Does 'E' make a difference!!

[cowardly dj]

Re: Does 'E' make a difference!!

Music is some form has been around looooooooooooooooooong before X. To even suggest that drugs change the music is a unintelligent thing to think.

It is not the music that changes. It is you.

Lets examine some facts.
1. you listen to a song.
2. you like said song
3. you take a mind altering substance that is completely foreign to your body. drugs are as natural to the body as putting mustard in the gas tank of your car.
4. you listen to said song again while under the influence of of a mind altering drug
5. you think song sounds "different"
6. you say to to others man that song sounds different and sooooooooooo good
7. you come out of your mind altering state
8. you hear said song again and it sounds one of two ways
(a)the same
(b) not the same


Also take into consideration that the actual song and its presentation do not change. The song will always sond the same as it was recorded onto the cd.

So given the evidence can you decide what is changing?

[Mr.Big]

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I took some E last night.. drugs are bad boys and girls..

I have a bad bad hangover/comedown today...uhhh

[bart_smastard]

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Drugs ARE bad for you . Alcohol is bad for you . Ciggarettes are bad for you . Fast food is bad for you . Working is bad for your health too . Too much salt is bad .Music too loud is bad .Kids can destroy ure life . The list does go on and on and on . What suits one person dosn't suit another . Branding something illegal dosn't make it worse for you than something else . However the wrong drug with the wrong person at the wrong moment can ruin their lives in a night . Extasy can make you attach a memory with a track making it special in your mind forever . But one bad night can ruin ure perception of life and the music . These sort of drugs are mood enhancers and can fuck you up in a good way or a bad way . It is a risk . The odds are in your favour but if your happy and you enjoy your night anyway it is up to you if you think the risk is worth taking . I do appologise for saying everyone should try everything once because it is a gamble and you have alot to lose if it dosn't pay off . Alot of us have grown out of it and passed through the stage with fond memories but i know alot of mates who havn't ..

This thread has made me think of them a little bit more and also change my stance on the subject . One thing i have noticed is those who are fed up of how their lives are to start with tend to come off worse . If ure happy go lucky and all things bad bounce off you ,you tend to do o.k.

[influx]

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^^^ my thoughts exactly. while i don't condone the use of illegal drugs, if you are the type of person that can control yourself well, and can get your hands on some good clean stuff, then i would say by all means try it. i know that it has changed my life and couldn't even imagine who i would be had i never have had some of the experiences i've had. i'd prolly be a little fuckin' peckerhead, cheesedick motherfucker. but of course, there is a line, when too much is too much, and it's all too easy to let things get out of control. imo, i think that the benefits outweigh the negatives... IF you're the right type of person.

[cowardly dj]

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how anyone can think drugs make your life better in any way is irresponsible and has not tasted life in its real beauty

drugs are manufactured therefore anything you feel while under the influence is manufactured as well

[bart_smastard]

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^^ cdj .. i can understand ure stance on drugs , you are a clean living guy who values family and the bible . ^^

But man made , proccessed and refined over the years is how u describe drugs .

That's how i describe religion

Just kidding ..This ain't that kind of discussion

Some ppl seem to be heading for self destruction and misery .These are the people that should stay away from alcohol , gambling and drugs. I put those 3 in the same category for they are equal on the damage they do to lives and also the harmless affects they have on others . More people are heading towards an early grave due to junkfood than because of what's taken on the dancefloors. Same can be said of tobbaco . I know I'm twisting things a bit to suit my argument . But alcohol tobbaco and unhealthy eating are what's doing me damage at the moment . These are the things in my life i'm trying hardest to give up ( alcohol I am willing to suffer till my dieing day ) . E's and coke I am growing out of and with exceptions of a few nights a year i can get by perfectly well without . But the things that society sees as acceptable are slowly killing me

[cowardly dj]

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my view on drugs does not come from the Bible BTW

it is just a fact that drugs and for that matter 90% of the food we eat today is manufactured and that which is foregn to the body can not do the body good hence the decline in overall health of the entire world from the food.

Factor in the harsh effects and alterations of drugs to the body, it is self evident that they are not good in their nature

[bart_smastard]

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^^ but if we lived our lives only doing what was good for us . life would be deviod of fun ^^

[ForYosoul]

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You can't forget the memory and the experience you have with the E so you understand and listen to music with the reminiscense of that experience.

[cowardly dj]

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^^ but if we lived our lives only doing what was good for us . life would be deviod of fun ^^

depends on what one considers fun i guess

[day_for_night]

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no one said you had to use drugs to have fun, you can however use them to enhance an already great experience. anyone who uses drugs to avoid reality or cheer themselves up is heading down the road to dependance.

[elhadley]

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ex doesnt really enchance your hearing at all....but is one hell of a drug...the best drug for enjoy of all sense....2ci....its actually legal in the states (at the moment). it is a new expieremental drug.....the high was some what like ex and shroom it was quite amazing....but keep in mind it is new so not much is known by it....

[weswood]

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it is just a fact that drugs and for that matter 90% of the food we eat today is manufactured and that which is foregn to the body can not do the body good hence the decline in overall health of the entire world from the food.

Factor in the harsh effects and alterations of drugs to the body, it is self evident that they are not good in their nature

"There are times, however -- and this is one of them -- where even being right feels wrong. What do you say, for instance, about a generation that has been taught that rain is poison and sex is death? If making love might be fatal and if a cool spring rain on any summer afternoon can turn a crystal blue lake into a puddle of black poison scum right in front of your eyes, there is not much left except TV and relentless masturbation." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

Pot isn't manufactured and any injested substance is foreign to our bodies BTW. Bacon is natural and delicious (and a foreign substance to our bodies) but it ain't doing any wonders for our health either.

[neoee]

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You forgot shrooms ^^^^

But since CDJ brought it up, I've got something. I had an aunt die recently, while in her last days they gave her morophine to ease the pain. Anyways I got to thinking. The religious folks always say how bad drugs are. [Some] people turn to drugs to ease the pain, an escape from the day to day. How is this different than someone in the hospital getting morophine and what are your thoughts on it?

[Kamal]

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Sorry about your aunt neoee. I for one hold no real grudge against the use of drugs. You choose to fuck yourself, its your choice. You are an addict as long as you wish to be one and no one would really to be able to change your mind otherwise if you wish to continue down the rabbit hole your mind is digging for you.

Drugs that result in the triggering of "maniac" type behaviour should be banned simply for the risk the drug abuser poses to society. Of all you know, since the brain can get "attuned" to several stages of pain / pleasure, what is to say that being sober isn't a form of being high on its own ?