ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

[Yao]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

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Yeah, guess he meant Spain. As for the sublety 'not working': I think we're still much more in the green than the US. Apart from that, the extremist rhetorics are still mainly aimed at the US, not the European countries. It's the ones that have let their asses be dragged into this bullshit by the US that encountered some trouble, the others not. Spain has withdrawn, and will most prolly not get any bombings to endure anymore, the UK is the US's lapdog: they fucking deserve it. As well as my country for being the cowardice asslickers they are, sending troops into Iraw after the real war was over. (yea, don't think i'm a pussy that only bashes the US on this one, my country receives the punches just as hard from my mouth).

btw: I was totally not referring to Iraq when I mentioned the US meddling in Middle Eastern affairs, not at all. Iraq comes after that, and is now simple another name on that list. Afghanistan and Iran were your main feats over there. In a negative way.

[mixu]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

Spain has withdrawn, and will most prolly not get any bombings to endure anymore, the UK is the US's lapdog: they fucking deserve it.

Thanks

[Yao]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

lol, don't take it personal bro. I praised Spain for having the guts to listen to it's population, instead of following the big players like a puppy. The people wanted out, so they went out. If my own government would have half the balls that Zapatero had, they'd do the same since most of the Dutch people think alike.

Regardless of my personal opinion that they should sit out the ride now, I wouldn't hold it against them if my govt would, just for once, listen to the people they pretend to represent.

[superdave]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

Let's get this straight Yao - Spain has balls for retreating and the UK deserves to be bombed? Is this the European logic that us Americans are missing out on?

[Yao]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

No, this my logic Dave.

As for what I said: I think you damn well know that I never meant to say that people in any country actually deserved to bombed Dave, that literal interpretation is a pretty weak game to play, although in this I must admit that that remark was pretty harsh to make. Probably is a result of my annoyance with the fact that a number countries in Europe do not seem to be able to have their own opinion. That includes mine, and in fact I fucking hate the cowardice attitude my govt has displayed. We got one murder here and they call it a terrorist attack, wtf....pantsies.

I think it's just hypocritical to invade a country there and expect them to sit back and let it happen to them. Every country that got involved knew what is was in for, including yours.

[davetlv]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

Spain has withdrawn, and will most prolly not get any bombings to endure anymore, the UK is the US's lapdog: they fucking deserve it.

Yao, first off you must know how dear you are to me that said. . . .what the fuck have you been smoking.

Ok there are a couple of ways you can look at this - first off you could say that the USA and UK are the only countries with the balls to actually do what the whole of the fucking international community should have done. Thats why we have the UN. And if the UN has any balls than Chapter 7 resolutions need to be more than an empty threat. And i don't give a fuck who is on the receiving end.

We can argue Iraq till we are blue in the face - but bottom line, chapter 7 resolutions passed, action threathened and at the end of the day on the US, UK and a few other brave countries who were not prepred to be blackmailed by 56 + other countries did their thing,

But lets move over to Iran. Iran has two simple solutions here:-

1. Either allow inspections of existing plants and not develop Nuclear anything or

2. They can withdraw from the NPT in which case NO country or INTERNATIONAL orgainisation can take action against them.

Its that simple. Either abide by the NPT or withdraw from it. Iran can't have it both ways. Pakistan realised this a number of years ago, withdrew from the NPT, and are more than happy developing their bombs!!!!!

Its a crazy system, but its what we have. Iran has a get out clause, like Pakistan did. Use it or follow the rules.

Simple. I'm sure even Hos would agree with me on this one!

[Yao]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

lol, i agree with your post, and...I think it nuanced that quoted statement before Dave

It doesn't matter anyway, readin my post back from the last few days i've been off a bit, which isn't suprising. Got some issues on my head, and I shouldn't be posting in this state or take my time to do it. I'm not taking anything back, but I could've gone about phrasing things a bit differently and prolly a bit more solid.
Keeping myself busy with too many issues at the same time, lol

[davetlv]

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Yao, you obviously need a holiday. I can highly recommend Israel in March (If the Israeli dance boards are anything to go by Diggers will be here in Eilat. . . .)

Come see the mid-east first hand . . . . . the timing would be great 'cos its close to the elections here, and if other boards can be believed, its when Israel will talk USA into invading Iran!!!!

Now where'd i put my gas mask

[Hos]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

But lets move over to Iran. Iran has two simple solutions here:-

1. Either allow inspections of existing plants and not develop Nuclear anything or

2. They can withdraw from the NPT in which case NO country or INTERNATIONAL orgainisation can take action against them.

Its that simple. Either abide by the NPT or withdraw from it. Iran can't have it both ways. Pakistan realised this a number of years ago, withdrew from the NPT, and are more than happy developing their bombs!!!!!

Its a crazy system, but its what we have. Iran has a get out clause, like Pakistan did. Use it or follow the rules.

Simple. I'm sure even Hos would agree with me on this one!

The NPT was created to halt the development and aquirement of nuclear weapons. It was also created to promote the peaceful use of nuclear technology. By withdrawing from the NPT the global community will see it as an admission, by Iran, to developing nuclear weapons.

There is international mistrust of Iran, because of comments their government make, but none of these comments have been backed up action. Understandably, the mistrust remains, but you can't deny a nation from exercise their free right.

So it isn't that simple.

[Hos]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

Yao, you obviously need a holiday. I can highly recommend Israel in March (If the Israeli dance boards are anything to go by Diggers will be here in Eilat. . . .)

Come see the mid-east first hand . . . . . the timing would be great 'cos its close to the elections here, and if other boards can be believed, its when Israel will talk USA into invading Iran!!!!

Now where'd i put my gas mask

[davetlv]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

The NPT was created to halt the development and aquirement of nuclear weapons. It was also created to promote the peaceful use of nuclear technology. By withdrawing from the NPT the global community will see it as an admission, by Iran, to developing nuclear weapons.

There is international mistrust of Iran, because of comments their government make, but none of these comments have been backed up action. Understandably, the mistrust remains, but you can't deny a nation from exercise their free right.

So it isn't that simple.

What should have happened when the NPT was set up is that it should have been compulsory. But it isn't. Therefore countries do not have to sign it. They can withdraw from it, like Pakistan did!

Now as for Irans 'world' image, IMHO, a little silence goes a long way! The recent comments have been timed to wind up the USA and Israel, and they are working. But i agree with you that they have YET to be backed up by any action. That said, I'm sure the Iranian people - or at least I hope - would rather world attention be removed from them and put else where, but they are stuck with a lunatic President who seems to get his gollies by goading the west at the most inappropriate times!

And don't knock clubbing in Eilat until you've tried it - come over, it will be a blast!

[Hos]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

i wasn't knocking the clubbing. i was knocking the fact that you advocated invasion and gassing of your fellow humans.

yes i think it's very tough for the Iranian people. they would rather not be in the spotlight, but they are also very proud people and the president's only redeeming feature in their eyes, is his wish for "the children of Iran to pursue their scentific ambitions".

[evangelion]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

the timing would be great 'cos its close to the elections here, and if other boards can be believed, its when Israel will talk USA into invading Iran!!!!

That's what I'm afraid of

[Yao]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

Dave was just joking with the gask mask bro...it might as well have been me making that remark

I don't really think that Israel and the US will be stupid enough to go to war with Iran...although...you never know these days huh

[davetlv]

Re: ok, maybe we need to invade iran. not political, just fucked up.

i wasn't knocking the clubbing. i was knocking the fact that you advocated invasion and gassing of your fellow humans.

Thats the last time i try to make a joke around here!!!!

Don't worry Hos, I would never advocate the invasion of Iran . . . . .