Bush planning nuclear strikes on Iran's nucleur sites?

[superdave]

Re: Bush planning nuclear strikes on Iran's nucleur sites?

Didn't Bush call this wild speculation? I doubt its wild speculation because I heard Rumsfeld speak about how the Defense Department works on war strategies for many countries and situations. I'm sure there are DOD guys have worked out every situation imaginable already.

[davetlv]

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Support another revolution

Yeah 'cos the last won worked really well didnt man!

None of you fret, the IAF is on it, Mossad is on the ground, and targets being sought.

While you all continue to pontificate and argue through the SC we'll do what we did with Iraq in the 80's.

[FM]

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hmmm, nuclear weapons destroying other nuclear weapons...shit that'd be a hell of an explosion...

[sono]

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Simple: big bomb craters cause less shit than fundamentalist wankers with powertoys that go "boom"

Kapish?

Hell, maybe those craters will eventually fill up with water providing the ideal setting for a theme park or a new spot for Club Med to open shop...

I didn't know G. Bush hangs around MS

[Yao]

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Yeah 'cos the last won worked really well didnt man!

None of you fret, the IAF is on it, Mossad is on the ground, and targets being sought.

While you all continue to pontificate and argue through the SC we'll do what we did with Iraq in the 80's.

lol, be my guest...

How can I forget about the last one, hehee...it was in the year I was born.

[Xessex]

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What can i say it's all a setup. It all depends on the Russians in this matter if the US is gonna attack Iran eventually.

Personally i think Iran is nowadays a playball of or forming a coalition with the Russians. Ever since the Russians came into play Iran has become more vicious with it's reactions. Since then that famous statement about Israel is made and the holocaust has been questioned.

So what i think is happening down here is this. The US is seeking reasons to invade Iran to get more control on the oil market to have more influence on nations as China in the near future. On the other hand the Russians are silently getting more aware of their actual potential. To not loose to much influence on what happens worldwide during these times of economical changes they have found in Iran a perfect base to build up their power again. And they have had bands with the country before so why not help them and who knows we might be able to stop the US in Iraq.

What will happen in the next few months or maybe even years is that it will depend on how eager Russia is to stay in control there, quite close to thier homecountry. And it also depends on the actual military power of the Russians.

I strongly hope the Russians do pressure the US quite much and european countries don't look too much at those 'anti-israelian' statements. Cause quite frankly who gives a rat ass if somebody in Iran shouts that Israel should be whiped of the chart. I don't know folks but lately in Italy a minister has said grewsome things about the Dutch too. But well that's Italy so we spend a day or maybe two days on that statement, Berlusconi apoligies and it's back to normal again. But if it's something that Iran says it's like the worst thinkable. While quite probably he said it to one hand get more moral support in his homecountry and on the other hand just to piss people off (knowing the Russians are on his side anyways). In Italy that minister has made the statements about the Dutch for similar reasons.

Personally i hope the international community is able to not react and stop the US for one time. Cause have they ever thought of how terrible the world could become if the US is gonna take over every interesing oil-exporting country in the middle east. The US already has most of Europe in its grip and it will only become more and more. And do you want your local European policy to be more and more dominated by the wishes of the Americans in the near future. Not too mention how deceitful the Bush administration is. Do you want the world to be dominated by somebody who obviously lies and lies all the time AND pushes through very questionable laws as the 'Patriot Act'.

I tell ya in a world dominated by Bush and his administration you'll be fucked in the arse. The Patriot Act makes it almost possible to do whatever they want with your personal information. It gives so much power to intelligence services and the police...no personal data is safe anymore. Everything is logged and if they find something they could just slightly use against you your role is over in that oh-so free democratic world we live in. The Patriot Act is like 21st century gestapo. And the most worrysome thing is that what the Bush administration does is been taken over by European countries. Some have seen that creating fear (whether it exist or not) always helps to push through rules and laws. In todays Holland small parts of the intentions of the Patriot Act have been taken over already and been approved in the Parliament.

So question yourself....

Do you wanna live in a world with more American power, where it could be possible in the next era's that there is coming more and more this show-democracy.....

or do you wanna live in a current world where some assholes who will probably never do anything against you nor your country and who just might happen to create a nuclear bomb (like they dont have thousands of other bombs that might kill hundreds of thousands people as well)

I know what i vote. I give the benefit of the doubt to Iran and like to see the worlds biggest forces more in Balance than to have one absolute dominating force.

[thesightless]

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exactly, one big swoop would allow us to not worry about ""extremeism"" and also would give the world enough reason to force the US to find a working government that isnt democrat vs republican. bush would go down, there isnt a single democrat i can find that would be decent in office, so we would look elsewhere.

i.e. if you have a insect problem with a protected species, you have someone you dislike just destroy the nest and queen and they get in trouble for it. 2 birds.1 stone.

[thesightless]

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and my daily award to KINKY for using the word kapish.

[KinKyJ]

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and my daily award to KINKY for using the word kapish.

Fuck Saen, what drugs are you on lately? Yesterday you supported illegal spics in a post, today you're giving me an award... Next thing you know you'll be chanting "Allah Akbar" five times a day...

GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER!!!

[thesightless]

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thesightless- fiscally conservative, socially liberal self admitted propogandist, speaking in the harshest means possibile on a daily basis.

[KinKyJ]

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Well Xess, I think you really hit the spot with that post. Couldn't agree more...

The US (read: the Bush admin) is indeed seeking ways to gain influence or better yet: achieve cultural, political and economical world domination. Not only their actions in the Middle East point that out, also the fact that Bush seizes every opportunity to prevent the EU to develope into a real political power is an illustration of that.

During the Cold War, the European block was an important buffer against the communists. Tactical weapons were installed all over Europe and we were given chocolats and presents in order to tag along with it. I'm not saying this was wrong, but when the Wall dropped and the USSR collapsed, the presents and chocolats were replaced by a policy to prevent the EU taking the place of the former USSR as world power. It's only under the Bush admin and especially the period just before the invasion of Iraq that this became blatantly clear.

So why does Bush shows such a Middle East obsession?

Within this and let's say 30 to 50 years it's very plausible that we're going to have another World War. This time not because of territory or religion or whatever, but because of oil shortages. We know now for how long more or less we can keep on pumping oil, so it's no surprise that the US tries to gain control over the Middle East. If you know that Japan attacked Pearl Harbor because their oil supplies were cut off, you can only start to imagine what is going to happen when oil becomes scarce and the US controls the majority of the reserves... Oil (and energy as a whole) will become a powerfull weapon. Not of Mass Destruction, but of Mass Domination. We've already had an example of that when Russia started threaten to shut down the gas supply to the Ukraine...

Although I'm not per se anti-American (I'm just anti-Bush), I think as far as the short term in concerned, the political balance should be restored. The EU should succeed in becoming a political, economical and military super power next to the US. If we don't, it won't be long before the Muslim countries start organising themselves to form a unified block against the "American agressor". I don't think any of us want the latter...

[KinKyJ]

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thesightless- fiscally conservative, socially liberal self admitted propogandist, speaking in the harshest means possibile on a daily basis.

Now there's a nice text to put on your tombstone

[superdave]

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Here's the facts -- Iran is enriching uranium and plans to expand the nuclear program(see today's news). The Iranian President recently said that he would like to wipe out Israel.

From those facts, you Bush haters have turned that around to say Bush wants to dominate the Middle East. Those are crazy conspiracy theories that the liberal media wouldn't even touch. They're too busy covering racism and immigration btw.

Put down the pipe or bottle and get with reality.

[thesightless]

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superdave, you are 100% correct, HOWEVER we cant just nuke a ppl because thier leader is a fucking nutbag. and after Iraq, the world wont look at the USA like we shuold be looked at. i.e. even if we try to help, or simply stop the programme, we look worse, and iran will continue just as saddam did, but now no one will grow the balls to act b/c the retard in DC got so over agressive we look terrible. listen in a perfect world, they wouldnt even taunt it, and if they did all of the planet would be for immedietly destroying thier facilities, but now we will wait for isreal or a european nation to be on the red line with iran before anyone stops thier weapons programm.

[Xessex]

Re: Bush planning nuclear strikes on Iran's nucleur sites?

Here's the facts -- Iran is enriching uranium and plans to expand the nuclear program(see today's news). The Iranian President recently said that he would like to wipe out Israel.

From those facts, you Bush haters have turned that around to say Bush wants to dominate the Middle East. Those are crazy conspiracy theories that the liberal media wouldn't even touch. They're too busy covering racism and immigration btw.

Put down the pipe or bottle and get with reality.

Hello!!! just like the sightless says...he's just a nutbag. Do you really think by any chance Iran wants to attack Israel. What the heck could they gain with that. And if they do attack Israel within no time Teheran would be another Hiroshima.

Btw have you read this part of what i wrote: "don't look too much at those 'anti-israelian' statements. Cause quite frankly who gives a rat ass if somebody in Iran shouts that Israel should be whiped of the chart. I don't know folks but lately in Italy a minister has said grewsome things about the Dutch too. But well that's Italy so we spend a day or maybe two days on that statement, Berlusconi apoligies and it's back to normal again. But if it's something that Iran says it's like the worst thinkable. While quite probably he said it to one hand get more moral support in his homecountry and on the other hand just to piss people off (knowing the Russians are on his side anyways). In Italy that minister has made the statements about the Dutch for similar reasons."

So you would honestly want to take Iran down because one nutcase shouts something populair to get more support in his homecountry and just to piss people off (like millions do on the internet). That statement is just purely political.

Besides what is there to fear anyway with the development of a possible nuclear bomb. Like i said you can kill thousands of people to with all the other bombs they already have. And the 'Cold War' has proven that in 30 years time no president had the guts to use nuclear weapons (although it has gotten close a few times). Well we ain't anywhere near that situation with a quite small country as Iran.

And one more thing: have you ever thought about the nuclear power of Israel. Israel wasn't allowed just as Iran to enrich uranium cause of that non-proliferation act (do i spell that right). But Israel has set up nuclear facilities (in secrecy) anyway and of course not only to supply the country with electricity. The guy who filmed in that facility and sold the images to a british newspaper has been locked away....

I quote: "Mordechai Vanunu worked as a nuclear technician at Dimona, Israel's secret nuclear installation from 1976 to 1985. He worked there at a time when Israel was insisting it would not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons to the Middle East. What Vanunu discovered is that Israel had secretly developed an extensive nuclear program, hiding its existence from the Israeli people and parliament, and the world. Vanunu leaked information and photos of Israel's nuclear weapons program to the Sunday Times in London. He was subsequently kidnapped by Israeli spy agency Mossad in Italy and then jailed. He would go on to spend 18 years behind bars including 11 in solitary confinement."


But hey who cares that Israel did that in the past. Israel was/is a small brother of the USA so why bother. Isn't that a bit measuring with two measures.



What i'm all saying with this Superdave...do your homework first before you listen to some stupid blown-up statements by a nutcase. Don't you see that your government wants you to believe that its very very bad country that Iran which (and that will be lighted out more in the near future) supports possible terrorist. Havent your governemnt told the exact same about Iraq. Well still to this day nobody has proved that Iraq (or some extremist over there) ever formed a threat to the US. And in Iraq there have never been found any chemical weapons. So superdave try to reflect on your deceitful government first before saying something else