Originally posted by day_for_night
Originally posted by Civic_Zen
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A pack of ciggerettes cost $4.50 or something canadian the last time I was in vancouver, after taxes it was $6.50. Beer was the same, the taxes were high on everything I bought, I wasn't even talking about income taxes because obviously, I've never worked in canada.
I do however have family and friends that live there. And they tell me about how much higher income taxes are there, taxes AS A WHOLE are all higher in Canada.
Regarding free enterprise. My best friends Uncle owned a game place sort of like Chuck E Cheeses here in the states, used to be called ShowBiz. Well, the canadian government decided that they had to tear the place down to build a new highway and he was screwed.
He couldn't do anything because the government owns the land, and the business itself actually. Free enterprise is where you start a business and you own it, period. Canada does not have that and if you think otherwise you need to go read some books on your own country. The government owns YOUR business.
And don't start with the "Canadian government helps you start it and gives you a grant" Yes, that is true, but you can do the same thing in America. I've gotten approved for $50,000+ government grant to start my own business, and I guarentee I could get much more. Because thats how America is, they want you to own your own business.
Not to mention the $2,000 tax free grant I got for a down payment on a house, because the government wants you to own a house. Thats $2k that I will never ever have to pay back, tax free. Because my taxes pay for that. The taxes in Canada are outragiously high.
And regarding helthcare, well, that same Uncle who owned the business also had heart problems. He was schd for surgery 2 years out, that he needed within a couple months to survive. So he came to Seattle and payed out of his own pocket for his surgery. These are things I learned from people that live there, family and friends. They know their healthcare system sucks. Just wait a couple years and you'll know what I'm talking about.
PS ..... Oh and the "eh" thing was a complete joke, I was just messing around. I have absolutely nothing against Canadians, just their government. And even their government only bothers me because of some of the things they've done to effect people I know, otherwise I could care less what they do.
PPS ..... Your government is more Socialist then you think there bud.
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second, you think the canadian gov't does that shit all the time??? lol. far far from it. you are just as free to cary out whatever business you want here as you are in the states. and unlike you, i've lived in both countries, so i actually have first hand experience; secondhand stories dont quite cut it.
the taxes thing...they tax beer and cigarettes cause they are BAD for you. smokes are about 10 bucks canadian (7.50 usd) so that young people wont smoke...and it does work. even older people are quitting cause its too expensive. income taxes are NOT that bad when compared to other centre-left countries. the average canadian pays around 30% income tax. when you think about all the extra things we get for that compared to a US citizen (ie. a top ten ranked education system, free healthcare) it more than makes up for it. your country, on the other hand, is ranked 18th in the world in terms of education. EIGHTIENTH!!! you are the worlds biggest super power, yet you cant seem to educate or heal your people. i'm sick, i go to see a doctor...i need a prescription...its affordable. same goes for everyone else. what does someone who lives in the states, earns minimum wage, and has no insurance do?
we are consistently ranked in the top 3 countries in the world to live in by the UN (we were #1 for 5 or 6 years in a row up until recently). how exactly can you criticize us and say you have it better there? you need to start taking care of your own instead of fucking them over...thats not a socialist view point, its a humanitarian one. i'm 100% for working for what you get, infact most of my views are right of center.
just my $0.02.
well said my friend!! long live canada!!
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