Anyone here still for the war?

[tsesan]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

My view is that the war has been and will be a big mistake. Post 911, the majority of the world stood by the US. But Iraq fucked it all up. We got rid of one enemy only to create thousands more and segregated the US from the rest of the world. I think a better choice would have been to let the UN take care of things. That is why the UN was created.

[Jenks]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

Hey!

[thesightless]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

Hey! Sounds like thesightless now admits the war wasn't perfect but is still whining about everyone who said it was a dumb, stupid and crazy idea from the very beginning.

As usual, lots of bark but no bite.

one sec here.

first, i have no problem with islam or any relgion. they are inherently a great thing. my beef is why are we even bothering any more>? we tried to help them, thier own people are fighting eac h other in an effort to make us look bad. the whole region has this idea that islamic law is held above all else. ok, no problem here, it can be held above all else, but on your soil, not anyone else's. they are seriously stuck int he stoneage when a guy who leaves teh country, converts, and comes back for a legal hearing over child custody, then his family turns him in and 2 countries want him dead.... yeah, normal. nothing like a woman getting raped and impregnated, then being sentenced to death for having a kid out of wedlock...

but this dumb fucking war is like trying to fight an invasion of bugs without knowing where the nest is. and the people we are trying to help are refusing to help themselves. i have yet to hear about any iraqi citizen turning in an insurgent.

back to the quote.
the war did have good ideas behind it in the beginning, my beef is how our malfunctioning government, thorugh infighting, bullshit spin, and partisan bullshit has managed to fuck up part of it outside of the fact that we still wear uniforms. its the execution of the war and its planning that bite me in the wrong way. personally, i would just pull out and go on TV and say ""you are on your own now"" to the entire region including you know who.(hint::not muslim))


everyday we have to listen to hillary clinton telling us how bad we are doing, and then listen to whatever monkey the republican side throws out there tell us its going well.

you know what ""they are both right and wrong"" there are wondeful things happening via humanitarian works and terrible things happening because we cannot seem to secure even one square mile of the land. shit we build a road to a hospital, the insurgents blow it up, and then opponents of the US say its our fault a person died when the bomb went off to blow up the road,

at this point. just leave. leave em be they dont want our help. if anything it will lat the US governemtn work on what they should be """the united states of america"""

not the rogue nation run by a cleric or general who seized power through fighting. whine all you want, this country, for better or worse, elected bush, twice. he didnt rise up and seize power. and i dont even like the guy. but there are people i hate a whole lot more.

[thesightless]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

My view is that the war has been and will be a big mistake. Post 911, the majority of the world stood by the US. But Iraq fucked it all up. We got rid of one enemy only to create thousands more and segregated the US from the rest of the world. I think a better choice would have been to let the UN take care of things. That is why the UN was created.

YUP

if we stopped with the taleban, there would be a different view on our country, our government would be working together like they were when captain commando got elected the first time around, and frankly the goddamn whino's would have shut the fuck up years ago.

[thesightless]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

simply put... i hate everyone.

[thesightless]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

especially used douches who say things like ""lotta bark, no bite"" because i realize that even though we didnt find WMD's or binladen doesnt mean they dont exist.

[thesightless]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

Not disputing the fact that Saddam had WMDs or tortured people - just questioning whether invading the country, using WMDs and torturing people was the correct response.

NO. thats the answer. and what WMD did we use? not getting nasty, just wondering.

[runningman]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

everybody wanted the USA to bomb somebody after 9/11 so they did.. now this is where we are at.. what's the big deal.. I can't wait until the USA gets to unveil their New Weapons.. nuclear bombs are almost 60 years old to them.. i feel bad for the country(or countries) that try..

[Jenks]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

^:ROFLMAO:

[DJJEFFJONES]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

simply put... i hate everyone.

AMEN! Screw them all! :ROFLMAO:

[delirious]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

NO. thats the answer. and what WMD did we use? not getting nasty, just wondering.

White Phosphourous

U.S Claiming Saddam using White Phosphourous

IRAQ HAS POSSIBLY EMPLOYED PHOSPHOROUS CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST THE KURDISH POPULATION IN AREAS ALONG THE IRAQI-TURKISH-IRANIAN BORDERS. [?]
IN LATE FEBRUARY 1991, FOLLOWING THE COALITION FORCES? OVERWHELMING VICTORY OVER IRAQ, KURDISH REBELS STEPPED UP THEIR STRUGGLE AGAINST IRAQI FORCES IN NORTHERN IRAQ. DURING THE BRUTAL CRACKDOWN THAT FOLLOWED THE KURDISH UPRISING, IRAQI FORCES LOYAL TO PRESIDENT SADDAM ((HUSSEIN)) MAY HAVE POSSIBLY USED WHITE PHOSPHOROUS (WP) CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST KURDISH REBELS AND THE POPULACE IN ERBIL (GEOCOORD:3412N/04401E) (VICINITY OF IRANIAN BORDER) AND DOHUK (GEOCOORD:3652N/04301E) (VICINITY OF IRAQI BORDER) PROVINCES, IRAQ.

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/declassdocs/dia/19950901/

US invading and then using White Phosphorous

"WP [i.e., white phosphorus rounds] proved to be an effective and versatile munition. We used it for screening missions at two breeches and, later in the fight, as a potent psychological weapon against the insurgents in trench lines and spider holes when we could not get effects on them with HE. We fired 'shake and bake' missions at the insurgents, using WP to flush them out and HE to take them out."

March edition of Field Artillery Magazine

[AntonyM]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

If the US pulls out now
any chance as a taxpayer
I can get a partial refund on unused resources?

Bush has bankrupted every business he's been involved in
This business (our US government) looks headed toward the same fate
Long as their is money to be made
This war will continue
while all the politician and friends involved in war economy based businesses
are laughing all the way to the bank.

[superdave]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

I don't think we should leave now that we're in the war. However, if we could go back in time, I bet most people would re-think about going to war with Iraq. Many people including me however agree with the war in Afghanistan.

[Balanc3]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

you're delirious.

must be the water down in cape town.

[dig72]

Re: Anyone here still for the war?

What war?

The US lied about reasons for the invasion of Iraq and as a result an entire nation has been devastated. Thousands of Iraqi men, woman and children have been murdered and thousands more seriously injured and wounded.

Over 2300 US soldiers have also been killed and many more seriously
injured and wounded.


And knowing all of this, how the hell can anyone in their right mind suggest, that the invasion of Iraq was or still is a good idea?