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ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.
Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.
Originally posted by geoffgulley
Apparently your missing all the game commercials for XBox and Playstation....
Yeah, I've seen that one Xbox commerical where that kid blew himself up...a dozen times
Yao...I'm done dude. I wholeheartedly agree that the same kind of influnce occurs in the West. I agreed with you 4 posts ago. Unfortunately, that is not the point that I'm trying to get across, so forget it.
Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.
how bout we just bomb the entire middle east to the ground, start drilling sideways like burns did in the simpsons, and then all our problems will go away.
seriously, once we rid the world of the middle east and kim jong, everyone will get along and we can start working on cleaning the fucking planet up.
your life is an occasion, rise to it.
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Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.
Originally posted by thesightless
how bout we just bomb the entire middle east to the ground, start drilling sideways like burns did in the simpsons, and then all our problems will go away.
seriously, once we rid the world of the middle east and kim jong, everyone will get along and we can start working on cleaning the fucking planet up.
It's funny you say that because I've heard the same thing said about the States many times before. (minus the drilling sideways thing and Kim Jing, lol)
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
― Marcus Tullius Cicero
Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.
Get rid of the U.S.A. Ha! We run the world and most of our citizens couldn't name 3 other countries besides their own. Why? Because Americans don't care. You all are second class citizens on Earth compared to us Americans. You're just upset because you don't live here.
Really though, I'm secretly enjoying the world react to this Iran threat. Of course, I wish there was no threat, but I think the rest of the world is now being put in a position where they're going to have to make a hard decision soon about war or not.
Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake - Napoleon Bonaparte
Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.
You're right about that Dave, though if looking back a little bit, don't you think we wouldn't have been in this position if it weren't for the constant prodding of the US in the Middle East? The difference between the US and Europe in their relations with the Middle East is that in the latter one a number of countries has always had warm relations with Middle Eastern countries. That's why so far the bulk of the agitation in the M-E has been directed against the US, not Europe.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to do here: not boast about Europe, but rather pointing out a difference in attitude...Europe has a past of influencing other places as well, they just did it a bit better (= more subtle, giving them the idea they were in control), while the word 'subtlety' is yet to be written down in the US's political lexicon when it comes to that. The US is young, and strong. Like a young bull walking into a penn that says: "now we're gonna do things my way".
The problem is that this approach won't last: despite a number of countries helping in invading Iraq and ousting Saddam, I'm pretty confident that for another such action there will be far less support. Countries are shifting allegiance towards the East, to Russia and China right now.
There's a slight chance I get to talk to your ambassador in the Netherlands this evening, although those of Ghana and Nigeria have priority. It would be fun though to have this discussion with him and see what he says...
Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.
No, I don't think what we did in Iraq has any bearing on Iran trying to make nuclear weapons. If anything, being in Iraq and close to Iran if war is necessary will help us. Iran has supported terrorism against Israel for many years.
And the European "subtle" approach didn't help France and England out with terror attacks recently.
Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake - Napoleon Bonaparte
Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.
[quote=superdave]If anything, being in Iraq and close to Iran if war is necessary will help us. Iran has supported terrorism against Israel for many years. quote]
How is being in Iraq helping the US?
The US has supported terrorism against the Palestinians.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
― Marcus Tullius Cicero
Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.
Originally posted by superdave
No, I don't think what we did in Iraq has any bearing on Iran trying to make nuclear weapons. If anything, being in Iraq and close to Iran if war is necessary will help us. Iran has supported terrorism against Israel for many years.
And the European "subtle" approach didn't help France and England out with terror attacks recently.
Umm, which country went into Iraq with the US? Let's see... oh yes, the UK. How is that "subtle"?
And which terror attacks in France are you referring to? Or did you mean Spain? All the same us Europeans eh? Oh yeah, Spain supported the war in Iraq too...
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