They know their healthcare system sucks. Just wait a couple years and you'll know what I'm talking about.

    PS ..... Oh and the "eh" thing was a complete joke, I was just messing around. I have absolutely nothing against Canadians, just their government. And even their government only bothers me because of some of the things they've done to effect people I know, otherwise I could care less what they do.

    PPS ..... Your government is more Socialist then you think there bud.
    ehh keep thinking thats all correct. your friend's uncles business...it was expropriated for a legitimate reason. this happens in every single country in the world, including your beloved US of A. it is accepted international law, and its perfectly legal as long as its done indiscriminantly and adequate and prompt compensation are payed. (gasp, i did learn something in that class). if your friend's uncle doesnt think he got paid fairly, tell him to sue...if he has a case, he'll win.

    second, you think the canadian gov't does that shit all the time??? lol. far far from it. you are just as free to cary out whatever business you want here as you are in the states. and unlike you, i've lived in both countries, so i actually have first hand experience; secondhand stories dont quite cut it.

    the taxes thing...they tax beer and cigarettes cause they are BAD for you. smokes are about 10 bucks canadian (7.50 usd) so that young people wont smoke...and it does work. even older people are quitting cause its too expensive. income taxes are NOT that bad when compared to other centre-left countries. the average canadian pays around 30% income tax. when you think about all the extra things we get for that compared to a US citizen (ie. a top ten ranked education system, free healthcare) it more than makes up for it. your country, on the other hand, is ranked 18th in the world in terms of education. EIGHTIENTH!!! you are the worlds biggest super power, yet you cant seem to educate or heal your people. i'm sick, i go to see a doctor...i need a prescription...its affordable. same goes for everyone else. what does someone who lives in the states, earns minimum wage, and has no insurance do?

    we are consistently ranked in the top 3 countries in the world to live in by the UN (we were #1 for 5 or 6 years in a row up until recently). how exactly can you criticize us and say you have it better there? you need to start taking care of your own instead of fucking them over...thats not a socialist view point, its a humanitarian one. i'm 100% for working for what you get, infact most of my views are right of center.

    just my $0.02.

    well said my friend!! long live canada!!

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    • xeb
      Addiction started
      • Jun 2004
      • 364

      #32
      Re:: ahh canada, how i love thee

      Originally posted by robprunzit
      Xeb, maybe you got the whole thing confused. The thread was introduce about Canada and 15 grams applied to their system. I really would be surprise if we measure pot differently now, though it could be so. Easy mistake to make
      yeah could be mate, i don't live in the states, i just have this memory of an american mate going on about measures in grams... could be wrong. no idea what a nickel and dime bag are... presume that refers to the weights of the coins?

      UK is just fucked up. ok i can understand still selling weed in 1/8ths of an oz since thats the way its always been done, but how the fuck can a country with the metric system still measure travel distances in miles and speed in miles per hour
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      • Morgan
        Platinum Poster
        • Jun 2004
        • 2234

        #33
        Re:: ahh canada, how i love thee

        Originally posted by xeb
        Originally posted by robprunzit
        Xeb, maybe you got the whole thing confused. The thread was introduce about Canada and 15 grams applied to their system. I really would be surprise if we measure pot differently now, though it could be so. Easy mistake to make
        yeah could be mate, i don't live in the states, i just have this memory of an american mate going on about measures in grams... could be wrong. no idea what a nickel and dime bag are... presume that refers to the weights of the coins?

        UK is just fucked up. ok i can understand still selling weed in 1/8ths of an oz since thats the way its always been done, but how the fuck can a country with the metric system still measure travel distances in miles and speed in miles per hour
        Because it?s Britian. Miles are based on yards, which is the historical mesurement from the Roman times, the length of a Legionnaries stride. Before Europe started mesing with our system everything was all inerconnected, furlongs and miles, fathoms and feet, feet and inches etc.

        Now it?s all messed up and we have bits of this and that. Also generally no Brit has any concept of KM?s.
        "Pain is only weakness leaving the body."

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          Getting Somewhere
          • Jun 2004
          • 138

          #34
          Re:: ahh canada, how i love thee

          Originally posted by xeb
          Originally posted by robprunzit
          Xeb, maybe you got the whole thing confused. The thread was introduce about Canada and 15 grams applied to their system. I really would be surprise if we measure pot differently now, though it could be so. Easy mistake to make
          yeah could be mate, i don't live in the states, i just have this memory of an american mate going on about measures in grams... could be wrong. no idea what a nickel and dime bag are... presume that refers to the weights of the coins?

          UK is just fucked up. ok i can understand still selling weed in 1/8ths of an oz since thats the way its always been done, but how the fuck can a country with the metric system still measure travel distances in miles and speed in miles per hour
          here is how we use the terminology in canada...

          nickel = .5 cents nickel bag = .5 gram
          dime = .10 cents dime bag = 1 gram

          hope that helps

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          • CatZ
            Getting Somewhere
            • Jul 2004
            • 157

            #35
            I am moving to canada!!
            Peace!

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