Progressive going in a new direction?

[3d_1200]

Re: Progressive going in a new direction?

i agree that ableton is a very good tool, however like some people talk about being "inspired" from the music, well seeing ANY dj live w/ ableton just doesn't inspire me. however for a compiliation or sometihng to that effect, yes, your right, jamez zebiela's mix to habershams kissmix are prime examples of its potential.

i also think andres post leads to something else, it's probobly more of the producers we should be analyzing here instead of the dj's. i think it's safe to say that it seems as if the newer 'electro' sound is where the majority of the producers are concentrating on for the time being. thats probobly more of the reason why the music changed because a lot of influential producers came along doing new things with new sounds and translated well to a broad audience, people like fancuilli, and tiefschwarz, etc.

[weswood]

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i actually think it's quite an exciting time for "progressive". a lot more styles are being incorporated,

I cringe every time I hear this. These "different styles" are variations on house being combined with other variations on house. And the variations don't sound remarkably different from each other in the first place.

We're at that point where nothing new is coming out of progressive. Let me rephrase... nothing new with dancefloor appeal is coming out of progressive It's all a rehash of old ideas and sounds with just enough modern twist to make it appealing.

[Gloomy]

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Analysing or not ... it's just a bit frustrating to hear again and again the same sh*t you don't like ...while it used to be different, when every set was another trip. That's what I miss the most: the journey that some sets could take you on. Maybe you can call me a dreamer or a wooshie , but that's what I still like the most about music: the feeling that some music produces. But with the these-day rather flat sounding electro stuff, I can't really talk about 'feelings' anymore.

[chuckc]

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Personally I think the majority of Big Name djs have really gone in the wrong direction with there music. I mean every big time DJ (howells,diggers,pappa,sasha,sander, ect ect ect) play sounds today that do not sound nearly as good as they did a few years back.....its rare that i hear a bigger name dj set that i like from beginning to end.

I find myself getting more satisfaction listening to newer and upcoming unknown djs...like ollis, mirel jarca, steve james, derek howell, gerrard ect. rather than the big time guys... You really have to look harder to find the music you like anymore...

[Kinetic]

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Guys, do me a favour, go to BeatPort.com and listen to Sertac Kaya´s mix of Snake Sedrick´s "Only One Way", and then Izak and Phunindustries "Retake" (Izak´s a member here).

Come back and tell me if prog is dead.

I think a lot of people are just looking in all the wrong places. I agree on one thing...the relationship between quality and quantity has probably changed, but there´s still a lot of amazing stuff out there.

Having said that, it took me sometime but I definitely like the tech-house, electro-house stuff...all I want is quality electronic music, limiting myself is pointless and stupid.

So, in the same breath, I´d probably advise anyone to check out anything by Locodice, Trentemoller, Zoo Brasil, etc., or even Apparat.

[DragonFire]

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Ok well i was struck as well when i went for some time away from the music and came back to find ppl praising fanciulli and find about new ppl like m.a.n.d.y and tiga ...Didnt appreciate that music and thought it was trash ..i was starting to lose trust in diggerz thinkin he's crap now where is my dark diggerz ?? He is still there ... really after listening to some trentemoller sets along with the diggerz sets i strated too understand this music .. It's not bland like most ppl think on the contrary what Fanciulli plays is not what diggerz plays ..Digweed is still dark but in another way , in a sounding way rather than relying on precussions and beats only and loops to deliver darkness , darkness is delivered using different tools now .. u might not like it and ur free in that but u can't say digweed has turned electro !!!! the biggest proof is digweeds set at dubai in 2005 ... i belive any one of us , if he plays the same kinda music for 3 years he would need to experiment new sounds , digweed maintained the darkness which is what i think digweed is about and why everyone here is his fan ...

[weswood]

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Guys, do me a favour, go to BeatPort.com and listen to Sertac Kaya?s mix of Snake Sedrick?s "Only One Way", and then Izak and Phunindustries "Retake" (Izak?s a member here).

Come back and tell me if prog is dead.

Yep, it's still dead.

The Sertac Kaya mix sounds like a rip off of Subsky. The Izak track is decent, but not my cup of tea. But they do both sound like they came straight out of 2003 if you enjoyed that period in prog.

[dante_k]

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I can relate to all of the opinions made here. I was away from the music for almost 4 years with my recent return I have found what was the Prog House I was used to in years past has most definatly gone through what one would call a PROGRESSION which is why it is called such music. As for the reason we are all such fans of the grates like Digweed its not for the style of the tracks they play today or tomorow it is for the skill in wich they present the music to us. Its the mood thats represented. Yeh, I've been frustrated recently surching for music that I want to represent. Sometimes I like playing more to the Break side of the spectrum and then sometimes to the Electrotek. Whatever the brand, how you dish it out is what really makes it PROGRESSIVE HOUSE!

[sakio pod]

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yeah i love Sasha

i have to say that of all the times i've seen Sasha, the best set i ever heard was at Fabric last July, what he did with Ableton was simply amazing, Sasha's only low point was circa 2000-2002 imo, since hes been using Ableton he's just been on fire, but horses for courses and all that...

i'm in the same boat seen him 5 times last year....nyc, orlando, la, and vegas and everytime he impressed me more and more with the hole ableton set up.....we all know sasha is on and off with mixing vinyl and cd

i think it fits him perfectly to me it doesen't matter what the dj uses.....as long as there putting out great music....i could care less

[lmmadic]

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Analysing or not ... it's just a bit frustrating to hear again and again the same sh*t you don't like ...while it used to be different, when every set was another trip. That's what I miss the most: the journey that some sets could take you on. Maybe you can call me a dreamer or a wooshie , but that's what I still like the most about music: the feeling that some music produces. But with the these-day rather flat sounding electro stuff, I can't really talk about 'feelings' anymore.

hey gloomy what's up? long time no seen.
I've been away for a while too.
And i totally know what you're saying. I hear songs mixed together, and less a journey than the old sound did.
But i find the music picking up a bit tho recently. if you look past the old names and search a little.

[chuckc]

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To me Martin Garcia has really taken off with his dj sets....I have a few of his metro sets from NOvember and one from December and they are wonderful....this guy is full of talent and he never seems to play those annoying electoey type sounds.

[jarble187]

Re: Progressive going in a new direction?

To me Martin Garcia has really taken off with his dj sets....I have a few of his metro sets from NOvember and one from December and they are wonderful....this guy is full of talent and he never seems to play those annoying electoey type sounds.

MG- Deep, dark, melodic, and twisted....this guy knows whats up!

[THE_LIGHT]

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Personally I think the majority of Big Name djs have really gone in the wrong direction with there music. I mean every big time DJ (howells,diggers,pappa,sasha,sander, ect ect ect) play sounds today that do not sound nearly as good as they did a few years back.....its rare that i hear a bigger name dj set that i like from beginning to end.

I find myself getting more satisfaction listening to newer and upcoming unknown djs...like ollis, mirel jarca, steve james, derek howell, gerrard ect. rather than the big time guys... You really have to look harder to find the music you like anymore...

On fuckin point bro.. I enjoy the new and up coming djs more than i do the big jocks anymore. Look at steve lawler lights 3.. few years back this guy was playing amazing tribal.. i mean thats what we all know him for right.. lastest cd, no fuckin tribal..
IMO: instead of sittting around and bitching about it.. its time to do something about it and make it change.


cheers
hafid

[hulkhuss]

Re: Progressive going in a new direction?

i agree with chuck c
sept he left off desyn and luke

[rewing3]

Re: Progressive going in a new direction?

desyn and luke

Could not agree more. Both djs had big yrs last yr. What about Jonathan Lisle, his orginal series 002 was one of my favorite cds from last yr.