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Re: COLTS Fan TURNCOAT!!! Rants and Raves
i think brady is overrated too, just for the record
but he is better than the above mentioned qbs
i think brady is overrated too, just for the record
but he is better than the above mentioned qbs
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Re: COLTS Fan TURNCOAT!!! Rants and Raves
you cannot even trash brady.he isnt overrated at all. while there are QB's who might have more physical talent in one way or another, vick runs better, manning throws better, he is the complete QB, has talent, brains and guts, most of all , he is a winner when he needs to be. go ahead and be an idiot by saying they didnt win this year, but he is 1 of 82 ppl on the team. they lost half thier staff in the last 2 years, and many injuries, but he still won 3 bowls, and this year won the passing title. i'd put my money on him every day. he is the best QB since farve in the mid to late 90's. boxing and tennis are the only sports where you do it by yourself. brady does most of it by himself.your life is an occasion, rise to it.
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Re: COLTS Fan TURNCOAT!!! Rants and Raves
I'm not saying he isn't an important part of the offense, I'm just saying that he shouldn't be included amongst the great quarterbacks in the league. In direct answer to your question, though, I am absolutely saying that there is nothing talismanic about having Brady in your lineup. Could you stick quarterbacks in that affirmatively suck like the guys you've mentioned and still had success? Maybe -- let's not forget that Trent Fucking Dilfer wears a Superbowl ring -- but probably not. More likely, though, you could stick any of a number of solid quarterbacks into Belichick's system and probably still do OK.Originally posted by geoffgulley
Brady is simply not, nor has he ever been, a "take the team on his shoulders and direct the team to victory" kind of QB like Elway, Montana, and Farve when they were in their prime. Let me change your question and throw it back your way. Put Brady on a typically underwhelming team like Cleveland, Detroit, or Arizona -- does he have what it takes to take teams like that on his back and succeed? I honestly don't think so. My opinion.Comment
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Re: COLTS Fan TURNCOAT!!! Rants and Raves
toasty, he is the best QB in the league, not only with them, but above them. just look at manning. all those records and he shit his pants for the fourth year in a row.your life is an occasion, rise to it.
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Re: COLTS Fan TURNCOAT!!! Rants and Raves
Whether Brady or Manning is the better QB right now is a debatable point. Whether Brady is on the same page as the all-time greats in this league is not, in my opinion. I don't care what the stats say or how many rings he's got. I've never understood the hard-on people have with the guy. I think about Tom Brady and I just yawn.Originally posted by thesightless
I'm not saying the guy sucks (although I do stand by my observation that he's a clown -- different critique), I'm just saying he isn't all that.Comment
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Re: COLTS Fan TURNCOAT!!! Rants and Raves
tom brady has won 3 superbowls and he is only 28. not sure why u think he is not all that ...he is a very low key guy. i happen to think he represents himself very well. and i would hate to tell you u dont win 3 superbowls without loads of talent. the qb pretty much guides/leads the team.
Tom Brady = Mr. Clutch.
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The following comes from a pats fan, you have been warned.
Personally, i think the last 1:30 of Superbowl 36 is all the evidence you need to show that Brady is exactly that kind of QB - and the fact it was done in his 1st year as a starter makes it even more impressive. Then take a look at the other two winning championship season: When SB 38 turned into an absolute shootout in the 2nd half, Brady made most the calls himself down the stretch, including the last drive that started on their own 40 (thank you John Carney). In 2004, when he finally had a decent running game to compliment his arm, he was given even more freedom to run the offense as he saw fit.Originally posted by toasty
Add to that the fact that in every evaluation of Brady you can find - not by the so called experts, but the coaches, the players, the teammates - you hear the same thing: It's his ability to step up when the game matters most, his coolness under pressure and his skill in understanding what is on the field in front of him. If those are the marks of a great QB, than I don't know what is.
If nothing else, what happened this season should only reinforce Brady's right to be considered one of the best in the business. Start with the loss of Weis, the guy all the naysayers credited with Brady's success. He leaves and Brady has the best (statistical) year of his career.
Then look at how injuries took down one starter after the other. He lost nearly his entire offense line, his stud RB, his go-to 3rd down back, his #2 WR and pretty much all the key members of the Defense and the Pats still get the AFC East and a playoff win. "Take the team on his shoulders and direct the team to victory" is exactly what he did this year. Coaches may draw up the plays but they certainly don't make the plays.Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not;
a sense of humor to console him for what he is.Comment
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Re: COLTS Fan TURNCOAT!!! Rants and Raves
except they went out on the wild card round. so he wins superbowls with his good players, and goes out on wild card on the season with injuries. so how can one say that he carries the team, when it seems the other way around? he is good, probably the best in the league, but not legendary imo.Comment
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Exactly!!!Originally posted by BSully828
man toasty ur kind of make no sense. regardless of weather u like brady or not....he is a helluva leader and his guided his team to 3 superbowls....U are the only one I have ever heard that doesnt think this way.Comment
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I would think that someone from Tampa would recognize that having a successful football team doesn't necessarily require a stud quarterback at the helm. Look, I'm actually a Bucs fan and watch them religiously, and I'm sure you would agree with me that Tampa Bay didn't win Superbowl 37 because of the stellar play of Brad Johnson.Originally posted by chuckc
Brady is obviously a good player, but I just don't see him alongside the all-time greats. I just don't. No one is going to change my mind on this. He's a good player, maybe even a great player, but the Pats have had the success they have had first and foremost because Bill Belichick has developed a great system that takes full advantage of all of his players strengths and downplays their weakenesses on both sides of the ball.Comment
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BTW, you're all free to think I'm an idiot. I just don't care. Sticks and stones, blah, blah, blah...
Tom Brady is overrated. On this note, I bid this thread adieu...Comment
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Re: COLTS Fan TURNCOAT!!! Rants and Raves
I know what your getting at Toasty...I personally fell the same way about peyton manning....He is highly overated imo as well...Plus i just cant stand him.Comment
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Except they don't even MAKE the playoffs this year without him.... I remember quite well people saying John Elway was the cats arse until he won his first superbowl. No one thinks Dan Marino or Jim Kelly were suck ass quarterbacks even though they never won a superbowl. We're talking out both sides of our mouths here. We say "how meaningless stats are" and "superbowl rings be damned". Yet the guy has three superbowl rings, two superbowl MVP's, a ten and one record in the playoffs and has a better career passing rating than either Elway or Marino and is five points behind Montana.... I'm not a Tom Brady kiss ass, I'm a frickin Bengals fan for God's sake but what else do you want the guy to do?Originally posted by peloquin"only dead fish swim with the stream..." Malcolm Muggeridge
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On a side note I guess we should all think Terry Bradshaw was not "legendary" as well because of all the "talent" and "coaching" he had....."only dead fish swim with the stream..." Malcolm Muggeridge
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Re: COLTS Fan TURNCOAT!!! Rants and Raves
does someone want to tell me that part of why peyton manning has put up such good numbers is because he's had people like marvin harrison (incredible), edgerton james (when the passing game isnt woking edge has always picked them up) reggie wayne, marcus pollard, dallas clark, and a pro bowl o-line and a good o-coordinator. This year peyton even had a pro bowl defense and STILL it amounted to an early playoff exit.
the pats barely have any of that, corey dillon is mediocre at best, david givens, troy brown, who cares? they dont stack up to harrison and wayne and edge.
sure, that pat's have a system, but if you watch the throws brady makes, he stands in the pocket and is willing to take the hit. when manning starts getting hit, hes completely ineffective. see: steelers vs colts, 2005 afc playoffs.Comment
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