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Re: Attn Hos: Is Israel flaunting International Law?
Occupation is provocation.
Originally posted by Yao
Occupation is provocation.
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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
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Re: Attn Hos: Is Israel flaunting International Law?
Yes, but now there is withdrawal. Does it still count then? I have trouble with the one-sided ending of the cease-fire, especially in these circumstances.
btw: didn't those territories get occupied after Israel was attacked, in the 6 day war? Not sure about this but that's true, then from which side did the provocation come?Blowkick visual & graphic design - No Civilization. Now With Broadband.
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Re: Attn Hos: Is Israel flaunting International Law?
depends which way you are looking fromOriginally posted by dig72
Occupation is also securityblack is the new black www.mercuryserver.comComment
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Re: Attn Hos: Is Israel flaunting International Law?
Originally posted by Yao
A withdrawl is good but there are a many hardship still placed on Palestinians as a whole. (eg; freedom of movement ect, ect)
We could go forever about which side started it and the fact will remain and that is, Palestinians are under occupation and will always be seen as the victims and rightly so imo.“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
― Marcus Tullius CiceroComment
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Re: Attn Hos: Is Israel flaunting International Law?
Originally posted by Hos
Yes it is, although unjust for those occupied.“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
― Marcus Tullius CiceroComment
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Re: Attn Hos: Is Israel flaunting International Law?
davetlv, sorry to say, but you are nationalistic, cause you don?t accept critics on israel!! The smiley with the israelic flag speaks for you, and : Maybe there?s and was no palestina, but there should be, cause as i said in another topic, israel has the right to exist, but palestine also. You are not cool, man, ok live, but also LET LIVE!! I could argue with you for hours cause there are a lot of things to say, but first OPEN your MIND and change your ATTITUDE!!Comment
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Whats wrong with being nationalistic?Originally posted by Scarface
If you had read some of my previous posts on the subject (simple search will do it) you will see that I am often a huge critic on my country. Also you would have seen that I have always supported a two state solution - Israel and Palestine. Does that make me not cool?
Dude IMHO its not cool coming on here sprouting crap and attacking people before you even know their postion (again a site search would have cleared that up for you.)
I want to leave you with a quote by Israel's Ambassador to the UN Dan Gillerman, taken from his speech yesterday at the UN in commemoration of the first International Day of Rememberance of the Holocaust.
And Shabbat shalom to you all!"We sound an alarm, a call to arms and a wake-up call to the world, a world in which a member state of this organization calls for wiping Israel off the map, a world in which an extreme and evil regime denies the Holocaust while preparing the next one."
"On this day I want to express to you in this hall and around the world my deep regret, I regret terribly that the State of Israel did not exist in 1938 or 1943, because if it did, this horrible event would never have happened."
"And today, from this podium, in this hall, on this solemn day, I warn to you that as long as there is an Israel no Jew will again be made to wear a yellow star or will be tatooed with a number, "
"And I warn to you there will forever be an Israel so this horror will never be witnessed again."
"We remember the sacrifice of the victims, we salute the courage of the survivors, many of whom are in this hall, as their numbers dwindle while the Holocaust turns from a memory to becoming history," Gillerman said.
"May God give his people strength, may God bless his people with peace. Shabbat shalom."Comment
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I know a few around here that are waaaaaaaaaaaaay more nationalistic than David, not to mention blind to the faults of their country and it's policies.Blowkick visual & graphic design - No Civilization. Now With Broadband.
There are but three true sports -- bullfighting, mountain climbing, and motor-racing. The rest are merely games. -HemingwayComment
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dave: Being nationalistic is not modern in my opinion, cause this is a global world and nationalism isn´t up to date. i judge people only of their opinions and thoughts and not about their religion or country. and nationalism made the holocaust happen, you know that better than me. i´m new here so i couldn´t read everything you wrote. but you admitted that you are nationalistic, so i wasn´t really wrong.Comment
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Re: Attn Hos: Is Israel flaunting International Law?
Maybe, but by saying that Nationalism started the holocaust you're making a grave mistake dude. That had nothing to do with borders, that simple an extreme of xenophobia IMO, institutionalised by someone who sneaked his way into a position where he could do that.Blowkick visual & graphic design - No Civilization. Now With Broadband.
There are but three true sports -- bullfighting, mountain climbing, and motor-racing. The rest are merely games. -HemingwayComment
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Re: Attn Hos: Is Israel flaunting International Law?
Originally posted by Yao
I knew that this would come. I?m not so stupid to think that it was the ONLY thing that made the holocaust happen. But nationalism was also a factor which made this happen. WITHOUT nationalism there wouldn?t have been the platform for Hitler to gain power, so he used it for his aims(not only but also).Comment
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Re: Attn Hos: Is Israel flaunting International Law?
It was only an instrument in his arsenal, but he didn't so much create a nationalistic feeling by itself as create a common fear for the 'outsider'. Wether that outsider was real or not, he made it real enough for the people. IMO it was a combination of both, and with only either of the two he would've never gotten as far as he did.Blowkick visual & graphic design - No Civilization. Now With Broadband.
There are but three true sports -- bullfighting, mountain climbing, and motor-racing. The rest are merely games. -HemingwayComment
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Re: Attn Hos: Is Israel flaunting International Law?
Originally posted by Scarface
That?s also what i think, so nationalism is NO GOOD at all!!! It?s not necessary to get in details.Comment
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Not only did you not get Yao's point, but also posted a lot of senseless drivel of your own. Well done!Originally posted by Scarface
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Isn't it time to wonder why hardly any important Israelien people were killed in the skirmishes between Palestinians and Israelians. Isreal killed a bunch of important leaders of various organisations....
I wonder why the Palestinians never or hardly ever did that. I mean its not so hard to be succesfull. It might be two times harder than in the US to make it successfull but certainly not impossible. Especially if you look at how often they do manage to blow up things everywhere around the country. I wonder why they choose for the targets they choose. Its pretty unlogical to let your own leaders to be slaughtered and hit back with killing a bunch of John Doe's in some Isrealien city.
Could it be that some Palestinian people benefit alot from the ongoing conflict which never really becomes a true war???Be as intelligent as you are not!Comment
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