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  • asdf_admin
    i use to be important
    • Jun 2004
    • 12798

    40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

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    The strange case of the man who took 40,000 ecstasy pills in nine years

    · Usage increased to 25 tablets a day at peak
    · Memory problems and paranoia may be lasting

    David McCandless
    Tuesday April 4, 2006
    The Guardian

    Doctors from London University have revealed details of what they believe is the largest amount of ecstasy ever consumed by a single person. Consultants from the addiction centre at St George's Medical School, London, have published a case report of a British man estimated to have taken around 40,000 pills of MDMA, the active ingredient in ecstasy, over nine years. The heaviest previous lifetime intake on record is 2,000 pills.

    Though the man, who is now 37, stopped taking the drug seven years ago, he still suffers from severe physical and mental health side-effects, including extreme memory problems, paranoia, hallucinations and depression. He also suffers from painful muscle rigidity around his neck and jaw which often prevents him from opening his mouth. The doctors believe many of these symptoms may be permanent.

    The man, known as Mr A in the report in the scientific journal Psychosomatics, started using ecstasy at 21. For the first two years his use was an average of five pills per weekend. Gradually this escalated until he was taking around three and a half pills a day. At the peak, the man was taking an estimated 25 pills every day for four years. After several severe collapses at parties, Mr A decided to stop taking ecstasy. For several months, he still felt he was under the influence of the drug, despite being bedridden.

    Hallucinations

    His condition deteriorated and he began to experience recurrent tunnel vision and other problems including hallucinations, paranoia and muscle rigidity. "He came to us after deciding that he couldn't go on any more," said Dr Christos Kouimtsidis, the consultant psychiatrist at St George's Medical School in Tooting who treated him for five months. "He was having trouble functioning in everyday life."

    The doctors discovered that the man was suffering from severe short-term memory problems of a type usually only seen in lifetime alcoholics. But evaluating the full extent of his condition was difficult as his concentration and attention was so impaired he was unable to follow the simple tasks involved in the test.

    "This was an exceptional case. His long- term memory was fine but he could not remember day to day things - the time, the day, what was in his supermarket trolley," said Dr Kouimtsidis. "More worryingly, he did not seem aware himself that he had these memory problems."

    With no mental illness in his family and no prior psychiatric history, the doctors concluded that his unique condition was direct result of his intense ecstasy use.

    "This is obviously an extreme case so we should not blow any observations out of proportion," says Dr Kouimtsidis. "But if this is what is happening to very heavy users, it might be an indication that daily use of ecstasy over a long period of time can lead to irreversible memory problems and other cognitive deficits."

    For 10 years, MDMA has been suspected of causing these kinds of effects in heavy users. It is thought to be due to its disruption of the regulation of serotonin, a brain chemical believed to play a role in mood and memory. It remains unclear whether these effects are the result of permanent neurotoxic damage or just temporary reversible alterations in the brain.

    A study today in a special MDMA issue of the British Journal of Psychopharmacology, suggests long-term side-effects may be temporary. The researchers from the University Of Louisiana could find no significant relationship between depression and recreational ecstasy use.

    In the case of Mr A, a structural MRI brain scan failed to show any obvious damage or atrophy in his brain. However, these results, says Dr Kouimtsidis, are difficult to interpret. "A scan of this type is not sensitive enough," he said.

    Such limitations in brain scanning technology, along with ethical and legal barriers to giving MDMA to human test subjects, have limited direct observation of the drug's effects in humans.

    Instead, scientists have had to use recreational drug users as subjects in their studies. Conclusions from this are often flawed because few, if any, drugs users use ecstasy in isolation.

    Cannabis user

    Mr A was also a heavy cannabis user, and when he was encouraged to decrease his use, his paranoia and hallucinations disappeared and his anxiety abated. But his memory and concentration problems remained, leading the doctors to suspect that these may be permanent disabilities.

    When he was admitted to a specialist brain injury unit and put on anti-psychotic medication, he did start to show some improvement. "Unfortunately, he discharged himself before we were able to complete the assessment," says Dr Kouimtsidis. "We continued to support him. But he started to use cannabis again and he dropped out. We tried to re-engage him but we lost him about a year ago."

    The Guardian made several attempts to find the man without success.

    Effects of ecstasy

    MDMA is one the most intensely studied recreational drugs in history. But despite thousands of research papers and studies, scientific evidence on the side-effects remains inconclusive.

    Death by overdose

    Undoubtedly, large amounts of ecstasy can lead to over-heating which in turn, in rare cases, can trigger fatal heat stroke. Many factors contribute: number and strength of pills taken, environment, alcohol-consumption, body weight - but women seem more at risk. The bulk of ecstasy-related deaths around the world have been young women.

    Water-poisoning

    Panicking users, fearing they are overdosing, drink too much water and provoke hyponaetraemia (water-poisoning). Leah Betts died after drinking 14 pints in just 90 minutes. The recommended amount of water to drink per hour is one pint.

    Toxic reactions

    Much of the reports of toxic reactions are muddled with overdose or water-poisoning deaths. There is no clear evidence that some people suffer allergic reactions to ecstasy. However, around 10% of Western users do lack a key liver enzyme CYP2D6 needed to break down MDMA. This may make them more sensitive to the effects and more prone to accidental overdose.

    Depression

    Many weekend users report a mid-week mood dip. This is suspected to be related MDMA's effect on serotonin, but hard evidence is lacking. In heavy users, dips can turn to crashes and depression. However studies suggest this effect reverses after a 2-3 month abstinence.

    Positive effects

    Users still claim "long lasting improvements in self-awareness, self-esteem, openness and insight into personal problems", reports the study from the University Of Louisiana. In the US, research continues into the use of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy to treat Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
    dead, yet alive.
  • Garrick
    DUDERZ get a life!!!
    • Jun 2004
    • 6764

    #2
    Re: 40,000 Pills

    yaeh, i saw that earlier. i like how they throw in the side comment about marijuana.... duh! of course marijuana affects the memory. i think they figured that out about 200 years ago.

    seriously though... how can you eat that much ecstacy? 24 hours of being lit up for four years. that is nuts.
    Should I fuck you at that not until the ass, inject then tremendously hard bumschen and to the termination in the eyes yes?

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    • fumanchu182
      Angantyr The Ruthless
      • Jun 2004
      • 962

      #3
      Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

      Users still claim "long lasting improvements in self-awareness, self-esteem, openness and insight into personal problems", reports the study from the University Of Louisiana. In the US, research continues into the use of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy to treat Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

      I personally am aware of this, I used to be a closet case Marilyn Manson fan and all depressed about life. After a year of taking this drug every weekend I now have no self-esteem issues, am very open to new ideas and concepts, enjoy speaking about my issues with friends now, and have an all over better warming personality.

      Don't flame me for being an ex-ehead but I do pity those that use it in excess to escape from reality.

      I see a whole recreation vs. abuse conversation unfolding, discuss.

      (Good read ASDF)
      The sailors of the United States Navy are among the most disciplined, devoted, and well-trained fighting men the world has ever known. They drink gasoline and piss fire, The spit bullets and shit bombs, and will swim across the ocean with a knife in their teeth just for the chance to carve up those that threaten their homeland.

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      • asdf_admin
        i use to be important
        • Jun 2004
        • 12798

        #4
        Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

        i have no fucking clue. all can say is brain damage. i do not care what science people have to say. that shit is a rush gotta fuck you up somehow.

        i found this interesting ...

        Water-poisoning
        Panicking users, fearing they are overdosing, drink too much water and provoke hyponaetraemia (water-poisoning). Leah Betts died after drinking 14 pints in just 90 minutes. The recommended amount of water to drink per hour is one pint.
        ok my pee-pee would just come out ... sorry. fucking nuts.
        dead, yet alive.

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        • asdf_admin
          i use to be important
          • Jun 2004
          • 12798

          #5
          Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

          I see a whole recreation vs. abuse conversation unfolding, discuss.
          people will be people. you will never stop that. i think the key here is moderation and do not destroy your life. i have known so many people in my life that get fucked up and work fine. i remember in Trig one of best friends was on a head full acid and passed his midterm with not a single mistake. and yes he was way fucked up.

          some people are like that. i could not live a life like that. i enjoy my fun, but i want a mind and body to live in. i also do not need drugs to have fun. i find waking up in the morning rewarding enough.
          dead, yet alive.

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          • gjg21
            Gold Gabber
            • Jul 2004
            • 725

            #6
            Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

            this the guy?

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            • asdf_admin
              i use to be important
              • Jun 2004
              • 12798

              #7
              Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

              ^^^ yeah but with headphones.
              dead, yet alive.

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              • In-SighT
                Addiction started
                • Jun 2004
                • 430

                #8
                Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

                40,000 pills!!!

                Suddenly I don't feel as bad for my raving days in the past.

                How the hell could you afford that many pills? I bet his supplier never has to slang again.
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                • day_for_night
                  Are you Kidding me??
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 4127

                  #9
                  Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

                  thats called darwanism in action. fuckin' moron.

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                  • dante_k
                    Addiction started
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 280

                    #10
                    Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

                    That Dude never slept!

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                    • Jibgolly
                      Vortexuralizor
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 20773

                      #11
                      Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

                      sleep is for people who dont want to stay awake. Pfft

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                      • bremspg
                        Addiction started
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 363

                        #12
                        Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

                        Originally posted by asdf_admin
                        i have no fucking clue. all can say is brain damage. i do not care what science people have to say. that shit is a rush gotta fuck you up somehow.

                        i found this interesting ...

                        Water-poisoning


                        fucking nuts.
                        i agree with ya, it fucks you up
                        thats a lot of water... crazy shit

                        never heard anything like this before... 40000 pills???? damn
                        What we think, we become.

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                        • FM
                          Wooooooo!
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 5361

                          #13
                          Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

                          Originally posted by dante_k
                          That Dude never slept!
                          ehh he'll sleep when he's dead...
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                          • Morgan
                            Platinum Poster
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 2234

                            #14
                            Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

                            Sorry, i forget what we were talking about.....


                            Anything from chips to coke is dangerous if not taken in moderation, that is basic common sense.
                            "Pain is only weakness leaving the body."

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                            • LoUiS
                              Platinum Poster
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 1078

                              #15
                              Re: 40,000 Pills (mullered maximus)

                              Pretty fucked up situation!
                              Don't take life too Seriously!!!

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