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  • skahound
    Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
    • Jun 2004
    • 11411

    #16
    Re: just when i was thinking american society had recovered some dignity

    Originally posted by Jenks
    Actually, it costs tax payers more money to sentence someone to death than life in prison. Once you're sentenced to death, there is an automatic appeal process which takes a long time, and a lot of money, plus keeping them in prison. The cost per inmate for a lifer is less.
    +10

    Just a couple of articles and the link where they can be found follows:

    Kansas Study Concludes Death Penalty is Costly Policy
    In its review of death penalty expenses, the State of Kansas concluded that capital cases are 70% more expensive than comparable non-death penalty cases. The study counted death penalty case costs through to execution and found that the median death penalty case costs $1.26 million. Non-death penalty cases were counted through to the end of incarceration and were found to have a median cost of $740,000. For death penalty cases, the pre-trial and trial level expenses were the most expensive part, 49% of the total cost. The costs of appeals were 29% of the total expense, and the incarceration and execution costs accounted for the remaining 22%. In comparison to non-death penalty cases, the following findings were revealed:

    The investigation costs for death-sentence cases were about 3 times greater than for non-death cases.
    The trial costs for death cases were about 16 times greater than for non-death cases ($508,000 for death case; $32,000 for non-death case).
    The appeal costs for death cases were 21 times greater.
    The costs of carrying out (i.e. incarceration and/or execution) a death sentence were about half the costs of carrying out a non-death sentence in a comparable case.
    Trials involving a death sentence averaged 34 days, including jury selection; non-death trials averaged about 9 days.
    Florida spends millions extra per year on death penalty
    Florida would save $51 million each year by punishing all first-degree murderers with life in prison without parole, according to estimates by the Palm Beach Post. Based on the 44 executions Florida has carried out since 1976, that amounts to an approximate cost of $24 million for each execution. This finding takes into account the relatively few inmates who are actually executed, as well as the time and effort expended on capital defendants who are tried but convicted of a lesser murder charge, and those whose deathe sentences are overturned on appeal. (Palm Beach Post, January 4, 2000)
    A New Jersey Policy Perspectives report concluded that the state's death penalty has cost taxpayers $253 million since 1983, a figure that is over and above the costs that would have been incurred had the state utilized a sentence of life without parole instead of death. The study examined the costs of death penalty cases to prosecutor offices, public defender offices, courts, and correctional facilities. The report's authors said that the cost estimate is "very conservative" because other significant costs uniquely associated with the death penalty were not available. "From a strictly financial perspective, it is hard to reach a conclusion other than this: New Jersey taxpayers over the last 23 years have paid more than a quarter billion dollars on a capital punishment system that has executed no one," the report concluded. Since 1982, there have been 197 capital trials in New Jersey and 60 death sentences, of which 50 were reversed. There have been no executions, and 10 men are housed on the state's death row. Michael Murphy, former Morris County prosecutor, remarked: "If you were to ask me how $11 million a year could best protect the people of New Jersey, I would tell you by giving the law enforcement community more resources. I'm not interested in hypotheticals or abstractions, I want the tools for law enforcement to do their job, and $11 million can buy a lot of tools." (See Newsday, Nov. 21, 2005; also Press Release, New Jerseyans for Alternatives to the Death Penalty, Nov. 21, 2005). Read the Executive Summary. Read the full report. Read the NJADP Press Release.
    The Death Penalty Information Center (DPI) is a national non-profit organization whose mission is to serve the media, policymakers, and the general public…
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    • Morgan
      Platinum Poster
      • Jun 2004
      • 2234

      #17
      Re: just when i was thinking american society had recovered some dignity

      America has no dignity whilst Guamtanemo bay is still operating.

      Moussaoui, will serve his sentence in solitary confinement in a maximum security jail in Colorado. Supermax i believe is the name. Do you really think he would be allowed into the general fedral prison population?


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      • Kobe
        I wish I had an interesting User title
        • Jun 2004
        • 2589

        #18
        Re: just when i was thinking american society had recovered some dignity

        that wouldn't last very long
        Beats are my crack.

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        • unkownartist
          Banned
          • Nov 2005
          • 4146

          #19
          Re: just when i was thinking american society had recovered some dignity

          who what where and when??? is this that guy that was involved in the 9/11 thing?

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          • DJJEFFJONES
            Platinum Poster
            • Nov 2005
            • 2110

            #20
            Re: just when i was thinking american society had recovered some dignity

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            • KinKyJ
              Platinum Poser
              • Jun 2004
              • 13438

              #21
              Re: just when i was thinking american society had recovered some dignity

              Originally posted by red1
              who what where and when??? is this that guy that was involved in the 9/11 thing?
              I wasn't gonna flame you for like what? A month. Hokey then: the guy was the one who had to crash a boeing into the White House on 9/11.

              @ all posting that info about cost and such of the DP (like Ska): BIG THANX GUYS! Erzina is writing a paper on the DP and this is good stuff.

              MS rocks

              By the way, in this case the DP isn't the worst punishment you can give this guy. Why spoil are your fun in like 5 mins while seeing him turn into Kentucky Friend Terrorist while you can have two generations gloat at him while he rots away in a cell, knowing this shit will happen over and over again. Yesterday was the same as today and tomorrow doesn't look any better 'till you die of old age? If I was in his place, I'd beg for a ride on the chair...

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              • unkownartist
                Banned
                • Nov 2005
                • 4146

                #22
                Re: just when i was thinking american society had recovered some dignity

                sorry, my daily american knoledge is sadly lacking possibly due to the fact that i,m over in the uk might be a reason for that lol... i miss the news all the time so i,m not exactly up to date on world affairs...anyway if i were the judge i would hang him from his feet indefinately but keep him alive for aslong as i could, seems like a suitable punishment for the crime, you know whats going to happen in the future with this guy then, he's going to be used as a political deal tool just like the bombers of pan am @ locerbie over here, i think thats whats going to happen with laden when the price of his head gets to a certain price someone will use him as a political deal for power like the libians

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                • thesightless
                  Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 13567

                  #23
                  Re: just when i was thinking american society had recovered some dignity

                  1. you can get a .22 caliber bullet for 45 cents.
                  2. his asshole is in for some excercise.
                  3. if you deny someone the basic right to live, why are you given that right.
                  5. moralistic idiots piss me off sometimes. i want to kill thier families then write letters to them detailing my workout and eating regeim as well as telling them my favorite new tv shows that will be on while they visit thier families graves.
                  your life is an occasion, rise to it.

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                  • Hg_addict
                    Addiction started
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 307

                    #24
                    Re: just when i was thinking american society had recovered some dignity

                    The Judge couldnt have put it better...

                    "You came here to be a martyr and die in a great big bang of glory, but to paraphrase the poet T.S. Eliot, instead you will die with a whimper," U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema said, borrowing a line from Eliot's "The Hollow Men."

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                    • unkownartist
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 4146

                      #25
                      Re: just when i was thinking american society had recovered some dignity

                      to be honest i think that a crime as sick as that should carry some sort of equally sick punishment.....i dont think just locking him up is a justified/equal punishment

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                      • Kobe
                        I wish I had an interesting User title
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 2589

                        #26
                        Re: just when i was thinking american society had recovered some dignity

                        Originally posted by Hg_addict
                        The Judge couldnt have put it better...

                        "You came here to be a martyr and die in a great big bang of glory, but to paraphrase the poet T.S. Eliot, instead you will die with a whimper," U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema said, borrowing a line from Eliot's "The Hollow Men."

                        http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/04/mo...ict/index.html
                        very nice, rotting in a hole for the next 65 years sounds perfect
                        Beats are my crack.

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